growth hormone question for the pros

[supergirl]

OK all you growth hormone gurus out there, listen up... i have a guy that wants to start his cycle of GH... so what is the best way to cycle it? (how much/how often) Should he stack it with something else? His stats are currently: 5'10, 225, ~15%bf... so he wants to lean out and build some nice lean mass... What would you guys recommend??? Thanks so much..

SG

 

[supergirl]

he already bought a cycle's worth of GH and i believe he did test before...

 

[AnotherRedHead]

Growth is done how you personally like it. Some pros use 5 days on 2 off, some 6 on 1 off, some 3 on 2 off....Some take in divided doses, some in bigger doses....Its hard to develope a GH cycle for someone you dont know.

 

[littlearnold1069]

5 days on 2 off, some 6 on 1 off, some 3 on 2 off....

hey 5+2=7; 6+1=7; 3+2=5...what do they do the other 2 days of the week?

 

[lawnsaver]

They repeat the process. 3 on 2 off, 3 on 2 off, etc.

 

[pgerardone]

Growth works best over time. The longer you are on it the better. How much he should take depends on how much he has. No matter what anyone says I have had good results doing 2iu's everother day. The thing about growth is the effects are not as quick or apparent as steroids, the gains happen over time. A good dose would be 4iu's every day or every other day. He needs to take a high androgen like anadrol or test. Insulin is also needed to maximize the gh's effects. If he is trying to lose bodyfat he could do 5-10iu's after training with carbs. He should also take t3(cytomel)starting at 25mcgs a day. With this combination and a good diet he should get into very good shape.

 

[gearseeker]

Insulin - humilin R at 5iu AM and 5iu PM with the HGH at 1.5iu or more AM and PM.

As much HGH as you can afford for as long as you can take it and its a waste without a huge androgen cycle and insulin. If the dude is over 25 it would be wise to check T3 and T4 levels prior so you can adjust while on the HGH.

If this is for a cutting cycle, skip the insulin unless you have prior experience with it.

 

[AAP]

With GH, the longer the better. it is smart to start GH 2 weeks BEFORE the start of a cycle and carry through 3 weeks after the cycle ends. 4ius minimum per day (have never seen the difference of splitting the doses though) I have always used the 5on 2off cycle. He will need high test levels and some oral form of A.S. to see the GH magic. Watch the wrist pain, when it develops, you are at the threshold of your "working" level tolerance of GH. go beyond and risk the irreversible side effects of organ and bone growth. Insulin is a major factor in using GH, but I found that without Insulin, I burned BF% a lot quicker.

 

[supergirl]

he is 33 years old and needs to drop the fat and tighten the skin i think more that put on more size, well except for his biceps, he could use a little work there. So i would go ahead and say that the GH would be for a cutting cycle with minumum gains...
So now knowing this.. what is the best formula??? Thanks guys for all your input

 

[supergirl]

bump

 

[dbol_winstrol]

gh can be scary due to sides. find out what he paid and make sure his product is genuine.

 

[ANABOLICchild]

Yes alll modd/pro's please help w/ thisn issue . I myself have 2 boxes of eli lilly's GH 5 ml/box. In have absolutly no fu_king clue how to incorporate it w/ any of my cycles. First of it 10ml of GH enough for a cycle?

 

[supergirl]

how should he cycle it with test?

So far this is my conclusion... 2 weeks gh only, then add in the test...
gh 5 on 2 off at ~ 8ius a day BUT what about the test?
He doesn't want to use insulin

 

[jynxed]

bump

 

[gearseeker]

Sgirl - I use 400mg enanthate per day. For some thats a weekly dose - so it depends on his tolerance and goals. I would say 1000mg per week minumum and I prefer a daily shot no matter what type of testosterone is used.

Again the HGH should be used for as long as possible. I dont understand why you would want to start the HGH before the test cycle, but continuing the HGH after coming off the test isnt a bad idea for keeping some muscle gained.

 

[yiyangzhi]

I have a burning question: Why take insulin w HGH? Insulin will shut down body's fat-burning mode. Why not take ALA instead?

 

[Ulter]

He will not build any mass on gh. It is a good fat burner but that's all he can expect at the doses that are safe for him to take. If he want's to add mass while using it he will need AS. But it will be the AS that adds the mass.
He should use 4.5-6iu/day and at his age he should take it before bed, 6 nights on and one off. He should start it like you said in his cutting cycle and take it 6-1 until it's gone.

 

[supergirl]

but i need to know how to cycle gh with test please...
thanks