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I have been taking gh for about 21 weeks. The first 15 weeks I took 6iu/day 5 on 2 off then 4 weeks of 6iu ed and the last 2 weeks I have been taking 9iu/day. I will most likely start taking 12iu/day ed starting next week or the week after for 9 weeks until competition. About 2 weeks ago my hands have started feeling numb which I know is a normal side effect of gh. Something else that I recently noticed is that my jaw is kinda aching and tonight while I was eating it started to get a little painful. Is this normal? If so, will it go away after I stop taking gh?

cbeaks
 
cbeaks...I'm sure you've thoroughly researched GH before putting it into your body so I don't have to tell you that one one of the side effects is acromegaly which is a thickening of the bones, one of which includes the jaw.
 
acromegaly is not one of the side effects of GH...that is a myth. If you have a genetic pre-disposition to acromegaly, then of course Gh would accelerate it's onset. GH does not cause acromegaly.
 
yes I have researched gh extensively and I had the same understanding as monkeyballs. Somebody mentioned to me that it could be TMJ. Just curious if anyone else had experienced this.

cbeaks
 
You are probably correct MOD. I guess I am just a little stubborn because I have a big show coming up and an almost unlimited supply of gh.
 
unless you plan on running 12 iu's for the next six months i wouldnt worry about too much...my longest run without a break was about 6 months straight and my jaw also felt a little stiff at times...most of the time i just fill it in my hands, no pain but they do feel stiff and thick....i'm going to run 10 months straight and take a month off and hit it again...i love this shit
 
monkeyballs said:
acromegaly is not one of the side effects of GH...that is a myth. If you have a genetic pre-disposition to acromegaly, then of course Gh would accelerate it's onset. GH does not cause acromegaly.

I'm not quite sure where you got your info but this is straight from my pathology book. Axxording to you they must not be teaching the right info in med/dent school:

Acromegaly is a hormonal disorder that results when the pituitary gland produces excess growth hormone (GH). It most commonly affects middle-aged adults and can result in serious illness and premature death. Once recognized, acromegaly is treatable in most patients, but because of its slow and often insidious onset, it frequently is not diagnosed correctly.
The name acromegaly comes from the Greek words for "extremities" and "enlargement" and reflects one of its most common symptoms, the abnormal growth of the hands and feet. Soft tissue swelling of the hands and feet is often an early feature, with patients noticing a change in ring or shoe size. Gradually, bony changes alter the patient's facial features: the brow and lower jaw protrude, the nasal bone enlarges, and spacing of the teeth increases.

Overgrowth of bone and cartilage often leads to arthritis. When tissue thickens, it may trap nerves, causing carpal tunnel syndrome, characterized by numbness and weakness of the hands. Other symptoms of acromegaly include thick, coarse, oily skin; skin tags; enlarged lips, nose and tongue; deepening of the voice due to enlarged sinuses and vocal cords; snoring due to upper airway obstruction; excessive sweating and skin odor; fatigue and weakness; headaches; impaired vision; abnormalities of the menstrual cycle and sometimes breast discharge in women; and impotence in men. There may be enlargement of body organs, including the liver, spleen, kidneys and heart.
 
cbeaks said:
I have been taking gh for about 21 weeks. The first 15 weeks I took 6iu/day 5 on 2 off then 4 weeks of 6iu ed and the last 2 weeks I have been taking 9iu/day. I will most likely start taking 12iu/day ed starting next week or the week after for 9 weeks until competition. About 2 weeks ago my hands have started feeling numb which I know is a normal side effect of gh. Something else that I recently noticed is that my jaw is kinda aching and tonight while I was eating it started to get a little painful. Is this normal? If so, will it go away after I stop taking gh?

cbeaks
for what it's worth, I've been doing 18 i u a day 7 days a week for a month with no side effects-every 1 must respond differently to it
 
I appreciate the replies. It is good to here from diamondiceclay since I know he has used so much and it is always nice to get a reply from MOD since he is so knowledgeable in this area. I'll keep everone informed on how I respond to my gh. I will probably drop down to 6iu/day if the pain gets worse, otherwise I gotta go hard to compete well.
cbeaks
 
9 i.u/day for the last 4 weeks and my arms and hands are always "asleep" -- numb, tingling, etc., and much worse at night. I wake up 5-10x nightly with numbness in my arms. During the day it subsides but doesn't go away completely. It's not fun.
 
BBkingpin said:
9 i.u/day for the last 4 weeks and my arms and hands are always "asleep" -- numb, tingling, etc., and much worse at night. I wake up 5-10x nightly with numbness in my arms. During the day it subsides but doesn't go away completely. It's not fun.


well on a + note atleast you know your shit is real and working,,,imo the ideal dose is in the 4/6 units range to avoid these sides...i'm on 4 units and stay on all the time and i only get stiff hands,,,
 
gilly6993 said:


I'm not quite sure where you got your info but this is straight from my pathology book. Axxording to you they must not be teaching the right info in med/dent school:

Acromegaly is a hormonal disorder that results when the pituitary gland produces excess growth hormone (GH). It most commonly affects middle-aged adults and can result in serious illness and premature death. Once recognized, acromegaly is treatable in most patients, but because of its slow and often insidious onset, it frequently is not diagnosed correctly.
The name acromegaly comes from the Greek words for "extremities" and "enlargement" and reflects one of its most common symptoms, the abnormal growth of the hands and feet. Soft tissue swelling of the hands and feet is often an early feature, with patients noticing a change in ring or shoe size. Gradually, bony changes alter the patient's facial features: the brow and lower jaw protrude, the nasal bone enlarges, and spacing of the teeth increases.

Overgrowth of bone and cartilage often leads to arthritis. When tissue thickens, it may trap nerves, causing carpal tunnel syndrome, characterized by numbness and weakness of the hands. Other symptoms of acromegaly include thick, coarse, oily skin; skin tags; enlarged lips, nose and tongue; deepening of the voice due to enlarged sinuses and vocal cords; snoring due to upper airway obstruction; excessive sweating and skin odor; fatigue and weakness; headaches; impaired vision; abnormalities of the menstrual cycle and sometimes breast discharge in women; and impotence in men. There may be enlargement of body organs, including the liver, spleen, kidneys and heart.


Okay...I'm just not going to get upset over this. It's not worth it. But you don't know what the fuck your talking about and your 8th grade bio-text books don't prove shit. Med/dent School...ooooooooooohhhhh. Everybody know that doctors and dentists (dentists?!?!?) can never be wrong. Here is an excerpt from anabolic review. I suggest you read it before you give advice to someone telling them that they're going to turn into andre the giant. I'm done dealing with this.

The undesired effect of growth hormones, the so-called side effects, are also a very interesting and hotly-discussed issue. Above all it must be said: STH has none of the typical side effects of anabolic/ androgenic steroids including reduced endogenous testosterone production, acne, hair loss, aggressiveness, elevated estrogen level, virilization symptoms in women, and increased water and salt retention. The main side effects that are possible with STH are an abnormally small concentration of glucose in the Wood (hypoglycemia) and an inadequate thyroid function. In some cases antibodies against growth hormones are developed but are clinically irrelevant. What about the horror stories about Acromegaly, bone deformation, heart enlargement, organ conditions, gigantism, and early death- In order to answer this question a clear differentiation must be made between humans before and after puberty. The growth plates in a person continue to grow in length until puberty. After puberty neither an endogenous hypersection of growth hormones nor an excessive exogenous supply of STH can cause additional growth in the length of the bones. Abnormal size (gigantism) initially goes hand in hand with remarkable body strength and muscular hardness in the afflicted; later, if left untreated, it ends in weakness and death. Again, this is only possible in pre-pubescent humans who also suffer from an inadequate gonadal function (hypogonadism). Humans who suffer from an endogenous hypersecretion after puberty and whose normal growth is completed can also suffer from Acromegaly. Bones become wider but not longer. There is a progressive growth in the hands and feet, and enlargement of features due to the growth of the lower jaw and nose. Heart muscle and kidneys can also gain in weight and size. In the beginning all of this goes hand in hand with increased body strength and muscular hardness; it ends, however, in fatigue, weakness, diabetes, heart conditions, and early death.

What the authorities like to do now is to present extreme cases of athletes suffering from these malfunctions in order to discourage others and to drum into athletes the fact that with the exogenous supply of growth hormones they would suffer the same destiny This, however, is very unlikely, as reality has proven. Among the numerous athletes using STH comparatively few are seven feet tall Neanderthalers with a protruded lower jaw, deformed skull, clawlike hands, thick lips, and prominent bone plates who walk around in size 25 shoes in order to avoid any misunderstandings, we do not want to disguise the possible risks of exogenous STH use in adults and healthy humans, but one should at least try to be open-minded. Acromegaly, diabetes, thyroid insufficiency, heart muscle hypertrophy, high blood pressure, and enlargement of the kidneys are theoretically possible if STH is used excessively over prolonged periods of time; however, in reality and particularly when it comes to the external attributes, these are rarely present. Tests have shown no causal relation between treatment with somatropin and a possible higher risk of leukemia. Some athletes report headaches, nausea, vomiting, and visual disturbances during the first weeks of intake. These symptoms disappear in most cases even with continued intake. The most common problems with STH occur when the athlete intends to inject insulin in addition to STH. We know two competing German bodybuilders who, because of improper insulin injections, fell into comas lasting several weeks.
 
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