Gh without insulin/t3...

[bigpat]

ok it will be my first gh utilization... i go with 2ui 1 hours before sleeping
im also taking test enanthate/durabolin/V pills/russian dbol.....

i know that without proper insulin gh is a waste of money, but i dont want to take chance with insulin and thyroids hormones...so what product can help me as a *insulin like* product ans how to take it ?

thx

 

[Makavelli]

ok it will be my first gh utilization... i go with 2ui 1 hours before sleeping
im also taking test enanthate/durabolin/V pills/russian dbol.....

i know that without proper insulin gh is a waste of money, but i dont want to take chance with insulin and thyroids hormones...so what product can help me as a *insulin like* product ans how to take it ?

thx

GH will work well with your other supps. Insulin is not necessary, although it will greatly enhance the effects of AAS and GH. You can use ALA though if you're worried about it.

 

[bigpat]

how are you taking ala...2pills per meal ?

 

[Alright123]

take glucorell rala with your meals while on GH

 

[bigpat]

take glucorell rala with your meals while on GH

thx... i know vanadyl is suppose to help with insulin too is that true

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

ok it will be my first gh utilization... i go with 2ui 1 hours before sleeping
im also taking test enanthate/durabolin/V pills/russian dbol.....

i know that without proper insulin gh is a waste of money, but i dont want to take chance with insulin and thyroids hormones...so what product can help me as a *insulin like* product ans how to take it ?

thx

does gh need to be taken 1 hr before sleeping or is that just personal preference?

 

[Makavelli]

does gh need to be taken 1 hr before sleeping or is that just personal preference?

Take it mid morning. Vanadyl won't do much. ALA is better.

 

[bigpat]

i take before sleeping because im working as a postman 6am to 2pm after im sleeping for 2-3hours ....eat around 6pm--and im train at 7:30pm too almost 9pm...and i dont what to sleep at my job , i know gh make *sleeping effect*.... if you can help me on that one go ahead..

 

[Makavelli]

i take before sleeping because im working as a postman 6am to 2pm after im sleeping for 2-3hours ....eat around 6pm--and im train at 7:30pm too almost 9pm...and i dont what to sleep at my job , i know gh make *sleeping effect*.... if you can help me on that one go ahead..

What's your question?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Take it mid morning. Vanadyl won't do much. ALA is better.

where can you get ALA?

 

[Alright123]

anafit sells glucorell rala

 

[Makavelli]

where can you get ALA?

Any nutrition store. ALA is short for alpha lipoic acid.

 

[bigpat]

What's your question?

why you said to take mid morning...is that a big difference
++ the ASTor SaN(http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product199.html)
rala is that ok if i dont have glucorell...im from Canada so im not sure if i can get some glucorell
thx

 

[canadianhitman]

You most certainly can get glucorell in Canada....there is a Canadian reseller:

http://organic-health.com/Merchant2...YP&Product_Code=856240000016&Category_Code=WL

 

[Makavelli]

why you said to take mid morning...is that a big difference
++ the ASTor SaN(http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product199.html)
rala is that ok if i dont have glucorell...im from Canada so im not sure if i can get some glucorell
thx

Mid morning is how the majority of my athletes take their GH. The ones that are using more than 3 IU's will split the dose half in the mid morning, half in the late afternoon. Works very well. Your natural GH levels are lowest at this time, so that's the reasoning behind it.

 

[Alright123]

Mid morning is how the majority of my athletes take their GH. The ones that are using more than 3 IU's will split the dose half in the mid morning, half in the late afternoon. Works very well. Your natural GH levels are lowest at this time, so that's the reasoning behind it.

But GH is not fully absorbed right away. IM shots cause higher instant blood levels and still take 6-14 hours to fully get in the system.

 

[Makavelli]

But GH is not fully absorbed right away. IM shots cause higher instant blood levels and still take 6-14 hours to fully get in the system.

Right, however I've spoken with endrochronolgist and sports med docs and they all agree that's the best way to take it. If there's a better way, I'm all ears...

 

[Alright123]

Many posts concerning the night time shots and how much it affects natural gh production, if you think of it the shots you take in the morning and afternoon and constantly been absorbed. Even though, u shot late afternoon its still being released throughout night time. I just don't think that night time shots have that much effect on natural gh production. What do you think ?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

But GH is not fully absorbed right away. IM shots cause higher instant blood levels and still take 6-14 hours to fully get in the system.

I though GH was shot sub-Q only???

 

[Alright123]

No, you can do Sub-Q and IM shots.

Some even tried IV and there is no advantage to that.

 

[bigpat]

I though GH was shot sub-Q only???

i go sub-Q is more easy and faster.....

 

[bigpat]

Right, however I've spoken with endrochronolgist and sports med docs and they all agree that's the best way to take it. If there's a better way, I'm all ears...

sooo, i cant fix myself mid-morning because im working, so if i do before sleeping its not the best time, but it will work anyway. right?
i only take 2u.i per day for 10 weeks, after that i will take it 4ui for 5 weeks and coming back for 2ui for 10weeks....

 

[Alright123]

sooo, i cant fix myself mid-morning because im working, so if i do before sleeping its not the best time, but it will work anyway. right?
i only take 2u.i per day for 10 weeks, after that i will take it 4ui for 5 weeks and coming back for 2ui for 10weeks....

My opinion is that you are fine shooting before bedtime. I do not see a reason why you go from 2iu - 4iu then back down to 2iu. I think that is pointless with Gh.

 

[bigpat]

you think is better to continu 2ui per day 5on-2off.

 

[Alright123]

you think is better to continu 2ui per day 5on-2off.

Depending on your goal with GH, for health benefits I suggest 3iu 5on 2off or 4-8 IU EOD for as long as possible.

 

[bigpat]

MASS:
week 1-4*dianabol+stanozonol
week 4-12*test.enanthate+Durabolin
GH 2ui ED, weeks 3 to 13
Hcg+novaldex mid cycle
hcg+arimidex 13to15 weeks
4000-5000 calories....350g of prot.

 

[Alright123]

That is way too short of a period to run GH. It won't matter what doses you running. Save the GH for this cycle and run it when you have more for a min. of 6 months.

 

[gymratforlife]

That is way too short of a period to run GH. It won't matter what doses you running. Save the GH for this cycle and run it when you have more for a min. of 6 months.

This is true I will be runing it for a year at 4ius per day 7 days per week some of the time while on cycle and some of the time adding insulin.I will cruise/cycle for the whole year more than likely to get the most gains out of my gh $$.

 

[Makavelli]

you think is better to continu 2ui per day 5on-2off.

Yes, it's better to go that way. I agree also that you need to run it a minimum of 4 months. You can take it mid morning or if you're getting good results before bed, then stick with it. I suggest mid morning, but everyone has their opinion.

 

[bigpat]

ok i will go for 6 months...i pay xxxx$ for jintropin box(10x10ui)
but i will not cycle all that time 3months on-3 off for cycle...do you have a good pump feeling when you taking gh alone..

 

[Makavelli]

Hey bro, edit your post. You can't post prices.

 

[ed2005]

Hey Pat edit that post with prices or you'll get bombed or banned. You can't post prices..

 

[ziggyziggy]

Don't post prices!

 

[bigpat]

oups its true !!!! sorry

 

[bigpat]

where are you shooting ? im shooting around ombilical (lower abs)...?