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Onebadmofo

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I know the stuff used to be legal in Florida. Does anyone know if it's legal to buy anywhere (or not legal). Drinking screws up your test levels while juicing and I don't want to stay sober for 12 weeks (even longer). I've heard GHB is actually good for your muscles ... so if anyone knows something please let me know, thanks!
 
Yeah bro its illegal in the US, so are any of its derivatives under the RICO act, that means 1,4 bute, gbl. if they want to prosecute you they can.
 
if you get caught it with its = to having heroin........good luck ashcroft is really serious about controlling the use of that drug
 
Onebadmofo said:
I know the stuff used to be legal in Florida. Does anyone know if it's legal to buy anywhere (or not legal). Drinking screws up your test levels while juicing and I don't want to stay sober for 12 weeks (even longer). I've heard GHB is actually good for your muscles ... so if anyone knows something please let me know, thanks!

It is not legal any place and probably does nothing for your muscles. You should read up more on it. See:

http://www.brinkzone.com/qanda8.html
 
its not worth the trouble.. until the government changes their stance on GHB.. the risk is pretty high.

though agree that it is certainly better for you than alcohol..

stay away from 1,4 it is VERY ADDICTIVE..

if you find your self taking it during the day.. STOP IMMEADIATELY.. you are addicted.. (well that a bit OT, but you should get the general idea)
 
it does help sleep, but why take the risk, there are alot of other things you can sue xanax, ativan,klonopin, roofies,valium ketmaine, etc. ad they are way easier to get. very easy
 
I never fucked with it, but now I know I will never fuck with it. Too much heat surrounding that drug.
 
I work in a hospital aand I constantly see guys and gals coming in fucked up on that shit. Have to put them on breathing machines. That's one drug I won't go near!!!!!!
 
Actually, 1,4 is not covered by the analog act. That act was ruled unconstitutionally vague in Roberts vs. US, NY, on September 9 of this year.

I would guess that if you order 1,4 you will still get some heat, but do your research and you will find that you cannot be prosecuted legally for possession of this substance, as long as you are not intending to consume it or sell it for such purpose.

I agree that 1,4 is a very poor substitute for GHB, and it is far more stressful on the body. GHB actually increases the amount of NaDH in the liver, suggesting that it might help liver function. It is widely believed that it also is good for the kidneys in appropriate doses.

1,4 is easily converted to GHB, by the way...but of course, THAT is illegal.

In fact, MSG (monosodium glutamate) can be converted to GHB in two steps (well, actually one complicated step not really suited for the kitchen).

I was elated to have recently discovered a very easy conversion of GABA to GHB. The yield is low, but that doesn't matter, because I do not actually perform any such conversions, due to the fact that to do so would be illegal. I just thought it was funny that this conversion will most likely become widely known, and I am wondering what the government's reaction to this one will be.

Incidentally, all those visits to the emergency room involving GHB and breathing machines...I doubt that GHB is the actual culprit there. My guess is that there is always another substance involved, generally alcohol. Also, hospitals tend to panic when patients in a GHB induced state of unarousability are admitted. The fact is that only 78 deaths have been attributed to GHB, according to the DEA.

That ain't many.
 
So before we know it, everyone will be rushing out to the Chinese restaurant with the most MSG saturated food, and converting their chop suey into GHB?? Funny but interesting
 
BullGod said:
Hypothetically: how is it possible to convert GABA to GHB??


Butyric acid to hyrdoxy-butyrate

You have to hydrolize the GABA.(Total guess here)

Using NaOH maybe?

I have no idea.

Fonz
 
This will give you a place to start...

A novel root to GHB - Help needed.

Oh my dear friends!

I am fully aware of the fact that this is probably of lilltle interest to most of you but i really need some help with this. Being a non-american and even a non-european , i have virtually no access to any of the common for y'all GHB precursors - at least the ones that have been discussed here. Maybe someone remembers my post about a possible synth of it from piracetam. Fortunately, it has been almost totally neglected - fortunately, because now i won't have to spend a fortune for my (long dreamt of) dream - i hope so, at least.
Today i found out that sodium glutamate, a common taste enhancer, is freely available OTC at a ridiculous price in my neiborhood's grocery store. Immediately the following synth outline formed itself inside my head:

GluNa ----> GluCa ----> decarbox to GABA -----> Nitrous deazotiz-n to 70% GBL + 30 % GHB -----> GHB

Now i have an important question: could someone enlighten me on proper aliphatic aminoacid decarbox-n?

I've read all that stuff about decarboxing tryptophane, but - alas - no cyclohexanone or tetraline for me, ever and for sure. I'm quite positive, though, that it can be done w/no solvent - smth like GluCa w/a strong base - seen it briefly mentioned smwhere.


Does anyone know this rxn ?

What are the right temps?

Can NaGlu be used straight istead of Ca?



If all works out soon we will know if it's possible to make GHB from GABA - i can freely get as much NaNO2 as i wish.
Might be useful for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. world bees as well as, possibly, for the generations to come.


...anyway, why don't you email me, Fonz? Perhaps I can refer you to a more detailed discussion of this issue.
 
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