Got them at GNC, part of the Met Rx thermicore line that they are pushing hardcore. You have to take 10 a day though, and this still only gets you 5 g. kinda weak
the orange flavor is fine, but for the size of them i should be getting more than 5 g. if i gotta put down 10 a day, it doesn't say anything about an empty stomach or not , but i should probably be doing that too.