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Halo sublingual tabs
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herdus33 said:
someone reads the rules?? k to you bro
herdus33 said:
sub-l just means it absorbs much faster at the cost of some of the dose lost in the process.
herdus33 said:
not in any real sense. the half life is somewhere b/w 7-10 hours so a bit faster absortion and avoiding the first pass through the liver may shorten it---but the net half life in your bloodstream should be virtually the same.
JLowe02 said:
Because you don't understand that the toxicity is overstated, and a low dose is sufficient and therefore is fine to run for short periods. Why do people think halo is the equivalent of injesting hydrochlroic acid? It's not that bad. 40mg dbol ED is just as bad or worse.
dabuffguy said:
I dont pretend to have a vast resevoir of knowledge on halo, but please point me towards some reference that scientifically proves halo hepatoxicity is overrated. Everytime ive checked its been pretty damn toxic. btw, i prolly wouldn't run 40 mgs dbol either. at least not for long.
dabuffguy said:
my only issue with halo is i never got lean enough in the last 10 years that it would make a difference
and i am a tax lawyer--so bringing out my agressive side would mean i would write in a red pen instead of blue..grrrrrrrr
JLowe02 said:
MG for MG halo is more toxic, and not by much Because it has the same 17aa alteration as all the others do without addition, BUT when 20mg is sufficient the overall toxicity is actually less than others. People that take 100mg anadrol a day are doing way more damage than halo. It's not poison like people make you think. It is extremely androgenic though, which may lead to the belief. Any site I can think of that will tell you it's extremely toxic is overstating it. And, no I don't have any link to fluxymesterone's toxicity rating compared to other drugs. I'm not a halo expert either.
herdus33
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dabuffguy said:
There has to be truth to this....by the way, I'm takin livercure throughout the entire cycle just be safe. I will be running var 100mgs for 12wks and throwing in two 4 wk cycles of Halo, plus injectables of course. The point being that the livercure should keep me safe since orals will be used for a long period.
herdus33 said:
Whoa nelly!
Hold on a second. you plan to run 12 weeks with 2 different orals? 100 mg var is overkill with injectables. 60mg is plenty!
No, bad idea. Run one oral at a time. that's it, unless you do an all oral, then var stacked with anything else is fine. Halo and var is an unusual combo, and since var is primarily anabolic and halo is strictly androgenic, I can see this being a good idea, but not while running orals 12 weeks straight even with liver care.
anavar is also 17aa and is toxic just like the others. Some say mildly toxic, I say it's just a toxic as any other 17aa. Still, toxicity being overhyped.
I would do this. Run halo 4 weeks 20-30mg at the beginning to get your strength up with your injectables. Take 2 weeks off and do var 60mg for 6 weeks, a 12 week total. I assume you will run 500mg or so test?
herdus33
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dabuffguy said:
Yes 12 wks of var. I'm not the only one who has run an oral this long and i'm sure its not the first time someone has run two orals at once. But has for the halo, I'm doin 4 wks at the begining and 4 wks at the end. The injectables are EQ and Test E.
I've ran var before at 50mgs and didnt care for it much. I know 100mgs sounds like overkill but i'm gonna do it and if I still dont care for it then I'll be done with it forever.
herdus33 said:
12 weeks for an oral is fine IMO, if you run 1, and have your blood work done and check your liver values. Stacking two for that distance really is stressing the liver some. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of old school guys ran dbol for 4 months plus, but that doesn't you should.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that you aren't going to see and sort of phenomenal improvement by taking them for an extended period over keeping them short if you are already running test and EQ. So, the extra seems unnecessary. Overall, what you originally planned isn't horrible, maybe too much stuff though. My philosophy is use as little as possible while still getting big results.
herdus33
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dabuffguy said:
I see your point and I'm glad you can kinda see my side of it too. But as I planned, i will only be running two orals at one time for the first 4 wks and the last 4 wks. Hopefully giving the liver a little break in the middle. Oh and btw, I totally forgot to mention my halo is SUBLINGUAL. I dont know what i was thinkin not mentioning that. So i really should only have to worry about the var. And i'm stickin with 100mgs ED and if i'm not happy i'm done with it.
herdus33 said:
you said you tried 50mg var, right? go 80mg and see if that floats your boat, if not go 100. 80 is a lot. I was doing 50, and wasn't feel it all that much, a little. I went to 60 and that shit came alive. Try less first. It's always a better approach.
var and EQ is a good combo. If you are lean, the end of your cycle will really show some insane vascularity.
keep me updated. I'm interested in hearing about this.
herdus33
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Right on the 50mg of var. Plus I only ran it for 4 wks i think. Not long enough I know. That was a dumb idea on limited funds.
But i think i will take your advice and start a little lower. Maybe 70 or 80 to start. And yes my goal is to really lean out in this cycle. I'll be starting on monday
. I've actually started the EQ early just because it takes so damn long to kick in. I will also be just about 2 months into my 3.33iu's of HGH ED. This cycle was obviously designed for body recompostion.
But i think i will take your advice and start a little lower. Maybe 70 or 80 to start. And yes my goal is to really lean out in this cycle. I'll be starting on monday
. I've actually started the EQ early just because it takes so damn long to kick in. I will also be just about 2 months into my 3.33iu's of HGH ED. This cycle was obviously designed for body recompostion.
