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Greenspan concerned with weak dollar

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Federal Reserve chairman says U.S. must address trade, budget deficits or face future woes.
November 19, 2004: 11:30 AM EST



NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan warned the U.S. must deal with the causes of the weak dollar -- the U.S. trade deficit and the federal budget deficit -- or the country could run into economic problems down the line.

Greenspan said that while history has shown that developed countries are not necessarily hurt by a weak currency, "we cannot become complacent. History is not an infallible guide to the future," he said in a speech delivered in Europe.

"More will need to be done in Europe as well as in the United States to ensure that our economies are sufficiently resilient to respond effectively to all the shocks and adjustments that the future will surely bring," he concluded.

Greenspan focused on the nation's current account deficit, the measure of both trade and investments across the national board, which he said has risen to more than 5 percent of gross domestic product, the broad measure of the nation's economy.

"It seems persuasive that, given the size of the U.S. current account deficit, a diminished appetite for adding to dollar balances must occur at some point," he said.

Greenspan said it is therefore important that the U.S. budget deficit be cut, a move that would reduce the current account deficit.

"Reducing the federal budget deficit (or preferably moving it to surplus) appears to be the most effective action that could be taken to augment domestic saving," he said. "Corporate saving in the United States has risen to its highest rate in decades and is unlikely to increase materially. Alternative approaches to reducing our current account imbalance by reducing domestic investment or inducing recession to suppress consumption obviously are not constructive long-term solutions."

Remarks send dollar lower
The value of the U.S. dollar, which has been hitting a series of four-year lows versus the yen and record lows against the euro during the last couple of weeks, fell following Greenspan's remarks.

The Fed chairman, "left little imagination to currency traders other than to sell the US currency," said Ashraf Laidi, chief currency analyst at MG Financial Group. He said Greenspan's comments warnings about future declines in the dollar unless the federal budget deficit is reduced were particularly telling to the markets.

"This last comment is crucial, especially when the U.S. Congress last night rejected restrictions on tax cuts and spending, and raised the federal debt limit by $800 billion, to $8.18 trillion," Laidi said.

Economist Robert Brusca of FAO Economics suggested that he doesn't agree that the speech is a warning from Greenspan about a weak dollar.

"If anything Greenspan is afraid that the dollar will not get weak enough, and as a result the U.S. current account deficit could stay too large for too long," he said.

Brusca concedes that his interpretation is reading between the lines and is not the way some others are interpreting the remarks. But he argues that while Greenspan voiced support for closing the budget deficit, it's really the current account deficit that worries him more. And one way to close the current account deficit is see the dollar drop even farther compared to the other major currencies.

A call to shrink the US current account deficit, as long as we conclude that is it not a call for a recession in the U.S., is also a call for stronger growth abroad and for a weaker dollar," said Brusca.

Not a crisis
Greenspan said that so far the evidence is that there is still strong demand for U.S. assets by overseas investors and central banks. Those investments help limit the current account deficit and keep the dollar from sinking further.

"We see only limited indications that the large U.S. current account deficit is meeting financing resistance," he said. He added, however, "Net claims against residents of the United States cannot continue to increase forever in international portfolios at their recent pace.

"This situation suggests that international investors will eventually adjust their accumulation of dollar assets or, alternatively, seek higher dollar returns to offset concentration risk, elevating the cost of financing of the U.S. current account deficit and rendering it increasingly less tenable," said Greenspan.

Greenspan said he did not foresee a crisis in markets if the United States does not close its so-called twin deficits. While he didn't identify what potential crisis he was referring to, some economists have suggested that a sudden collapse in the value of the dollar was possible without taking steps to close the deficits. Greenspan's comments seemed to dismiss that worst case scenario.

Greenspan began his comments saying he was speaking as an individual, not for the Federal Reserve
 
I'm liking it. No jokes about Canadian money on late night TV anymore. The loonie is gaining on the greenback...and quickly.
 
the weak dollar is awesome. It allows our exports to be REAL cheap!

oh yeah i forgot. We don't export anything here in the US. :(
 
The only upside to a weak dollar is that buying domestic becomes more attractive for Americans as foriegn goods become more expensive comparatively. But this does not counter the slew of downsides that a weak dollar would have on our economy. The US is on the brink of a very dangerous place right now, it's more than a little frightening.
 
Forge said:
The only upside to a weak dollar is that buying domestic becomes more attractive for Americans as foriegn goods become more expensive comparatively. But this does not counter the slew of downsides that a weak dollar would have on our economy. The US is on the brink of a very dangerous place right now, it's more than a little frightening.

And that would be what????
 
Maxpain said:
And that would be what????


I assume you are asking about the downsides of a weak dollar?

A weak dollar means imports into the US become more expensive. If left unchecked this would eventually lead to inflation and higher interest rates from the banks. As shown in the 70's this is a very bad economic combo; if the inflation gets out of hand then the interest rates get out of control as well, which amplifies the increasing prices of imports and stifles the economy.

Much of America depends on imports, but what is more damaging is the fact that much of the foreign world's economy relies on exporting into America. This is the domino effect, a very weak dollar brings with it the side effect of weaking many other world economies due to their reliance on exports into the US. This is why a strong euro is not really in the best interests of European economies right now.

This is why much of the world has an interest in maintaining the US dollar as the top currency, they depend so much on the American economy being stable and strong. Yet the euro is overtaking the dollar. Since Nov.2 there has been a huge spike in Asian and Middle Easterns investing into the euro, this is a symptom of the lack of faith in the dollar due to Bush's fiscal policies. His deficit spending, coupled with the weakening dollar and rising health care costs are putting the US in a very dangerous place. If things turn here, it will snowball across the world economy.



In short, a mildly weaker dollar may be good for the US, but a dollar weakening out of control will be disastrous. And the line between the two is very, very thin right now.
 
It's funny. In Canada, the dollar is RISING and the arguments there are that the rising dollar will HURT the economy. Here it's the opposite. So which is it???

I love when economists can never agree whether a rising or falling dollar will hurt or help an economy. Might as well be psychics and have 1-800 #'s.
 
Razorguns said:
It's funny. In Canada, the dollar is RISING and the arguments there are that the rising dollar will HURT the economy. Here it's the opposite. So which is it???

I love when economists can never agree whether a rising or falling dollar will hurt or help an economy. Might as well be psychics and have 1-800 #'s.
The Canada dollar is rising AS the US dollar is falling.
 
WODIN said:
The Canada dollar is rising AS the US dollar is falling.

Yep. And in Canada, having a STRONG dollar is a bad thing. Go figure. Maybe the US and Canada should trade currencies then.
 
Every country is different. Each country has it's own fiscal and monetary policies, therefore in some cases a rising currency is good, and in some it is bad. Too much of either is always bad though, and that is the case for the US. Granted a weakening of the dollar could cause an increase in output due to our exports being cheaper to foreign countries therefore increasing our output, but like someone said before, we don't export a whole hell of a lot, so it doesn't really work that well for us. Bottom line is you can't spend like a maniac (That's you Bush) and not do anythign to pay for it, much less have a tax cut. And you fuckwits voted for this administration again. Oh well.
 
Razorguns said:
It's funny. In Canada, the dollar is RISING and the arguments there are that the rising dollar will HURT the economy. Here it's the opposite. So which is it???

I love when economists can never agree whether a rising or falling dollar will hurt or help an economy. Might as well be psychics and have 1-800 #'s.


It's liberalism. It's this way...oh wait it's this way.....nope it's this way again. You know the ole' flip flop.
 
Maxpain said:
It's liberalism. It's this way...oh wait it's this way.....nope it's this way again. You know the ole' flip flop.


Bush can be blamed for this mess - supreme cold truth.
 
Maxpain said:
It's liberalism. It's this way...oh wait it's this way.....nope it's this way again. You know the ole' flip flop.


blame a liberal, what an even bigger moron :chomp:
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
Been to Home Depot for lumber lately? Ouch.


Whats even worse than that is the price of sheetmetal in the US, it's more than doubled in the past two years, not to mention the problem even getting stock in house (supply problems). It's really hurting my company right now, and we are doing better than most of our competitors. It's not pretty right now in the US industrial sector.
 
Razorguns said:
Yep. And in Canada, having a STRONG dollar is a bad thing. Go figure. Maybe the US and Canada should trade currencies then.

Different situation. Canada is a net exporter so all our goods people are buying become more expensive the higher our dollar goes.
 
bluepeter said:
Different situation. Canada is a net exporter so all our goods people are buying become more expensive the higher our dollar goes.

Canada's ratio of Exports to Imports is HIGHER than the US's? I beg to differ. It may be a tad higher, but nothing substantial that the economic policies of both countries would have to be so drastically different as a result.
 
Razorguns said:
Canada's ratio of Exports to Imports is HIGHER than the US's? I beg to differ. It may be a tad higher, but nothing substantial that the economic policies of both countries would have to be so drastically different as a result.

Not saying that. I don't know off the top of my head what the US percentages are. I'm just saying that a faction of Canadian business moans about the high dollar due to their product suddenly becoming more expensive.
 
Razorguns said:
Canada's ratio of Exports to Imports is HIGHER than the US's? I beg to differ. It may be a tad higher, but nothing substantial that the economic policies of both countries would have to be so drastically different as a result.
the "economic policies" employed by any country are going to depend on a whole lot more than mere imports and exports

depending on the predominance of various industries in any given country, where they are in their economic cycle (and the cycles within industries), the level of inflation, interest rates etc etc etc, a strong/weak dollar can help. forge said it solidly in his first post

the bottom line is that when we say taht a "strong" or "weak" dollar is useful (against our trading partners), there is a silent "slightly" before either. a large change in the relative value of the dollar in a short span is usually harmful, because the market kinks, forecasts are usually out, and businesses suffer.

if the dollar does start sinking fast, it limits the options that government has (in monetary and fiscal policy) to control/influence various elements of the economy, or the economy as a whole, and then you can all of a sudden find yourself in a situation where whole segments of the economy shit themselves

i used to love this stuff, id argue with my eco teacher for hours :D i think she went a bit mad by the end of it :D
 
Razorguns said:
Liberals must die. I think that'd make a good movie title don't cha think?
You wanna come and try and take me out bitch?

You really should learn to shut the fuck up when you don't know what your talking about.
 
Razorguns said:
Canada's ratio of Exports to Imports is HIGHER than the US's? I beg to differ. It may be a tad higher, but nothing substantial that the economic policies of both countries would have to be so drastically different as a result.

There's more to it then export to import ratio. You have to look at the overall percentage with which exports/imports make up the overall GDP. Canada largely depends on exports as a means of bringing in income (don't know the actual percentage though). Moreover, small businesses in Canada are the foundation for which Canada is built. A strong Canadian dollar hurts them because it means it's more expensive for other countries to purchase our goods.
 
Endless Iraq war + high oil price + weak US economy = 1973/79 crisis ?
 
WODIN said:
You wanna come and try and take me out bitch?

You really should learn to shut the fuck up when you don't know what your talking about.

Ironic you say that. My argument is always that liberals should shut the fuck up when they don't know what they're talking about!

I'm sending Kimbo after you.
 
Razorguns said:
Ironic you say that. My argument is always that liberals should shut the fuck up when they don't know what they're talking about!

I'm sending Kimbo after you.
I know what I'm talking about here. I haven't spent half my life studying money to here some wack job tell me I don't.

You got no balls little bitch.
 
WODIN said:
I know what I'm talking about here. I haven't spent half my life studying money to here some wack job tell me I don't.

You got no balls little bitch.

I can't even argue with someone with a patrick avatar. I love Patrick and got a spongebob/patrick dolls here on my desk. It'd be like sacrilege. Feels weird.

-= nav =-
 
Razorguns said:
I can't even argue with someone with a patrick avatar. I love Patrick and got a spongebob/patrick dolls here on my desk. It'd be like sacrilege. Feels weird.

-= nav =-
LMAO...Damn you are hard to rile.

True.
 
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