GHB & DBOL...Any side effects?

[Big Nipper]

Will it dehydrate you more? What about muscle loss due to GHB? GHB is non toxic to your liver right?

 

[genarr3]

We don't discuss Schedule I drugs here.

 

[notatrase]

Will it dehydrate you more? What about muscle loss due to GHB? GHB is non toxic to your liver right?

Absolutely, bro; and if you take it consistently, you'll look like a puffer-fish.

Your best bet is to stay away. I am sure you have heard this before and are thinking "ahhh bullshit, it's harmless";;;BULLSHIT!
Keep on taking that god-forsaken shit, and see what it will turn you into, bro...A FUCKING DRUGHEAD! You are playing with FIRE, and this is coming from someone who used to be in your shoes. Now, I won't touch that shit with a fucking ten foot pole.
Almost makes me sick to think about it!

SLOW YOUR ROLL, BRO; YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID IN THE FUTURE.

 

[Snoop]

I definately would recommend not taking it daily, but if you have GHB it is easier on the liver than GBL or 1,4 bute. Just be responsible and you'll be fine.

 

[Big Johnson]

Re: Re: GHB & DBOL...Any side effects?

Absolutely, bro; and if you take it consistently, you'll look like a puffer-fish.

Your best bet is to stay away. I am sure you have heard this before and are thinking "ahhh bullshit, it's harmless";;;BULLSHIT!
Keep on taking that god-forsaken shit, and see what it will turn you into, bro...A FUCKING DRUGHEAD! You are playing with FIRE, and this is coming from someone who used to be in your shoes. Now, I won't touch that shit with a fucking ten foot pole.
Almost makes me sick to think about it!

SLOW YOUR ROLL, BRO; YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID IN THE FUTURE.

Karma for the truth

 

[Fukkenshredded]

GHB is NOT stressful to the liver in any way. It is a far safer drug than D-bol. It does require a high level of awareness. Doses should be taken at least five hours apart to avoid dopamine build-up. Also, dosing daily can be problematic with regard to acidosis and dopamine build-up, the combination of which will closely mimic withdrawal symptoms if you stop cold turkey. Take one day off a week, one week off a month, and one month off a year. My suggestion is to dose only at night. That way dopamine build-up cannot occur.

Your biggest risk with GHB is legal.

The talk of pufferfish look might be true with regard to D-bol, but you will not get that with quality GHB or GBL. Water retention can be avoided by taking in a potassium suppement, or just drinking plenty of grapefruit juice.

I recommend taking in 4-6 ounces of wheatgrass a day, plus one whole lemon, to avoid metabolic acidosis. This is particularly important if you are taking GBL, as acidosis occurs much faster with this compound.

All dosing should be done with a syringe, precisely measured.

If your threshold dose increases beyond a factor of .5, you need to stop use for at least seven days. Taking off two days a week will prevent this from happening in the first place, though.

As far as GHB turning you into a druggie--

It might rreveal the fact that you are a druggie, but it won't create one. It isn't crack, it isn't physically addicting. It can be habit forming, and the symptoms above upon cessation if used TOO FREQUENTLY OVER LONG PERIODS OF TIME have created the myth of physical addiction, but since we know that there ar no metabolites, we know that physical addiction is not possible (in the clinical sense).

Habituation + acidosis/dopamine tremors looks like physical addiction.

I agree that GHB is only for the responsible, but then again, so are steroids.

Just be careful with G, bro...if you are busted with it, you are GONE.

 

[Animal]

What a classic answer!

Of ignorance! How in the hell would you know if the country he is in is legal for GHB use or if he has a script for xyrem.

Way to make an ass out of yourself. You can see a recipe on my site on how to make it from GABA. BTW, for the retards who know nothing about the law, GBL and 1,4 only become illegal when taken for human use.

www.animalkits.be

 

[Juice Authority]

GHB is NOT stressful to the liver in any way. It is a far safer drug than D-bol. It does require a high level of awareness. Doses should be taken at least five hours apart to avoid dopamine build-up. Also, dosing daily can be problematic with regard to acidosis and dopamine build-up, the combination of which will closely mimic withdrawal symptoms if you stop cold turkey. Take one day off a week, one week off a month, and one month off a year. My suggestion is to dose only at night. That way dopamine build-up cannot occur.

Your biggest risk with GHB is legal.

The talk of pufferfish look might be true with regard to D-bol, but you will not get that with quality GHB or GBL. Water retention can be avoided by taking in a potassium suppement, or just drinking plenty of grapefruit juice.

I recommend taking in 4-6 ounces of wheatgrass a day, plus one whole lemon, to avoid metabolic acidosis. This is particularly important if you are taking GBL, as acidosis occurs much faster with this compound.

All dosing should be done with a syringe, precisely measured.

If your threshold dose increases beyond a factor of .5, you need to stop use for at least seven days. Taking off two days a week will prevent this from happening in the first place, though.

As far as GHB turning you into a druggie--

It might rreveal the fact that you are a druggie, but it won't create one. It isn't crack, it isn't physically addicting. It can be habit forming, and the symptoms above upon cessation if used TOO FREQUENTLY OVER LONG PERIODS OF TIME have created the myth of physical addiction, but since we know that there ar no metabolites, we know that physical addiction is not possible (in the clinical sense).

Habituation + acidosis/dopamine tremors looks like physical addiction.

I agree that GHB is only for the responsible, but then again, so are steroids.

Just be careful with G, bro...if you are busted with it, you are GONE.

This is not meant to be taken as a flame but come on...why the hell would recommend GHB to someone??? That's just plain irresponsible IMO.

First off, GHB is a Schedule 1, which makes it a crime to possess, manufacture, or sell GHB or its precursors, with up to 20 years jail time for it. It will be in the same drug class as heroin.

As for the information on GHB on the Internet, it is mostly biased toward "safe" GHB use, which is complete and utter nonsense. Unfortunately, all the valuable, medical information from reputable sources is toward the end of the search engine list. You CAN find them. Don’t be fooled by Internet GHB propaganda. Consider the source of the material.

 

[EngiCream]

This is not meant to be taken as a flame but come on...why the hell would recommend GHB to someone??? That's just plain irresponsible IMO.

First off, GHB is a Schedule 1, which makes it a crime to possess, manufacture, or sell GHB or its precursors, with up to 20 years jail time for it. It will be in the same drug class as heroin.

As for the information on GHB on the Internet, it is mostly biased toward "safe" GHB use, which is complete and utter nonsense. Unfortunately, all the valuable, medical information from reputable sources is toward the end of the search engine list. You CAN find them. Don’t be fooled by Internet GHB propaganda. Consider the source of the material.

You do know that GHB is also a schedule 3 drug...same as steroids.

And to imply that "Fukkenshredded" hasn't done his homework on this subject is "complete and utter nonsense".

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Re: What a classic answer!

BTW, for the retards who know nothing about the law, GBL and 1,4 only become illegal when taken for human use.

dont come to cali.. not quite the same.. you will find that it varies from state to state..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

btw- thats a very good way to get gyno stacking those two..

 

[Snoop]

I don't think anyone is recommending taking G, simply saying that if you're going to do it do it with caution and use discretion. It just sucks that people come on hear and post their opinions as fact. Just don't be judgemental of anyone, anything can be dangerous if not done responsibly.

 

[Juice Authority]

I don't think anyone is recommending taking G, simply saying that if you're going to do it do it with caution and use discretion. It just sucks that people come on hear and post their opinions as fact. Just don't be judgemental of anyone, anything can be dangerous if not done responsibly.

We shouldn't even be discussing the topic here as GHB is a "rec" drug.

 

[Juice Authority]

You do know that GHB is also a schedule 3 drug...same as steroids.

And to imply that "Fukkenshredded" hasn't done his homework on this subject is "complete and utter nonsense".

Wrong! GHB is a Schedule 1 and it's not the same as steriods! You Sir should a little more research on the topic before you "chime" in.

On Friday Feb 18, 2000, President Clinton signed the 'Hillory J. Farias and Samantha Reid Date-Rape Drug Prohibition Act of 2000'. According to the text of the Act, the Attorney General
of the United States is ordered to add GHB to the list of schedule I substances within 60 days of the passage of the act. The Attorney General performed this final step in mid-March.


GHB is a Schedule I substance in the United States. Schedule I substances are defined federally as :

A drug which as a high potential for abuse.
A drug which has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug under medical supervision.

GHB is Schedule I and Schedule III:

Additionally, gamma butyrlactone has become a List I Chemical federally and is scheduled in some states (california).

2002: The DEA engaged in a very active campaign to reduce GBL, GHB, and 1,4-buteanediol sales over the internet in 2002 and called their project Operation Webslinger. In late 2002, the DEA arrested a large number of people for buying and selling GBL over the internet.

 

[Snoop]

Actually the law on GHB varies, I know here in Louisiana it is a schedule II.

 

[Juice Authority]

The Drug Enforcement Administration, together with the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, U.S. Customs Service, Internal Revenue Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and the Ontario Police Department, announced the arrest of 115 individuals in 84 cities across the United States and Canada.

GHB, GBL, and 1, 4 Butanediol (1,4 BD) are abused to produce euphoria, intoxication, and hallucinogenic states, and for their alleged role as a muscle growth hormone. They are also used as "date rape" drugs, acting as central nervous system depressants. Odorless and colorless, the drugs cause drowsiness, dizziness, loss of consciousness, and loss of inhibition, as well as memory impairment--which can make the prosecution of rape cases difficult when victims are given these drugs. Higher doses of these substances will cause unconsciousness, seizures, severe respiratory depression, coma, and even death.

"This takedown is a dose of harsh reality for drug traffickers who seek to exploit the vast markets and anonymity of cyberspace," said Attorney General Ashcroft. "Our campuses, our neighborhoods, and our communities are safer places for young women today because cyberspace just got more dangerous for drug traffickers."

DEA Administrator Asa Hutchinson added, "With millions of people having quick and easy access to the internet, the buying and selling of deadly drugs and chemicals from the web should not, and will not, be as simple as point-and-click. E-traffickers can expect to face the same justice the old-fashioned drug dealers face."

This two-year investigation began as a result of increasing seizures of GBL and 1,4 BD. It represents law enforcement's most significant national operation targeting organizations trafficking in GHB, GBL, and 1,4 BD. Operation Webslinger is also the most significant enforcement effort targeting drug traffickers using the internet to buy and sell dangerous drugs and chemicals.

Operation Webslinger encompasses four primary investigations in St. Louis, MO; Detroit, MI and San Diego, CA; Mobile, AL and Sparta, TN; and Buffalo, NY and Quebec City, Canada. These investigations targeted individuals and organizations supplying large quantities of GHB, GBL, and/or 1,4 BD ordered over the internet and delivered by the mail. From these four investigations, agents developed leads that led to the identification and arrest of individuals across the country involved in buying and selling these drugs. All totaled, agents conducted enforcement operations in over 80 U.S. cities with drug seizures that could have yielded more than 25 million dosage units.

Chief U.S Postal Inspector Lee Heath added, "The nationwide sweep to apprehend the customers of Pelchat Labs began yesterday and is continuing. Postal Inspectors have made controlled deliveries in locations all over the country and more arrests are expected."

U.S. Customs Assistant Commissioner for Investigations John Varrone said, "Operation Webslinger was unprecedented in that it combined the best investigative techniques of numerous federal agencies and Canadian authorities. I am especially proud of the U.S. Customs agents in Buffalo who played a major role in this investigation. Customs agents seized more than 750 packages containing GBL, helped shut down an internet site selling this substance, seized three labs, and arrested 35 individuals."

FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, III stated, "This investigation strikes a blow to those who deal these drugs, which pose a danger to young people across the nation. Like any illicit drug, a consequence of use is death, and we will continue to work together with our law enforcement partners to combat this problem."

Operation Webslinger was coordinated by the Drug Enforcement Administration's joint law enforcement program called the Special Operations Division, which is comprised of agents and analysts from the DEA, FBI, USCS, and IRS, as well as attorneys from the Department of Justice's Criminal Division. Additionally, numerous state and local agencies across the United States provided invaluable service leading to the successful outcome of this operation.

For additional information, please contact Special Agents Will Glaspy or Thomas Hinojosa at DEA's Office of Public Affairs at (202) 307-7977.