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Lao Tzu

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I heard a few months ago that kuwait gave its citizens a stipend just for living there, but i had no idea of the benefits the country offered, at least according to 60 minutes.


an average workday of 3 hours (10am-1pm)
free education
free medical care
no taxes
a government stipend just for being alive


hot damn. i'd never live there, but it sounds kinda nice.
 
Sounds like they patterned their benefits from the U.S. welfare compensation benefit package except they included working three hours a day!
 
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nordstrom said:
I heard a few months ago that kuwait gave its citizens a stipend just for living there, but i had no idea of the benefits the country offered, at least according to 60 minutes.


an average workday of 3 hours (10am-1pm)
free education
free medical care
no taxes
a government stipend just for being alive


hot damn. i'd never live there, but it sounds kinda nice.

Free education, shorter workdays, and free medical care are entitlements every civilized nation ought to give to its citizens.

However, the "no taxes" part is a problem. For example, who foots the bill when other countries, such as Iraq, attempt to acquire Kuwait? The United States, along with other nations, is left to spend its own money to defend Kuwait. (Recall, the Gulf War).
 
HumorMe said:
Sounds like they patterned their benefits from the U.S. welfare compensation benefit package except they included working three hours a day!



You need to look beyond the borders. America is just another country, i think our welfare system is no more liberal than many other 1st world countries.

Social security 400 billion
medicaid/medicare 400 billion
corporate welfare 150 billion
student welfare 60 billion
ADFC 44 billion


Ryan- i agree taxes are necessary, but it is an interesting thing, how diverse the world can be.
 
Also, what does it take to be a citizen?
I remember seeing something that said you don't qualify just by being born there. I'm not sure what qualifies you or what you have to do to qualify.
 
nordstrom said:




You need to look beyond the borders. America is just another country, i think our welfare system is no more liberal than many other 1st world countries.


True but our system is abused so much to the point that we could do so much more to help those who truly need it. I'm all for helping people but there needs to be more emphasis put on weeding out those who do not need it or deserve it.


Sorry to hijack your thread I will shut up now.
 
nordstrom said:




You need to look beyond the borders. America is just another country, i think our welfare system is no more liberal than many other 1st world countries.

Social security 400 billion
medicaid/medicare 400 billion
corporate welfare 150 billion
student welfare 60 billion
ADFC 44 billion


Ryan- i agree taxes are necessary, but it is an interesting thing, how diverse the world can be.

Our "welfare system" is not as expensive per capita in comparison to many other countries (i.e., some of the European nations). Look at the benefits a strong welfare system brings---better health for all citizens, a more educated citizenry, and a happier, less-crime ridden society. However, many conservatives simply can't see the forest for the trees, and want to give nothing back to society, except moral regulations.

Thomas Jefferson warned against what the United States has become: greedy capitalism, left unchecked. Too bad, so many Americans still haven't heard his warning.
 
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RyanH said:


Free education, shorter workdays, and free medical care are entitlements every civilized nation ought to give to its citizens.

However, the "no taxes" part is a problem. For example, who foots the bill when other countries, such as Iraq, attempt to acquire Kuwait? The United States, along with other nations, is left to spend its own money to defend Kuwait. (Recall, the Gulf War).

i will agree with the free education, but i will have to disagree on the fee healthcare, but i will say affordable healthcare is an entitlement. shorter workdays, that'd be nice but at what cost? i'd rather work my 8 hrs and know i'm getting my full pay rather than work 3 and only get 3 hrs worth.

yes, taxes are needed. just not high taxes.

good post though nord, i did'nt know that about kuwait.
 
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Sushi X said:


i will agree with the free education, but i will have to disagree on the fee healthcare, but i will say affordable healthcare is an entitlement. shorter workdays, that'd be nice but at what cost? i'd rather work my 8 hrs and know i'm getting my full pay rather than work 3 and only get 3 hrs worth.

yes, taxes are needed. just not high taxes.

good post though nord, i did'nt know that about kuwait.

What image do you think the United States portrays by being teh wealthiest country in the world but still having millions of children and adults without healthcare? Further, what do you think are the social, policy consequences of allowing so many Americans to go without healthcare?

Also, consider: the United States contributions in foreign aid to impoverished nations pales in comparison to contributions from other nations (i.e., Germany).
 
my biggest concern is with fee healthcare where does the money come from to pay for it? will it be quality healthcare? as a person going into the nrusing field it also concerns me that i will not get paid fairly and what kind of working conditions will there be?

i'd be all for it if i knew for certain we'd still get quality healthcare, and those who work in that field would get paid fairly and still have a decent work enviroments. i see you point ryan and agree it sucks so many are without the means to recieve good healthcare, myself included. i have to pay for what i can afford and sometimes not even go see a doctor when i should.
 
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