Gram a week Test Users

[Dr.Equinstein]

I am about to start my cycle next mon. of 1000mg of Test done bi-weekly mon-thurs, I would like to hear from those who have done Test ONLY cycles and preferably from people who used high doses as to your results. I will be going for 8 weeks at a gram with a taper for the last 2 of a 10 weeker. Also taking nolva to keep the water down at 10mgs a day. I am getting close so I am excited and want some peoples experiences to motivate me even more

 

[SofaGeorge]

I am about to start my cycle next mon. of 1000mg of Test done bi-weekly mon-thurs, I would like to hear from those who have done Test ONLY cycles and preferably from people who used high doses as to your results. I will be going for 8 weeks at a gram with a taper for the last 2 of a 10 weeker. Also taking nolva to keep the water down at 10mgs a day. I am getting close so I am excited and want some peoples experiences to motivate me even more

I think 1000-1200mg wk is where I get the best results on test. I've talked to several pros and top amateurs who have said they don't feel they see better results at 2000mg over 1000-1200mg week... and I've talked to others who swear you have to go to 2000mg... 3000mg.. etc...

I've done test only cycles... but prefer to add d-bol... deca... eq... whinny... or something else.

10 mg Nolva sounds low for 1000mg a week. I would go with a minimum of 20mg Nolva... but you would be better off getting Liquidex.

 

[Slider]

As most know I’m a fan of big cycles and mine is a gooder, anyway that sounds good but what test exactly are you thinking of just so I have an idea of concentrated blood levels since I run Test Enath (M-W-F). From a very good Mod on the board I started running Nolva but at 20mg/ed after 6wks in after 10mg/ed might have not been doing it but I won’t know for sure till the blood work is back this week which I had my Estro levels tested.
Also depending on the Test I like running 12wks but some might disagree.
Are you going to also run any of our bro’s Liquidex? I would highly recommend it then you could get away with Nolva @ 10mg/ed when needed later in the cycle since you need a little estro in your body to grow.

Take care,

Slider

 

[double d]

My current cycle is 1 gram of Test Enthanate/wk and 100mg Fina ED and I love it. A gram of test a week is good if you have some experience and cycles under your belt. I feel you get the best effects of Test at the 1 gram and above level. By this I mean the anabolisim and thermogenic properties of a high amount of test.
I also use L'dex at .5 mg EOD. As always when using higher amounts of androgens I would always include L'dex and Nolvadex for estrogen control, particulary if you are susceptible to estrogen related side-effects.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Sorry about that bros, i'm going to be using Enathate by tornell.
Is mon-thurs a good schedule for bi-weekly shots?

 

[MohawkMuscle]

My first cycle was between 500-1000mg per week.

And I blew up like crazy. I was 18 at teh time and suffered no sides. Except y hairy back that I have to shave almost weekly!


6 years later Im gonna do another test only cycle.
600mg per week only...

Does it actually increase thermogenisis? Am I able to get leaner on test?

 

[double d]

Does it actually increase thermogenisis? Am I able to get leaner on test?

While diet is the main factor in leaning out, I personally have experinenced "leaning out" or thermogenic effects from 1 gram + I have spoke to several national level competitors and their thought are inline with others that at a certain level (a high one mind you) test will have incredible fat-burning effects.

Bump for more opinions and experiences.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

The good doc is drooling with the thought of his Gram/week test shot..is mon-thurs a good split for bi-weekly on Enathate?

 

[double d]

Yes Doc, two 500mg shots of Test E is fine. One on Monday and one on Thursday.

 

[cyp]

I went from 235 to 250 in 6 weeks of 800-1000mg per week. Although I had some preexisting gyno (not from gear, I always had it) I didn't use Nolva, only 50mg clomid per day, and didn't have any negative effects.

 

[serge]

I am about to start my cycle next mon. of 1000mg of Test done bi-weekly mon-thurs, I would like to hear from those who have done Test ONLY cycles and preferably from people who used high doses as to your results. I will be going for 8 weeks at a gram with a taper for the last 2 of a 10 weeker. Also taking nolva to keep the water down at 10mgs a day. I am getting close so I am excited and want some peoples experiences to motivate me even more

i suggest running femera instead of nolvas, 2.5mg/ed

1g/test only per week hardly constitutes as a high dose cycle, its only one drug

you will love the gains from it, much more retainable, much more solid then with fucking dbol or anadrol

 

[ROAD DOG]

I am going to be trying a little experiment this winter.I am going to run an 8 week cycle.I will frontload the first 2 weeks with 1cc of omnadren ED(1750mg a week),then the other 6 weeks I will be shooting 1/2 cc of omnadren ED(875mg a week).Basically I will be shooting test everyday for 8 weeks,blood levels should be nice and steady.

 

[haxedout]

i did a gram for over 16 weeks........ make sure ya got hcg and clomid....

 

[ryker77]

I am going to be trying a little experiment this winter.I am going to run an 8 week cycle.I will frontload the first 2 weeks with 1cc of omnadren ED(1750mg a week),then the other 6 weeks I will be shooting 1/2 cc of omnadren ED(875mg a week).Basically I will be shooting test everyday for 8 weeks,blood levels should be nice and steady.

.5cc ED I hope you'll be using something else. Because .5cc is a waste of time, needles and scar tissue. And the big thing is each time you inject .5cc you'll be leaving a slight amount in the pin as waste. That amount will add up over 36 days. I would think you'll loose total about 3-4cc. Another factor is the more you inject the higher your chance of infection.

 

[panerai]

I don't think, you will be running a gram if you are using T200, most times it's underdosed.
I would go with 1200mg/week and split it into 3, or better 4 injections per week, frequency of injections is very important factor for better results and less side effects, very underestimated, BTW.
Also, 10mg/day of Nolvadex is definately too little. Liquidex will be much better, if not at least increase Nolvadex to 20mg/day but have some extra on hand, so if you have to, you can increase even more.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Hmm interesting panerai, well I think i'm going to hold off then until I can get enough to run 1200mg weekly.. 400mg mon-wed-fri..does this seem reasonable? Also i'm going to wait till i can get enough nolva or perhaps get liquidex...i see pumpnpose has 30mg/ml for 80.00..is this a good deal i am not very educated with liquidex. Is 30ml enough for a 10 week cycle, or can i just get away with running 20mg of Nolva ED..will that cut into gains to a severe degree?

 

[panerai]

2cc three times a week, why is it unreasonable? I highly doubt you will find properly dosed T200, but in case if you will those extra 200mg will just do good for you.
I'm sure you can find better deal on Liquidex then from pumpnpose, just look around, run a search with keyword "Liquidex" and ask people who are very happy with it...

Also, as anti-estrogen Liquidex is much better then Nolvadex, but you may want to run low dose of Liquidex with 10mg/day of Nolva, it's good for your lipid profile.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Panerai..you misunderstood me..i was just asking if shooting mon-wed-fri would be reasonable..i completely agree with you on the 1200mg.

 

[panerai]

I shoot practically ED for almost a year now, to be exact starting last September. Now, it's 3cc/day 6 days a week. I don't think, it's unreasonable. And, I don't even shoot into delts or other small muscles.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

And to think i'm a communications major..haha..i just mean is shooting mon-wed-fri a good split..or should i shoot mon-thur-sat ect. Just trying to find the best way to shoot Enathate through the week with mutiple shots. Also..can you comment on Tests thermogenic properties..anyone have any insight on this?

 

[panerai]

I don't see any difference between M-W-F and M-Th-St except the names of the day, pattern is basically the same.
I never experienced any thermogenic effect, even on 2+grams of Test. Yes, it's strong androgen, so it will make you much more agressive, some people might go crazy because of strong stimulation of CNS and as result they body temperature might raise, but, I don't think it's common and it's not direct.

 

[serge]

let hear some more on the fat burning effects of Test!

I am about to start a cut cycle with 400mg of Test but maybe I should bump it to 600mg-800mg per week!

What do you guys think?

thermogenic properties of test become evident at a dose of 500mg/week and higher

depending on your cycle experience i would definetly run 600mg/test/week or more, stacked with a mild anabolic like eq; all you will need for a great cycle. no need for orals

 

[serge]

I don't see any difference between M-W-F and M-Th-St except the names of the day, pattern is basically the same.
I never experienced any thermogenic effect, even on 2+grams of Test. Yes, it's strong androgen, so it will make you much more agressive, some people might go crazy because of strong stimulation of CNS and as result they body temperature might raise, but, I don't think it's common and it's not direct.

what do you ussually run, the highest i have gone on test is 1200mg/week totally up to just over 2g/gear/week

 

[The Man Child]

I love this post! I can't wait till I hit up my cycle next cycle with a gram+. This is also interesting to hear that Test has fat burning properties!

 

[Ash]

I love test at 1gram a week. I've thought about raising it though anywhere from 1500mg-2000mg a week for my next mass cycle.
I would love to here what kind of results you bros got when you went from 1g to 2g+.

Ash

 

[IronKop77]

Dr why not try usin QV enantate? It is higher dosed and cost the same if not less per cc?

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

I was going to IronKop..but some things came up and I had to use a different source of mine who doesn't carry QV products, real bummer..but i figure I will be happy with the Tornell E as long as i shoot enough lol

 

[HiFidelity]

ok

just as long as you take into consideration that the average strength of Tornel T200 is 130mg/ml. That meabs 7-8 cc's a week.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Even with shooting 1200mg i would be falling short of 1 gram

130mg/ml...are you positive on that?? Any else with anymore insight?

 

[double d]

Some great responses, especially Serge and Panerai. I guess what I said earlier about the thermogenis properties of Test could be clarified a little. Yes some do experience "fat-burning" from a high to moderate dose of Test, but what I was trying to say is that when dieting down nothing preserves lean muscle mass better than Test. So while Test may not be the primary thermogenic agent in a contest prep/dieting down phase, it can be supplementary in that regard along with other thermogens, Clen, ECA, etc.

Bump!!! For more input.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

From my understand doesn't Tornell have ISO 9002 recognition, from my understanding this is an International Standard that is hard to obtain.

 

[serge]

From my understand doesn't Tornell have ISO 9002 recognition, from my understanding this is an International Standard that is hard to obtain.

the company i work for has ISO 9002, its a system that assures quality control steps are being "taken", meaning not necesarrily practiced but documented in a strictly outlined binder..........thats it, they come in to audit the company once per year and go over that same fucking binder, they dont look at customer satisfaction figures, complaints.............all they look at is that company has a plan for generating their product that would in "theory" produce consistent batches.

ISO is a joke.

 

[serge]

tornell test results, scroll down to view

http://www.anabolicextreme.com/Anabolic/new_archives/anex_archive_issue70_QA.asp

 

[HiFidelity]

Re: Even with shooting 1200mg i would be falling short of 1 gram

130mg/ml...are you positive on that?? Any else with anymore insight?

Yea, that's the general consensus. But for $12-$15 a bottle, it is great. Absolutely painless.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Well unfortunately i'm paying 45 a bottle..i guess i'll just have to make due with Tornell..ho hum lol

 

[panerai]

what do you ussually run, the highest i have gone on test is 1200mg/week totally up to just over 2g/gear/week

For the past year I never used less then a gram of Test, the highest I went was 2100mg/week of Test with 75mg/day Fina and 80mg/day dbol.
I also have very good experience with thermogenics, so I believe would notice that effect from Test if it occure.

 

[HiFidelity]

Well unfortunately i'm paying 45 a bottle..i guess i'll just have to make due with Tornell..ho hum lol

That's not bad from a source bro. The $12-$15 price I mentioned is what I see in TJ,Mex bro.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

I am going to be trying a little experiment this winter.I am going to run an 8 week cycle.I will frontload the first 2 weeks with 1cc of omnadren ED(1750mg a week),then the other 6 weeks I will be shooting 1/2 cc of omnadren ED(875mg a week).Basically I will be shooting test everyday for 8 weeks,blood levels should be nice and steady.

switch to 1cc EOD, it's a cool idea I've considered too, just get some L-dex

 

[ROAD DOG]

switch to 1cc EOD, it's a cool idea I've considered too, just get some L-dex

I am going to run 1/2cc Ed,I will fill a syringe with 2cc and inject 1/2cc each day,that will prevent wasted gear that gets lost in the needle as opposed to just putting 1/2cc in each syringe.Of course I will put a new needle on each time.