Good gains without extra fat?

[bwc500]

What would be good to take with a moderate dose of test/dbol to help solidify the gains and make some keepable muscle? I was thinking maybe adding some winny, primo, or eq? What would be best?

 

[rottweiler75]

a strong anti E like armidex and not jumping your calories as as quick, maybe pyramid them up adding maybe 200-300 calories per week as u ad muscle. The biggest problem with getting too fat on a bulking cycle IMO is not knowing your maintence calories/ given u add some calories due to a increased metabolism on juice.

 

[drveejay11]

a strong anti E like armidex and not jumping your calories as as quick, maybe pyramid them up adding maybe 200-300 calories per week as u ad muscle. The biggest problem with getting too fat on a bulking cycle IMO is not knowing your maintence calories/ given u add some calories due to a increased metabolism on juice.

Nice advice bro

 

[rottweiler75]

As far as AS's go, i would maybe do a couple of weeks at the end with something mild like primo. Everyone rants and raves about testicule hypotrophy but at the same time, you have to worry about the raise in cortisol espically from test/dbol. maybe 2-3 weeks of primo, than a couple more of just hcg at first then clomid. Also the higher the dose and the stronger the adrogen, usually leads to a harder crash.