Guys, need some clearing up..

[pepperorsalt]

Guys, I have been training naturally for more than 5 yrs, 30 years of age and weigh 80kg. I'm on tren right now (just started the cycle) and this my first time on tren. The box says 75mg/ml x 10ml. Does that mean that 1 ml equals to 75mg? My dosage now is 1 ml on every 3 days...is that sufficient?

Thanks for any assistance guys

 

[Apexx]

yes, that's what it means. If it's tren-a, it needs to be done at least eod.
R U taking anything else besides the tren?

 

[pepperorsalt]

yes, that's what it means. If it's tren-a, it needs to be done at least eod.
R U taking anything else besides the tren?

Thks dude. Ya its tren-a. Nope, i'm jus on tren right now, no stacking of any kind at all. For 1 cycle with total duration of 5.5 weeks, is that alright?

Thks again

 

[njmuscleguy]

Definitely want to run tren ace no less than every other day.... most prefer ED ... for more stable levels... you should always run some test with that (test prop being ideal)... it will compliment the tren gains as well as ensure you don't have libido issues... 6-8 weeks is a good amt of time to run tren

 

[SwolK]

Thks dude. Ya its tren-a. Nope, i'm jus on tren right now, no stacking of any kind at all. For 1 cycle with total duration of 5.5 weeks, is that alright?

Thks again

that is a horrible first cycle bro.

Tren only for a first cycle... dumb

If i were you i would get on some test and then drop the tren.
run the test for 10 weeks around 500mg
and then proper pct

 

[SwolK]

also, it sounds like you need to do a lot more research

 

[get456]

also, it sounds like you need to do a lot more research

yup... nuff said

 

[sweed]

bad first cycle without doing research. drop everything , read up on AS and then go back on so you actually know what u are doing. just dont want you to mess yourself up.

 

[SwolK]

bad first cycle without doing research. drop everything , read up on AS and then go back on so you actually know what u are doing. just dont want you to mess yourself up.

thats about what i said, but depending on how long he has been on the tren. it will shut you down pretty fast, so maybe some test b/f coming off as i mentioned up there, will help with PCT(which im assuming that he does not know about either)

 

[rykertest]

whats your PCT look like?

 

[pepperorsalt]

Definitely want to run tren ace no less than every other day.... most prefer ED ... for more stable levels... you should always run some test with that (test prop being ideal)... it will compliment the tren gains as well as ensure you don't have libido issues... 6-8 weeks is a good amt of time to run tren

so if i were to run with test prop, do I pop 50mg per week of test prop on top of my tren right now?

 

[SwolK]

so if i were to run with test prop, do I pop 50mg per week of test prop on top of my tren right now?

oh shit...

50mg per day, or eod.

Bro, how many shots have the Tren have you done?

 

[sweed]

so if i were to run with test prop, do I pop 50mg per week of test prop on top of my tren right now?

no no.. test prop needs to be injected eod . common doses are 100-150 mgs eod. you clearly have no clue what u are doing.. start pct, and once u have done some research then start on some test. i researched for about a year and a half before jumpin on.

 

[pepperorsalt]

oh shit...

50mg per day, or eod.

Bro, how many shots have the Tren have you done?

Jus had my second shot of tren today bro.

 

[damnitmannn727]

Bro, If this is your first cycle. BAD CHOICE.
First Cycle= Test only(500mg/ew)
And ya if you already started the tren, I'd add Test(Prop). And you need to make it longer than 5.5weeks. I'd do around 8.
Hope you planned out your PCT.

 

[sweed]

jsut wait til he gets the tren coughs and thinks hes dieing... stop tren altogether.. if u've only done 2 shots, stop and read up.. tren is not a benginners AS

 

[pepperorsalt]

thks for the advice guys...appreciated it.

I'll stop tren for now and do more research (apparently i've done not nuff).

reckon there's no need for clomid since it's only 2 shots i've took?

 

[rakasha681]

thks for the advice guys...appreciated it.

I'll stop tren for now and do more research (apparently i've done not nuff).

reckon there's no need for clomid since it's only 2 shots i've took?

Yeah, you can never do too much research, especially with tren. I'm not an expert, but i wouldnt expect 2 shots, 3 days apart to have come close to stable blood levels, or much of an impact at all... so myself, i wouldnt worry about the clomid.

Just as a comparison, Im on my 3rd cycle. First one was Dr. prescribed HRT, 300mg test/wk, the i read, and i read some more, then i got on some boards, found out i didnt read enough, then read everything i could find for another 6-8 months, and went with a test cyp 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. Then read some more, and researched tren, and started over every time someone told me something i didnt know, went back and re-read everything, after another 6 months i started my current cycle. Which is:
Wk 1-10 50mg Test Prop ED
Wk 2-10 37.5mg Tren-a ED
Wk 1-10 50mg Proviron ED(split morning 8am/8pm)
Wk 1-10 .5mg Cabaser(cabergoline for prolactin levels) every 3 or 4 days
Wk 1-10 500iu HCG EW
PCT

and the most important part... DIET... gotta eat big to get big, tren is a little more forgiving on the diet then most aas, but to get the most out of it, you should still eat a clean 4000 cals a day.

Hope that helps a little.

 

[pepperorsalt]

danke.

 

[SwolK]

thks for the advice guys...appreciated it.

I'll stop tren for now and do more research (apparently i've done not nuff).

reckon there's no need for clomid since it's only 2 shots i've took?

good call on stoping and doing more research.

someone else can probably tell you if you need clomid. 2 shots is not much, but tren is suppressive, so hopefully someone else will chime in. Mac, Ulter, Drr...

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

Guys, I have been training naturally for more than 5 yrs, 30 years of age and weigh 80kg. I'm on tren right now (just started the cycle) and this my first time on tren. The box says 75mg/ml x 10ml. Does that mean that 1 ml equals to 75mg? My dosage now is 1 ml on every 3 days...is that sufficient?

Thanks for any assistance guys

ok so what do we know here?
he's 30yrs old
5+ yrs of training experience
and he weighs 176lbs (80kg)
...and i'm going to guess that this is your first cycle.

OK so you made a boo boo and picked TREN ACE (judging by the 75mg/ml) ...so it's too late to tell you to otherwise now.

take NJ's good advice and stack it with some TEST PROP (it's an injectable test) and it compliments TREN ACE well because they are both fast acting and fast dissipating and need to be injected at least EOD and it'll also save your libido as mentioned.

IMO (taking all of the above into account) i'd cut the TREN to 37.5mg (1/2ml) and i'd take with the PROP 50mg EOD

your body is fresh (your receptors are virgin) with proper diet, rest, and supplementation ...your body WILL respond (even if your goal was to turn into the hulk, you're not gonna do it all in one cycle)

keep in mind that most of these guys either weigh more than you or have alot more AAS experience ...OR BOTH.

you can always up your dosage at YOUR descretion according to YOUR tolerance to the sides.

especially with TREN ...i'd plan a proper PCT ...that should include at least HGC/CLOM ...PCT protocol i'll leave to your research as opinions vary widely.

stay away from NOLV while on TREN

good luck

 

[pepperorsalt]

ok so what do we know here?
he's 30yrs old
5+ yrs of training experience
and he weighs 176lbs (80kg)
...and i'm going to guess that this is your first cycle.

OK so you made a boo boo and picked TREN ACE (judging by the 75mg/ml) ...so it's too late to tell you to otherwise now.

take NJ's good advice and stack it with some TEST PROP (it's an injectable test) and it compliments TREN ACE well because they are both fast acting and fast dissipating and need to be injected at least EOD and it'll also save your libido as mentioned.

IMO (taking all of the above into account) i'd cut the TREN to 37.5mg (1/2ml) and i'd take with the PROP 50mg EOD

Do i stay on with Prop the same time as Tren or do i need longer with Prop? Can i do Tren and Prop on the same day?

Will def go do more reading up...felt like a stupid jackass now..but better than messed myself up.

 

[SwolK]

ok so what do we know here?
he's 30yrs old
5+ yrs of training experience
and he weighs 176lbs (80kg)
...and i'm going to guess that this is your first cycle.

OK so you made a boo boo and picked TREN ACE (judging by the 75mg/ml) ...so it's too late to tell you to otherwise now.

take NJ's good advice and stack it with some TEST PROP (it's an injectable test) and it compliments TREN ACE well because they are both fast acting and fast dissipating and need to be injected at least EOD and it'll also save your libido as mentioned.

IMO (taking all of the above into account) i'd cut the TREN to 37.5mg (1/2ml) and i'd take with the PROP 50mg EOD

your body is fresh (your receptors are virgin) with proper diet, rest, and supplementation ...your body WILL respond (even if your goal was to turn into the hulk, you're not gonna do it all in one cycle)

keep in mind that most of these guys either weigh more than you or have alot more AAS experience ...OR BOTH.

you can always up your dosage at YOUR descretion according to YOUR tolerance to the sides.

especially with TREN ...i'd plan a proper PCT ...that should include at least HGC/CLOM ...PCT protocol i'll leave to your research as opinions vary widely.

stay away from NOLV while on TREN

good luck

50mg eod of test prop would be a waste.

im a fan of low doses, but that is too low. Test should be around 350mg per week on the low end. not 150-200mg

 

[SwolK]

Do i stay on with Prop the same time as Tren or do i need longer with Prop? Can i do Tren and Prop on the same day?

Will def go do more reading up...felt like a stupid jackass now..but better than messed myself up.

at least you are willing to learn now...
thats a good thing

 

[rakasha681]

Do i stay on with Prop the same time as Tren or do i need longer with Prop? Can i do Tren and Prop on the same day?

Will def go do more reading up...felt like a stupid jackass now..but better than messed myself up.

You can run the prop longer if you want, helps with libido and such...

You can def do the tren and prop on the same day... same syringe too.. makes for less pokes.

 

[pepperorsalt]

Appreciate it again guys.. off to do some serious reading now.

 

[SwolK]

read Mr.X sticky for newbs at the top of the page

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

Do i stay on with Prop the same time as Tren or do i need longer with Prop? Can i do Tren and Prop on the same day?

Will def go do more reading up...felt like a stupid jackass now..but better than messed myself up.

yes well that is the idea TEST PROP 50mg and TREN 37.5mg EOD
...if you were to stay on the TREN
...and like i said "you can always up your dosage at YOUR descretion according to YOUR tolerance to the sides."

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

50mg eod of test prop would be a waste.

im a fan of low doses, but that is too low. Test should be around 350mg per week on the low end. not 150-200mg

first off i'm not bashing ...but i equate "WASTE" with "you're not gonna get anything out of it."

...so i decided to elaborate on why i said what i said.


*TEST PROP exerts more of an effect mg for mg than do other TEST esters.
(most experienced AAS users will agree with this)

*it's not 50mg EOD of just PROP ...it's 50mg PROP + 37.5mg of TREN ACE.
(TREN is very powerful, hence the nasty sides)

*this is a guy with no AAS history ...he has virgin receptors
(he's going to respond well, that's why everyone remembers thier first cycle)

*he weighs 176lbs.

*lastly, i said and i quote "you can always up your dosage at YOUR descretion according to YOUR tolerance to the sides."

respectfully,
T.G.S.