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well my good freind on the West Coast is taking his first cycle of GT products. This freind was all about QV. Anyway long story short he said this stuff rocks. He is seeing vascualrity and hardness and has put on about 10 lean pounds. Think he has been on about 4 1/2 weeks. He did mention he has sore nipples so he added some Nolvadex. he said no pain with or after injections and gives it two thumbs up.
 
GET THE FUCK OUTTA TOWN!!!

Are you kidding me dali?

I know that IP sells "jugs", which are large volumes of juice. I guess these could easily be re-bottled with new stickers on them.

I have never used GT, but for some reason, it has just lost a lot of appeal to me all of a sudden.
 
dali said:
are you aware that GT products are rebottled IP gear
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Really? Is this a rumor or a fact? Anyway, Ive heard IP's quality improved recently.
 
I wouldn't kid you bro. From on canuck to another there are numerous so-called underground labs out there that are rebottling gear. It just makes more sense to go right to the source.
 
I have heard the same thing JA, but it is still a scam of sorts. IP has fucked up on numerous occasions, whats to say it wont ever happen again?
 
Yeah guys, this is something that's been going on for a while now. IP gear has greatly improved. For a guy whose been around as long as him he's not gonna offer bad products although some of his stuff was underdosed in the past.
 
No shit eh? I do agree ... if you want to use IP gear, the less hands that it passes through, the better.

Your a Canuck living in China? What are you doing over there bro? Did you make the move to dine on the fine powders and raw materials over there? hehehe

Mavy
 
Mavy said:
I have heard the same thing JA, but it is still a scam of sorts. IP has fucked up on numerous occasions, whats to say it wont ever happen again?
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That's prpobably why they are rebottling their gear under different labels. Sort of like a fresh start. IP doesnt have the best rep but they've been around the longest. It would be easier for them to rebottle under a different name that doesn't have such a checkered past.
 
Ya. Underdosing I can live with, at least its not harmful. People getting dbol when they are told it is Anavar is a little different, and people going to the hospital from injections? I have used the guys winny and had great luck with it. Supposedly the winny is his "claim to fame", but as things stand right now, I have no need to try his injects and would not go out of my way to buy some.
 
Mavy said:
No shit eh? I do agree ... if you want to use IP gear, the less hands that it passes through, the better.

Your a Canuck living in China? What are you doing over there bro? Did you make the move to dine on the fine powders and raw materials over there? hehehe

Mavy
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Mavy,
I came over here in March of 2000. I was in the middle of a lay-off from training, but after a yr or so I got back in the gym. By then my mandarin was pretty solid too so I was able to source locally for supps. It's been 4 yrs now and I'm still loving it.
I make it back to the Toronto area once or twice every yr.

regards
 
Juice Authority said:
That's prpobably why they are rebottling their gear under different labels. Sort of like a fresh start. IP doesnt have the best rep but they've been around the longest. It would be easier for them to rebottle under a different name that doesn't have such a checkered past.
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I agree completely. But its still good to know about this. If I were him, I would completely wipe the IP name clear and start fresh. A few labs do this. I believe that Quest is the old LFC.

Anyways, its good to know.
 
I'll try to find out some more boys. I know of another lab that IP was labelling under; it was Shanghai Labs. There are also numerous UG labs in the Cali area who are rebottling. Not a bad thing, just a way for you bros to get your shit.
 
dali said:
Mavy,
I came over here in March of 2000. I was in the middle of a lay-off from training, but after a yr or so I got back in the gym. By then my mandarin was pretty solid too so I was able to source locally for supps. It's been 4 yrs now and I'm still loving it.
I make it back to the Toronto area once or twice every yr.

regards
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Cool bro. Sounds like quite the experience. Must be quite an eye-opener. I guess I know who is in the loop for things in that part of the world. hehehe.

I almost wonder if hubei is re-packaged IP gear. I have used the var before and liked it. If so ... someone went through a lot of trouble to package that shit. Looks very professional. Kinda sounds like IP runs the show a little over there.

Mavy
 
Mavy said:
Cool bro. Sounds like quite the experience. Must be quite an eye-opener. I guess I know who is in the loop for things in that part of the world. hehehe.

I almost wonder if hubei is re-packaged IP gear. I have used the var before and liked it. If so ... someone went through a lot of trouble to package that shit. Looks very professional. Kinda sounds like IP runs the show a little over there.

Mavy
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IP = Chinese mafia
 
I've done some research into the Hubei Huangshi Nanshang Pharmaceutical Co. and you know what I came up with? Absolutely nothing so I guess that answers your inquiry. Between me, my local bodybuilding friends and other people in the pharmaceutical trade we couldn't find one company in Hubei province that make oxandrolone in tablet form.
 
dali said:
I've done some research into the Hubei Huangshi Nanshang Pharmaceutical Co. and you know what I came up with? Absolutely nothing so I guess that answers your inquiry. Between me, my local bodybuilding friends and other people in the pharmaceutical trade we couldn't find one company in Hubei province that make oxandrolone in tablet form.
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How about them apples....
 
I remember searching on the web for hubei before, and it only brought up bodybuilding forums.

Fuck ... those hubeis werent cheap either.... BUT IP GEAR IS. grrrr!!

I would say its a sage bet. I wonder how involved the guy is in the powder business.
 
I've tryed to pry into IP's business, but I don't want to end up in the bottom of a river if you know what I mean.
 
I here you bro. Im sure he would love to kung-fu my ass after all the shit I have said about him. I always praised your winny though IP, just incase you are reading. hahahaha. And i never believed the rumor that you created SARS either.

Mavy
 
could very well be rebottle but its effective as I was told and thats what the post was about. There are amny UG that come and go this being one thats been around for a while and as long as we tell each other what we here works and does not work this gives us knowledge to make the right choices.
 
dali said:
I've done some research into the Hubei Huangshi Nanshang Pharmaceutical Co. and you know what I came up with? Absolutely nothing so I guess that answers your inquiry. Between me, my local bodybuilding friends and other people in the pharmaceutical trade we couldn't find one company in Hubei province that make oxandrolone in tablet form.
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you're a total moron!

first off, i can assure you GTP isnt rebottled IP gear.
second, i have a direct contact with hubei.

so buzz off!
 
satchboogie said:
you're a total moron!

first off, i can assure you GTP isnt rebottled IP gear.
second, i have a direct contact with hubei.

so buzz off!
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Thanks for clearing that up Satch-man. Much appreciated.

And since Im here, could you go as far as to say that nothing from
GTP is rebottled from another company? Thus being manufactured wholly by GTP.
 
flexed1 said:
could very well be rebottle but its effective as I was told and thats what the post was about. There are amny UG that come and go this being one thats been around for a while and as long as we tell each other what we here works and does not work this gives us knowledge to make the right choices.
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That should be the point!!I wouldnt care if its rebottled as long as it is dosed properly and its the correct compound in the bottle..however satch's opinion holds more sway in my book (no offense dali)
 
satchboogie said:
you're a total moron!

first off, i can assure you GTP isnt rebottled IP gear.
second, i have a direct contact with hubei.

so buzz off!
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WTF are you talking about Snatchface? Until you've been over here, don't claim to be an expert on the goings on in China. You may have a direct contact with Hubei, but I'll tell you there's no legit company registered by the name they're selling under.

I'm not flaming anyone on this thread. I started off by saying IP's gear is quality stuff. If it ends up in a bottle with a different label, who gives a fuck. I never said the anavar by the mysterious Hubei Huangshi Nanshang Co. was bunk. It's good shit but definitely made by a company of a different name.

And Satch, it seems like you're afraid of people finding out the truth. Sounds like you're a man protecting his territory. Remember competition is healthy.

cheers boys
 
TADHealth said:
Thanks for clearing that up Satch-man. Much appreciated.

And since Im here, could you go as far as to say that nothing from
GTP is rebottled from another company? Thus being manufactured wholly by GTP.
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i dont know nothing about anything..
go on with the thread boys.
 
All I can say is if it was rebottled I would think they would resemble Ttokkyos bottles that had slightly different ammounts in each one. All the ones I have are perfectly even. I'll know in a few weeks how the tren enanathate works since I'm getting ready to start a summer cycle. I'll keep you guys posted.
 
Latamier said:
All I can say is if it was rebottled I would think they would resemble Ttokkyos bottles that had slightly different ammounts in each one. All the ones I have are perfectly even. I'll know in a few weeks how the tren enanathate works since I'm getting ready to start a summer cycle. I'll keep you guys posted.
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How do you plan on running the tren enanthate??
 
Not quite sure yet on the dose. I will be stacking it with 1000mg/week of sust, 30mg/day dbol first 5 weeks and probably 600mg/week of Eq the last 5-6 weeks. I'm looking at about a 5-6 month cycle so I'll probably end up using 1/2cc of tren EOD. Thats probably a little high, at 125mg of tren EOD especially with it being an enanathate which has a longer half life, so the dosage may have to be adjusted mid cycle. I'll keep you all posted.
 
dali said:
WTF are you talking about Snatchface? Until you've been over here, don't claim to be an expert on the goings on in China. You may have a direct contact with Hubei, but I'll tell you there's no legit company registered by the name they're selling under.

I'm not flaming anyone on this thread. I started off by saying IP's gear is quality stuff. If it ends up in a bottle with a different label, who gives a fuck. I never said the anavar by the mysterious Hubei Huangshi Nanshang Co. was bunk. It's good shit but definitely made by a company of a different name.

And Satch, it seems like you're afraid of people finding out the truth. Sounds like you're a man protecting his territory. Remember competition is healthy.

cheers boys
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Is GTP rebottled IP gear?? You stated that it was so please back that up.
 
Bump, very curious about this whole IP speculation. I personally dont believe it is. GTP has treated me very well with excellent results.
 
On day 2 of GT tren enanathate. So far no pain and hopefully gains will kick in shortly. I'm happy so far. If it were rebottled IP gear I would be worried about having an abscess right about now.
 
Juice Authority said:
Is GTP rebottled IP gear?? You stated that it was so please back that up.
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Hey Juice,

I was just stating the obvious about GTP. If they were actually coming out of China, don't you think there'd be some chinese on the labelling? And I have a couple good friends who are local Chinese and competitive bodybuilders that live in Hefei, Anhui where GTP claims to be from. They have never heard of them.

I've never said that GTP's products are sub-standard. The IP thing is just a theory and GTP is not the only lab being accused of rebottling gear.

One thing that's for sure though is GTP is NOT in China.

cheers mate
 
GTP has always been legit, the biggest problem is that his bottles look like shit for gear that is so pricey.

But I have never gotten an infection from any of his gear, and it has always been very effective. I highly doubt he has anything to do with IP, he does not even carry all of IP's products. And I believe there are only two distributors. One of them being the most honest guy around.

You do the math
 
supervet said:
GTP has always been legit, the biggest problem is that his bottles look like shit for gear that is so pricey.

But I have never gotten an infection from any of his gear, and it has always been very effective. I highly doubt he has anything to do with IP, he does not even carry all of IP's products. And I believe there are only two distributors. One of them being the most honest guy around.

You do the math
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I agree with one of the distributors being one of the most honest and now very close friends I have in the bodybuilding scene. You know who you are. Their tren enanathate in 250mg/ml was awesome. Virtually no pain and really great gains. Only thing I didnt care for were the night sweats, but that happens to me with any type of tren.
 
I know the bro you make reference to and trust him 110%.....good ass dude.....I was just curious about GT.......in general........
 
GTP products are awesome:

1)I have used GTP eq, test, and tren enan. As Latamier says, I believe the tren enanthate to be the most amazing cycle I've ever done. I put 10 pounds on my frame, with tremendous vascularity, pump, and leanness to the gains. This has not happened since the early sust cycles! Their quality is unquestioned.

2) I have used many IP products (inject), the same as in #1. I have both. The IP products do not have the same sting (BA/BB) ratio as the GTP, and spectrometer readings of equi-concentration samples are different. Hell, they even look different-colored to the naked eye. GTP gear cannot therefore logically be rebottled IP gear. This is not factually true.

3) The population of Hubei, China in 2000 was 59.60 million. Dali does not know the one guy bottling and filtering powders in his basement to give to a few distributors. Considering that this represents 1 millionth a percent of the population, this is not too astonishing. He may very well exist, not be chinese himself, and not choose to distribute in china, but, say, only on trips to europe. He may be in hubei, he may not. But dali's testimony on the 59.6 million individual inhabitants of the region and their covert activities at all hours of the day does not carry a lot of weight.
 
majutsu said:
GTP products are awesome:

1)I have used GTP eq, test, and tren enan. As Latamier says, I believe the tren enanthate to be the most amazing cycle I've ever done. I put 10 pounds on my frame, with tremendous vascularity, pump, and leanness to the gains. This has not happened since the early sust cycles! Their quality is unquestioned.

2) I have used many IP products (inject), the same as in #1. I have both. The IP products do not have the same sting (BA/BB) ratio as the GTP, and spectrometer readings of equi-concentration samples are different. Hell, they even look different-colored to the naked eye. GTP gear cannot therefore logically be rebottled IP gear. This is not factually true.

3) The population of Hubei, China in 2000 was 59.60 million. Dali does not know the one guy bottling and filtering powders in his basement to give to a few distributors. Considering that this represents 1 millionth a percent of the population, this is not too astonishing. He may very well exist, not be chinese himself, and not choose to distribute in china, but, say, only on trips to europe. He may be in hubei, he may not. But dali's testimony on the 59.6 million individual inhabitants of the region and their covert activities at all hours of the day does not carry a lot of weight.
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Hey bro,

I love difference of opinion. That's what makes these boards interesting.

One correction for you though; GTP claims to be out of Hefei, Anhui, not Hubei.

cheers
 
dali said:
I've done some research into the Hubei Huangshi Nanshang Pharmaceutical Co. and you know what I came up with? Absolutely nothing so I guess that answers your inquiry. Between me, my local bodybuilding friends and other people in the pharmaceutical trade we couldn't find one company in Hubei province that make oxandrolone in tablet form.
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You brought up hubei province bro, remember?

But substitute the population of whatever area in China you want to talk about having researched now. . .
 
dali said:
what does population have to do with what we were talking about?
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Because there are too many people ANYWHERE in China for your limited knowledge to be all-encompassing. So, it doesn't matter that you don't know of the guy, it doesn't mean that he's not there.
 
wend said:
Because there are too many people ANYWHERE in China for your limited knowledge to be all-encompassing. So, it doesn't matter that you don't know of the guy, it doesn't mean that he's not there.
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I never claimed to be all-encompassing. Sure there are boatloads of people in China, but that doesn't mean they're all in the business of making gear.

You'd be surprised how small the industry is. If you were here you'd understand.

Again, for the record I never made any derogitory statements regarding GTP or Hubei Huangshi's prods. I just wanted to make it clear to those that didn't know that these two outfits are UG companies.

cheers
 
Its a fact about hubei. A bit of a scam in a sense, in that the customer is paying pharm grade prices for UG gear. The stuff was made and packaged by a famous powder and tab source in China. There was an exclusive distribution deal with a large eastern european source ( who chose the company name and packaging design ) . If you email the guy in China who used to make tabs for Brit Dragon he'll tell you the same info.

The product is still of high quality and did indeed use european oxandrolone. The packaging was just a simple move to make it worth more on the blackmarket.

GTP: There was never any doubt in my mind that GTP was an UG lab. I am just curious to know if it is re-bottles IP gear. I mean it really makes a lot of sense. IP "jugs", are DIRT CHEAP! Buying these jugs in bulk and re-bottling them under a different name is a brilliant idea, and still leaves a lot of room for profit. This is not the first I have heard of this happening. I heard there is an UG lab based out of California that does the exact same thing. Very smart on the Chinamans part as well. People will talk trash about IP prods, but then praise GTP prods ... meanwhile the chinaman is laughing his ass off at silly Northamerican man! lol.

The Chinese, the freakin Russians, and even the Britts, have realised that they can trick silly North American men in this field quite easily! :qt:
 
im having good success with GTP so I dont care if it comes from China or Compton as long as it stays clean and effective

maybe its IP's "luxury Line" of AS...kinda how toyota has lexus, honda has acura, and nissan infiniti.... :lmao:
 
MyBodyIsMyTemple said:
maybe its IP's "luxury Line" of AS...kinda how toyota has lexus, honda has acura, and nissan infiniti.... :lmao:
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GTP is good quality. I believe it is a UG lab independent of IP. I certainly don't care where it comes from, but don't think anyone but the man and the 2 distributors can say with certainly where it's really from, even china. I would imagine a chinese or indian origin (where the powders are) is likely.

That all said, that quote about IP's luxury line is some funny shit! ;)
 
hhmmm ... why would you bump a 6 month old post, .... to be your 1st POST?

Interesting to say the least.
 
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