HCG dilemma

[Anybody]

This is killing me trying to figure out HCG. Poster #1 has 5 miles of green karma with 12 million posts and says to run HCG as PCT. Poster #2 has 12 rows of karma and 14 million posts and says HCG is useless as PCT and to run it starting your second week in-cycle. Poster #3 is the lord Jesus Christ and says to use it for a couple weeks mid-cycle in longer cycles and that you probably dont need it for shorter ones. I'm sure usage differs depending on your cycle and history, but the advice I've run into conflicts even on basic points. I've checked out other websites and the advice is just as scattered.

The cycle I'm thinking about is something like a 10-weeker with 300mg/week deca, 400mg/week test e. I've had to change my mind about how to use HCG so many times that i don't even have a clue anymore how i should go about incorporating it into this cycle, but I'm sure that I want it to be there. Can anyone help clear some of the fog about the best ways to use HCG for a cycle like this?

 

[taoiron]

What’s up bro…
There are a bunch of theories on this matter. I will tell you what I have experienced.

The first time I used HCG was during a 500mg Test E pw cycle. I ran 500mg of HCG every 5 days. It did keep the boys alive and I can’t say I really ever felt shut down.

My second cycle was 500mg Test E 1-5 pw and wk 6-12 I bumped to 750. I also added Dbol wk 1-4 @ 30-40mg per day. I started out with the 500mg of HCG e5d. I read something about using less… something like 200-300mg every 7-10 days so I gave that a shot. I really don’t have a scientific explanation for you but I would just say I “felt better” at the lower dose.
For PCT I ran HCG week 1-2 then Clomid and Nolva to finish it out!

I think for my next cycle I am going to wait and bring HCG in, maybe between week 3-5 hitting 2-300mg once a week until the end of my cycle.

Something to consider…. But just my $0.02

Taoiron

 

[JohnnyWest]

Okay, here is some commom sense advice and explanation you can draw your own opinions from.

HCG is Human Chroniogonadatropic Hormone (excuse spelling) and is basicly the same as LH. LH (Leutinizing Homone) is secreted from the pituitary gland and signals the testes to release testosterone. What happens is you are introducing foreign LH into your blood stream causing an unintended relaease of test, therefore, even further inhibiting your natural test production. Basicly surpressing you natural LH even more.

So this all sounds great, you have a hormone that can keep the guys from shutting down, but looks can be decieving. If you prolong and/or take too high of a dosage, you can PERMANENTLY desensitize the testes resulting in a permanently inadequate LH production, meaning LOWER test levels!

Now during PCT the idea is to get your natural poduction up and running again, therefore, artificially stimulating the testes would only result in prolonging the recovery process. That is whay it is best to take HCG for to 2 to 3 weeks mid cycle or at the end of your cycle depending its length.

The best advice i can give you is that you should inject 5000 iu's on week 8 and 9 or inject 6000iu's split up into 6 evenly distributed time intervals for 2 weeks (8 and 9)
Good Luck!


PS I dont have "12 rows of karma and 14 million posts"

 

[bluerecon]

Bro. I would go with Toairon with your question. Smaller amount tend to do a better job, then taking a larger dose. I would suggest using HCG around the 3 to 4 week into a cycle. You will keep more gains by keeping the boys active. The less your system shuts down the better off you are.

 

[bluerecon]

Bro. I would go with Taoiron with your question. Smaller amount tend to do a better job, then taking a larger dose. I would suggest using HCG around the 3 to 4 week into a cycle. You will keep more gains by keeping the boys active. The less your system shuts down the better off you are.

 

[PBR]

i concur blue... HCG can on-set gyno faster than a speeding bullet, and also cause the Mr. Potatohead- effect quite rapidly.