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Hardcore4Evr is back! Help critique please!

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Hardcore4Evr

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Whats up guys. Im sure a few of you all remember me from way back when, and then i got into a little relationship troubles, drugs, well you name it i was in it.

Now everything is great. Been off the drugs, kicked the girl to the "FINAL" curb, and life couldnt be better. Well, until i start taking the sauce again.

If you could help and let me know what you think, i would appreciate it.

Week 1-5 Dbol @ 25-35mg day
Week 1-10 Ttokkyo EQ @ 400mg per week
Week 1-11 Ttokkyo Cypionate @ 600mg per week
Week 6-11 Winny Zambons @ 50mg per day

Arimidex @ .50mg every other day through entire cycle

Clomid, HCG of course at end.

Thanks and i appreciate any input you have. This is really a kick cycle to get some weight back on but still stay as lean as possible. Dbol will definitly blow me up, but i need that jump start. Thanks again, and glad to be back!!! :)
 
Week 1-6 Dbol @ 25-35mg day
Week 1-10 Ttokkyo EQ @ 400mg per week
Week 1-10 Ttokkyo Cypionate @ 600mg per week
Week 7-12 Winny Zambons @ 50mg per day
Week 4-5 500IU HCG ED
Week 8-10 500IU HCG ED
Week 13 Clomid

You can start clomid sooner this way.
 
Huck, its good to be back! Glad to see you! Thanks for the ALA tip, im definitly getting a good bit of that. As far as multivitamins, ect, i have that down. Thanks again man.

And nimrod, thanks for the tip on the HCG, i have really never understood when i should actually start taking it. I will move the cycle around like you said. Makes a little more sense in doing it the way you described. I appreciate your reply.
 
Nimrod, you think this would definitly be the best way to do this? Im not second guessing you im just trying to get this all precise. Im trying to remember how the clomid therapy works at the end, but im sure i can find it in a post in the archives. Something like, 300mg first day......i know how to calculate the last shot, so for prop it would be like day 10 or so after my last shot i believe. Hell ill just go look. HA!
 
wassup hardcore,
you got a nice cycle going there bro. you'll gain plenty. Nimrod's is a small step up from yours, in that his minimizes the dead time between the end of your cycle and clomid therapy. HCG is also not a bad idea. never integrated it in any of my cycles before, but i hear it's a great addition. It's all small potatos really...goodluck with whatever you choose to go with.

and welcome back!
 
Clomid:
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2-11: 100mg
Day 12-21: 50mg
Day 22: Done

The half-lives of Eq and Cyp make the start of clomid therapy useless until atleast 2 weeks after your last shot of each. Since winny exits quickly you can extend it and start clomid immediatly afterwards, thus having no down time. Good luck.
 
Check your mail lHardcore4evr, long lost friend! :)

barnes3
 
Ha, i appreciate the replys guys. So Nimrod, i could actually extend taking winny even after im done with cypionate & EQ? Or would that not be a good idea? I have done winny for longer periods, well say, 8-10 weeks at a time, but have heard its better to keep it short and sweet. Maybe ill run it a couple of weeks longer after test & EQ, and then immediately start clomid therapy. That sounds like a plan.

Whats up Barnes!!! Im checkin my mail guy!
:)
 
Thanks Elite. Yeah i think this is the way i will do it.

ONE THING::::

Would you think taking Arimidex at .50mg every day would be better then taking it .50mg every other day? The money is not an issue, it would be the injectable form for "research only". I know that it would definitely keep some water off while i was taking the dbol, but im thinking that it may help me fight off any signs of gyno if i was to take it every day instead of EOD. What do you think? Anyone ?
 
Hardcore4Evr said:
Thanks Elite. Yeah i think this is the way i will do it.

ONE THING::::

Would you think taking Arimidex at .50mg every day would be better then taking it .50mg every other day? The money is not an issue, it would be the injectable form for "research only". I know that it would definitely keep some water off while i was taking the dbol, but im thinking that it may help me fight off any signs of gyno if i was to take it every day instead of EOD. What do you think? Anyone ?
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Taking it EOD is sufficient for prevent gyno completely, but ED would be better for minimizing bloat. It will give you more steady blood levels.
 
Hardcore4Evr said:
Thanks Elite. Yeah i think this is the way i will do it.

ONE THING::::

Would you think taking Arimidex at .50mg every day would be better then taking it .50mg every other day? The money is not an issue, it would be the injectable form for "research only". I know that it would definitely keep some water off while i was taking the dbol, but im thinking that it may help me fight off any signs of gyno if i was to take it every day instead of EOD. What do you think? Anyone ?
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i believe the half-life of arimidex is similair to that of prop, so you can do EOD without anything to worry about.
 
hey bro glad to see you got off the speed and are ready to hit it again, first I think you should add some fina and sostenon to this cycle, and fuck the ttokkyo shit, go with tornell enanthate and dk ultragan, ttokkyo shit aint that good, the dk and tornell are better, at my gym all the juicers tell me ttokkyo is trash, hey I took the deca and sostenon by them, and got better results with tornell shit or another brand, hey just add fina some sostenon and you will be great, plus the propionate in the sos will work well with the winstrol at the first of the cyle for better results.

Yeah looking back I would run at the first of the cyle winstrol sostenon and dbol, and the end of the cycle I would run sostenon, deca, eq and fina and test cyp or test enanthate.
 
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CN1 said:
go with tornell enanthate and dk ultragan, ttokkyo shit aint that good, the dk and tornell are better, at my gym all the juicers tell me ttokkyo is trash, hey I took the deca and sostenon by them, and got better results with tornell shit or another brand,
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tornell used to be great shit, but they don't exist anymore. what you had was most likely counterfieted, unless it has been sitting on your shelf for years.
 
Yes, its time to start getting confused, which is exactly why i posted this message. So.......you think ttokkyo isnt a good product while i should take sust instead? That is a consideration, seeing how i have sust on the way. I will look into my options and broaden my selections a little more. Sust was always a possibility, but if i decide on that & not Cypionate, i will probably do 750mg per week of sust, and maybe keep the ttokkyo eq.

BUT>.>>>>>>>..........I could substitute in some Brovel 200mg Deca, and take 400mg per week, or maybe some of the ttokkyo Deca. I am not too sure what i want to do. I have taken eq in almost all three of the cycles i have done, so maybe a small amount of deca would do me right. What do you all think?
 
Audio 8 what are you talking about, tornell is a strong product on the market right now, they are currently making t200, sostenon, and deca, they make the sostenon in 10 and 5 ml's, and the deca and test in 10ml, the granero over in mexico raves over it and says the sostenon is one of its best sellers, I currently weigh 250 and tell me that benching 225 for 50 reps is from using fake tornell, I dont think so!
 
Nimrod25 said:
Week 1-6 Dbol @ 25-35mg day
Week 1-10 Ttokkyo EQ @ 400mg per week
Week 1-10 Ttokkyo Cypionate @ 600mg per week
Week 7-12 Winny Zambons @ 50mg per day
Week 4-5 500IU HCG ED
Week 8-10 500IU HCG ED
Week 13 Clomid

You can start clomid sooner this way.
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couldnt have said it better myself..
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CN1 said:
Audio 8 what are you talking about, tornell is a strong product on the market right now, they are currently making t200, sostenon, and deca, they make the sostenon in 10 and 5 ml's, and the deca and test in 10ml, the granero over in mexico raves over it and says the sostenon is one of its best sellers, I currently weigh 250 and tell me that benching 225 for 50 reps is from using fake tornell, I dont think so!
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oh my bad my friend. I was thinking of steris cyp, not tornel. Got the two mixed up. Yeah, tornel is good cheap shit...better than brovel too.

sorry for the mix up
 
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