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good cycle for someone with a bad kidney?

sr20detb13

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ok ok i know most of you are going to say wtf? dont use steroids at all... ive had a kidney issue since birth i believe, may have been back from when i used dbol, or cypionate. but i dont think so. ive been off for about 4 years now, and have been working out stedily for about 3 months. gained a good amount, but have hit a physical block, not gaining any more wieght, nor strength.... so my question to you, what type of steroid is considerd safer on the kidneys? i was always used to deca being one of the safest, but now reading these forums there bad mouthing deca alot... deca dick aside lol! im just looking for a safe cycle...
 
you've been working out steady for 3 mos and hit a wall??? i'd say tweak the diet.
 
You have the rest of your life to put on some size. Keep your health in check.
I outgrow a lot of guys who are on just by my diet alone.
 
sr20detb13 said:
ok ok i know most of you are going to say wtf? dont use steroids at all... ive had a kidney issue since birth i believe, may have been back from when i used dbol, or cypionate. but i dont think so. ive been off for about 4 years now, and have been working out stedily for about 3 months. gained a good amount, but have hit a physical block, not gaining any more wieght, nor strength.... so my question to you, what type of steroid is considerd safer on the kidneys? i was always used to deca being one of the safest, but now reading these forums there bad mouthing deca alot... deca dick aside lol! im just looking for a safe cycle...

Can you elaborate on your 'kidney issues'? are we talking about minor kidney stones or kidney falling out?
 
WTF? dude 3 months aint shit. Whats your diet cus it probally sucks. Not bashing you at all, but a good diet will do wonders my man. Give the diet a shot then run a cycle.
 
gettinripped said:
you've been working out steady for 3 mos and hit a wall??? i'd say tweak the diet.

Amen. I too have a kidney ailment and even been rushed to the hospital because of it...I am in almost constant contact with my renal guy and he is aware of anything I do...keep it very safe dude.

I really wanna run Tren in my next one but am having trouble getting thru to him LOL
 
i should have reworded that... no im no where near my physical block.. thats not what i meant, im to the point where i have to jump on a good diet in order to start gaining more. and frankly a good diet can be just as harmful on my kidneys as steroids are... i cant intake to much protien. what i meant was im to the point where my body is ready to start a cycle... my kidney condition is called hydronephrosis, spelling might be off. which means i have a kidney that does not function.. doctors cant tell how long its been off but they say its most likely since birth.. i have taken 3 cycles before. with no serious side effects, nor pain in my kidney when im on... when i drink alchol though its a differnt story. i can barley move... but while on a cycle ive never had a kidney pain/issue. it was 2 years after my last cycle that i found out my kidney was bad... im going to see a doctor and ask there side of it. ofcourse there going to say no juice! im not tryin to push my luck at all. i care more about living long than living short but strong lol! so no matter what health is at the top of my list. thats why i wanted some people to elaborate on some of the less harmful products i might be able to try...

thanks alot guys...
 
wait till you hear what the doctor says, what exactly the issues are and prognosis is. then do everything you can to repair what damage you can. THEN consider a cycle, one where kidney care and water intake are preemminent
 
sr20detb13 said:
i should have reworded that... no im no where near my physical block.. thats not what i meant, im to the point where i have to jump on a good diet in order to start gaining more. and frankly a good diet can be just as harmful on my kidneys as steroids are... i cant intake to much protien. what i meant was im to the point where my body is ready to start a cycle... my kidney condition is called hydronephrosis, spelling might be off. which means i have a kidney that does not function.. doctors cant tell how long its been off but they say its most likely since birth.. i have taken 3 cycles before. with no serious side effects, nor pain in my kidney when im on... when i drink alchol though its a differnt story. i can barley move... but while on a cycle ive never had a kidney pain/issue. it was 2 years after my last cycle that i found out my kidney was bad... im going to see a doctor and ask there side of it. ofcourse there going to say no juice! im not tryin to push my luck at all. i care more about living long than living short but strong lol! so no matter what health is at the top of my list. thats why i wanted some people to elaborate on some of the less harmful products i might be able to try...

thanks alot guys...


I have a serious question for you, no need to answer, just think about it. Are steroids worth risking your life? (think about that for a while). In your case, I would not suggest steroid use due to negative health consequences.
 
galaxy said:
Ask Don Long, I hear hes making a comeback.

I've emailed Don 20 or so times the last few years...I haven't spoken to him in a while...I'll see what he says about this
 
It the diuretics and dieting that pose more risk to your kidneys than a little deca or test would. Flex blames the diuretics for his problems. and i would have to guess hes right.
 
Dieselicious said:
I cant suggest for you bro. I will only say whatever you decide - drink a shit load of water a day.

Good Luck.

Actually drinking excess water is bad for a kidney that is diseased. People with kidney disease are told to drink very specific amounts of water to avoid this problem.
 
bro please dont take this the wrong way!...but you have one kidney that works and one that doesnt...if you take something that has damaging effects on kidneys its gonna be twice as bad on your one good kidney!...your one kidney will be working twice as hard!...are steroids worth dieing over?...you really need to think this over and make the only sensible choice...especially if you have a wife and kids bro!
 
well im jumpin on a dbol and trem cycle next week to see how it goes. just kidding... no im with you all... i would never risk my life.. thats why i wonderd if there where some steroids that have close to 0 kidney effects... so say that nadralone actually is used by some doctors to help rebuild kidney function... but yea its all around a bad idea... it really bothers me that i cant take working out serious, working out is almost all your diet. and thats one of the biggesst things i cant persue.. well i guess im going to just have to go for the cut "inshape" look. running, eating like a woman, and hardd training.. thanks guys!
 
sr20detb13 said:
well im jumpin on a dbol and trem cycle next week to see how it goes. just kidding... no im with you all... i would never risk my life.. thats why i wonderd if there where some steroids that have close to 0 kidney effects... so say that nadralone actually is used by some doctors to help rebuild kidney function... but yea its all around a bad idea... it really bothers me that i cant take working out serious, working out is almost all your diet. and thats one of the biggesst things i cant persue.. well i guess im going to just have to go for the cut "inshape" look. running, eating like a woman, and hardd training.. thanks guys!

You're probably one of the only reasonable newbies I've seen here in years - good call bro, K for you. ;)
 
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