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rx123

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usually drink about a gallon per day......how much difference in weight loss would drinking 2 gallons per day make? can that be dangerous?
 
You don't need that much water. The only point would be to make you feel more full so it's easier not to eat. Even then you might be flushing electrolytes out of your system

JC
 
Drinking all that water is so your body won't retain water as supply. If you feed your body water like crazy it will not store water for later use since it knows it will receive it. If you drink so much water you will loook skinner. I drink a lot of diet sodas even though it has sodium, but if you drink a cup of water w/ it you will piss out the sodium. I sometimes do that....
Drinking so much water won't kill your craving or make you full but diet soda does!:)
 
Water is much healthier than diet soda, are you retarded? Keep drinking 1 gallon of water, 2 gallons per day seems high.
 
diet coke/pepsi is rich in caffeine ==> it is diuretic = it does not rehydrate your body

plain water is much better
 
Hey Aurelius (and every one else on this thread) a study was done quite recently that debunked the whole theory of caffeine beinng a diruetic.


Here's how it worked: people were randomized into a control and an experiment group. The controls were served delicious decaf. THe experimentees were served real coffee with caffeine. Of course they did not know which they were getting.

Their urine output was measured for several hours.

The results? The people who drank decaf peed not only just as much but just as often as the group that drank the regular.

I do not like caffeine for a variety of reasons (increased cortisol, insulin resistance) buit the dirutic effect is not one of them.

JC
 
joncrane said:
Hey Aurelius (and every one else on this thread) a study was done quite recently that debunked the whole theory of caffeine beinng a diruetic.


Here's how it worked: people were randomized into a control and an experiment group. The controls were served delicious decaf. THe experimentees were served real coffee with caffeine. Of course they did not know which they were getting.

Their urine output was measured for several hours.

The results? The people who drank decaf peed not only just as much but just as often as the group that drank the regular.

I do not like caffeine for a variety of reasons (increased cortisol, insulin resistance) buit the dirutic effect is not one of them.

JC

I have also heard of that study but it seems odd....

I really do feel the diuretic effect when I have strong coffees ???
 
I didn't even mention the diuretic effect, I was more concerned when the person with like 10 posts, was saying how its better to drink diet soda than water.
 
so if your a female prone to water retention and is already drinking a gallon per day....would u up the dosage?

brickgirl on the women's board says she drinks 2 gallons per day to get to her contest weight. She says she weighs 151 off season and drops 30lbs for contest.
 
I'd have to read the actual study to verify the validity of it for myself. I mean, what if a few people from each group happened to drink a lot of water before going to the study? What if they pee a lot anyway (like me)? I dunno, but caffeine makes me pee, and I know it. Stupid research...
 
I don't care what she does, drink one gallon of water per day, and reduce your sodium intake, sodium makes you retain more water, drinking 2 gallons a day, you will be peeing all day long, and you could start flushing out some of your vitamins and minerals, you could get water toxication, (I spelled it wrong), which is rare, but a few people have died from it. Do a search on these boards, someone posted about it a little while back.
 
This was posted today by CrimsonKing
CrimsonKing said:
No Need to Guzzle All That Water, Expert Says
Fri Aug 9, 7:40 PM ET
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Trying to do the "right" thing by drinking eight full glasses of water a day may do little more than make a person run to the bathroom, a researcher said on Friday.



Newspaper articles, health and beauty magazines all advise drinking at least 8 full glasses of water a day totaling 64 ounces for optimal health -- an approach called "8x8" by proponents.

But Dr. Heinz Valtin of Dartmouth Medical School in New Hampshire said there is no scientific evidence to back up this advice, which has helped create a huge market for bottled water.

"After 10 months of careful searching I have found no scientific evidence that supports '8x8'," Valtin, who has written textbooks on the subject of human water balance, said in a telephone interview.

Writing in the American Journal of Physiology, Valtin, a kidney specialist, said people forget that the food they eat also contains some water.

The Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council ( news - web sites) has recommended that people take in about one milliliter of water for each calorie of food eaten.

This adds up to two liters, or 74 fluid ounces on an average 2,000-calorie diet. But the National Research Council also noted that much of this is already contained in food.

"I did 43 years of research on that system -- the osmoregulatory system. That system is so precise and so fast that I find it impossible to believe that evolution left us with a chronic water deficit," Valtin said.

LOW ON FLUID

If a person gets low on fluid, the body compensates by bringing fluid back out of the kidneys and by slowing the loss of water through the skin, Valtin said. Thirst kicks in long before dehydration starts, he added.

"It does it very quickly and very accurately and it does so in minutes," Valtin said.

He said he and colleagues became concerned after seeing dozens of newspaper and magazine articles urging people to sip water all day. "I started talking to my colleagues and asking them 'Do you know of any evidence for this?'. Invariably, they said, 'No I think it's a myth'," Valtin said.

The journal asked him to review all the scientific studies he could find and he concluded that someone misinformed has been telling people to drink large amounts of water when most do not need to.

"I am referring to healthy adults in a temperate climate leading a largely sedentary existence," Valtin said. "Persons with certain diseases must have large volumes of water -- kidney stones are probably the most common example."

The rest can just drink enough to slake thirst -- and this includes coffee, tea, and even beer -- despite their diuretic effects, Valtin said.

He hopes people will be relieved of the guilt of not getting enough water, and of the expense of buying bottled water to drink throughout the day.

"There is also the possibility that if you drink a lot of water that happens to be polluted then of course you get more pollutants," Valtin said.

"Then there is the inconvenience of constant urination, the embarrassment of having to go to the bathroom all the time," he added.

And overdoses of water can cause water intoxication that can lead to confusion and even death. Water intoxication is one deadly effect of taking the drug Ecstasy, for instance, because it makes people thirsty beyond their physical needs.
 
joncrane said:
Hey Aurelius (and every one else on this thread) a study was done quite recently that debunked the whole theory of caffeine beinng a diruetic.


Here's how it worked: people were randomized into a control and an experiment group. The controls were served delicious decaf. THe experimentees were served real coffee with caffeine. Of course they did not know which they were getting.

Their urine output was measured for several hours.

The results? The people who drank decaf peed not only just as much but just as often as the group that drank the regular.

I do not like caffeine for a variety of reasons (increased cortisol, insulin resistance) buit the dirutic effect is not one of them.

JC


Man, with all due respect, I don't see how they possibly could have come to that conclusion. I know caffeine makes me pee more- it's obvious. I can be carrying a great pump, like when I'm on creatine, and take a few Vivarin and my arm will be a full 1/4" smaller by the end of the day, no matter how much water I try to drink to make up for it. This has happened time and time again, like clockwork. I can feel it in my muscles too.

I don't buy that study at all.
 
here is the study :

Study Shows Caffeine Does Not Increase Dehydration
(Released: June 25, 2002)
By Janice Palmer, Office of University Communications
STORRS, Conn. -- Caffeine is not the diuretic demon people are often told to avoid during exercise or while working in extreme environmental conditions. In fact, caffeine is no more a diuretic than water, according to a research review article by Larry Armstrong, a professor of exercise and environmental physiology, at the University of Connecticut's Neag School of Education.

For decades, health and exercise experts have warned that consuming caffeine and caffeinated beverages can lead to dehydration. But Armstrong, an avid runner and a well-respected scientist in the fields of thermo-regulation and human performance, observed evidence to the contrary, so he investigated whether abstaining from caffeinated beverages was scientifically and physiologically justifiable.

"While there have been several studies done that show caffeine is a mild diuretic, there is no evidence that exercise, when combined with the consumption of caffeine or caffeinated beverages, will result in chronic dehydration, and this is contrary to the advice of most exercise physiologists, physicians and dieticians," explains Armstrong, who has been conducting fluid balance research since 1980.

"Therefore, the health and performance of athletes and recreational enthusiasts will not be impaired if they consume caffeine and caffeinated beverages in moderation and eat a well-balanced diet," he says. The National Coffee Association funded his study.

- MORE -

Among his findings:

When consuming caffeine or a caffeinated beverage, the body retains some of the fluid;


Caffeine consumption causes a mild diuresis very similar to that of water. (Water, when consumed in large volume, increases urine output);


There is no evidence that consumption of caffeinated beverages causes a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to health or exercise performance;


A person who regularly consumes caffeine has a higher tolerance to the diuretic effect;


The determination of safety or risk of consuming caffeine and caffeinated beverages depends on several factors, including the amount consumed and tolerance to caffeine.

For decades, caffeine has been a favorite stimulant for athletes trying to make weight or enhance muscle definition before competition. Both the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the International Olympic Committee classify caffeine as a banned substance because of its ergogenic properties. But while there are instances of abnormal and unhealthy diuretic use by athletes, Armstrong reports that "these examples should not be interpreted to mean that the average person who participates in exercise several times a week would be jeopardizing his or her health by consuming one or two caffeinated products each day."

Since the scientific literature analyzed by Armstrong focused on moderate amounts of caffeine (1-4 cups of coffee a day), he advises that further research be conducted to determine if chronic, high-dose caffeine consumed during several days results in fluid-electrolyte imbalances.

His findings were published in the June issue of the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism and recently presented at the American College of Sports Medicine conference in St. Louis, MO.
 
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Drinking so much water won't kill your craving or make you full but diet soda does!
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The caffine aside, the sweetner in diet pop increases hunger cravings because it makes your body think it is getting glucose when it is getting nothing.
I know that since I quit drinking a bunch of pop and make sure I drink a gallon of water a day I sleep better, my skin tone is better and I save big bucks...lol
 
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