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How does GH work? What exactly is the purpose of GH? I know very well how Test and Estro and all those other hormones work and what they do. But what about GH? I mean...if all my hormones were Ok. But my GH was low. Is this bad? What would happen? Here is the reason why I am asking this. I stopped taking my HRT GH for about 6 weeks. I just wanted to see what would happen. And honestly...nothing bad happend! I didnt' gain any fat! I didn't loose any sleep! My libido was fine. If anything I did notice that I lost some water and looked more leaner and vascular.

I'm having problems now with my insurance company. And they might take away my GH Hrt. I dont' know if I should be worried or not if I get my GH. I know 6 weeks of not taking it didn't do anything bad to me. But what about now years of not taking it! What will happen?
 
sup Carth

From what I have read in the past , low levels of HGH ,OVER TIME, can lead to :

- decreased libido
- decreased muscle mass
- increase body fat
- decreased skin elasticity
- decreased strenght
- dereased overral sense of well being

And tons of other stuff . I am not an expert and I could be wrong , but in 6 weeks you would not feel anything . The sides would be coming later ....down the road . this is my guess .



Victor
 
VictorBR said:
sup Carth

From what I have read in the past , low levels of HGH ,OVER TIME, can lead to :

- decreased libido
- decreased muscle mass
- increase body fat
- decreased skin elasticity
- decreased strenght
- dereased overral sense of well being

And tons of other stuff . I am not an expert and I could be wrong , but in 6 weeks you would not feel anything . The sides would be coming later ....down the road . this is my guess .



Victor

This is stuff that everyone knows. Thats cool though. Thanks for the input. But then again...they also say the SAME thing for Test and Estrogen levels. So maybe I didn't feel shit because my Test and E levels are manipulated by me? Look at all the things you just posted. These are alll things we can reverse if all took in some Test. Or even Dbol!!! And made sure the Estrogen levels are not out of wack.
 
I took GH numerous times in the past, but ner more than 4ius a day. When I came off it I didn't notice any crash whatsoever. I actually felt like I was still on it(increased energy, libido, overall sense of well being) for 6-12 months before I felt like my gains were coming to a halt. Even then, discontinuing HGH was nowhere near as miserable as what going off test is like.
 
It takes some time for your IGF levels to drop, just as it takes time for them to rise when you start. If you've been on for a while your body won't see effects without it for a some time. It'll be gradual so don't worry. Obviously it also depends on how low you are, (IGF labs). I notice I need more sleep as the first negative effect.

How many iu's were you on?
 
nsashbl01 said:
It takes some time for your IGF levels to drop, just as it takes time for them to rise when you start. If you've been on for a while your body won't see effects without it for a some time. It'll be gradual so don't worry. Obviously it also depends on how low you are, (IGF labs). I notice I need more sleep as the first negative effect.

How many iu's were you on?

2ius per day. But 2ius per day brings my IGF-1 levels to 370 i think. And the range the doctor has on his sheet says between 180-492. Actually, it only takes about 7 days for it to drop. I already experimented this about 3 years ago. Before I got my usual bloodwork. I stopped taking my GH for 7 days just to see where the range of my IGF-1 would come out to. It came out to 120.
 
GH will actually grow new cells if im not mistaken (possibly changing your genetic potential), which aas doesnt do. and if your on other HRT (ie test) i doubt that discontinuing 2ius GH will drastically change your physique for the worse
 
ricorico said:
GH will actually grow new cells if im not mistaken (possibly changing your genetic potential), which aas doesnt do. and if your on other HRT (ie test) i doubt that discontinuing 2ius GH will drastically change your physique for the worse

My concern is not physique. Certainly GH MUST do something that Test or any other hormone cannot accomplish. That is what i need to find out. Because I feel like shit without Test. But damn! I didn't feel jack shit without my GH at all! If anything I was leaner. Way more vascular. Slept fine! Felt fine!
 
Carth said:
How does GH work? What exactly is the purpose of GH? I know very well how Test and Estro and all those other hormones work and what they do. But what about GH? I mean...if all my hormones were Ok. But my GH was low. Is this bad? What would happen? Here is the reason why I am asking this. I stopped taking my HRT GH for about 6 weeks. I just wanted to see what would happen. And honestly...nothing bad happend! I didnt' gain any fat! I didn't loose any sleep! My libido was fine. If anything I did notice that I lost some water and looked more leaner and vascular.

I'm having problems now with my insurance company. And they might take away my GH Hrt. I dont' know if I should be worried or not if I get my GH. I know 6 weeks of not taking it didn't do anything bad to me. But what about now years of not taking it! What will happen?

HOW DOES HGH DO ITS WORK?
HGH is short lived, but during its short half-hour or so activity per burst from the pituitary, it exerts itself through direct and indirect effects.

Its direct effects are the result of the HGH binding its receptor on target cells. Fat cells (adipocytes) as well as myocytes (muscle cells) have HGH receptors. On fat cells, HGH stimulates them to break down triglyceride and suppresses the fat cells ability to uptake circulating lipids.

Its indirect effects are in the process we described in the section above. When HGH travels to the liver, the result in its pass through the liver is the secretion of IGF-1. When this IGF-1 is secreted, it stimulates proliferation of chondrocytes (cartilage cells), which result in bone growth. It also plays a part in stimulating both the proliferation and differentiation of myoblasts (the precursor to skeletal muscle fibers). IGF-1 also stimulates amino acid uptake and protein synthesis in muscle and other tissues.

HGH stimulates protein anabolism in many tissues. This reflects increased protein synthesis, decreased oxidation of proteins, and increased amino acid uptake. As mentioned above, HGH enhances fat utilization by stimulating triglyceride breakdown and oxidation in fat cells (adipocytes).

HGH can affect the function of other hormones. HGH can suppress the abilities of insulin to stimulate the uptake of glucose in tissues and enhance glucose synthesis in the liver, though administering HGH actually stimulates insulin secretion and can create a state of hyperinsulinemia. This combination can lead to decreased insulin sensitivity, which in turn can lead to hyperglycemia. HGH can also have a slight inhibitory effect on the thyroid, though this varies greatly from individual to individual. We’ll discuss more on how to deal with these potential effects later in this guide.

Okay, so we have a hormone that can assist with maintenance and healing of most of the body’s systems, can create new cartilage, bone, and muscle cells, can assist with protein uptake, decrease the oxidation of proteins, and can accelerate the rate at which fat is utilized. This paints the picture of the excitement that follows HGH. So how do we utilize this to our advantage? Let’s look at what is involved in exogenous HGH use.
 
Also..Our levels of HGH peak while we are adolescents and then begin to drop off sharply beginning in our 30’s. By our 60’s, our daily HGH secretion can be as little as 10% of what it was during our youth. Many of the markers of aging are affected by this decrease in HGH. Some of the results of this are:

· Increase in fat.
· Decrease in muscle and lean body structures.
· Decreased skin texture resulting in a less youthful appearance.
· Decreased bone density, onset of osteoporosis.
· Decreased brain function, loss of intellect with aging.
· Decreased sex drive.
· Decrease in overall physical and mental well being.
· Increase in sleep disorders, lower quality of sleep.
· Depression and fatigue.

The addition of supplemental HGH beginning in the later 30’s can reverse or improve these symptoms in the majority of people attempting therapy. This is why you will often hear references with respect to HGH as “the fountain of youth” and other similar terms. It can present a better quality of life for those aging as well as provide some great benefits for bodybuilders.
 
From what I have read in the past , low levels of HGH ,OVER TIME, can lead to


If you are under 50 or genetically challenged don’t waste your time or money,

If the hrt is covered by insurance and you can do 5 iu’s per day for 9-12 months go for it.
 
Swordfish...excellent read my man! But honestly, can't just Testosterone do all that you must mentioned? Like I mentioned before. When I stopped taking my GH for a few weeks. I really didn't notice anything bad happen to me. I still had sex drive. I slept quite fine. I was not depressed at all. And once again...if anything. I was leaner! More vascular and defined. BTW....from what I know. IGF-1 frees up bound test the same way androgens do. Or like proviron does. This might be the reason for its positive effects. Its allowing more Test to be freee and not bound.

And Solidspine...taking 5ius per day is flat out stupid. Too much GH is bad for you and can actually be counterproductive in bodybuilding. Not too mention that 2ius per day adds some water to me. 5ius will make it worse for sure.
 
Carth said:
Swordfish...excellent read my man! But honestly, can't just Testosterone do all that you must mentioned? Like I mentioned before. When I stopped taking my GH for a few weeks. I really didn't notice anything bad happen to me. I still had sex drive. I slept quite fine. I was not depressed at all. And once again...if anything. I was leaner! More vascular and defined. BTW....from what I know. IGF-1 frees up bound test the same way androgens do. Or like proviron does. This might be the reason for its positive effects. Its allowing more Test to be freee and not bound.

And Solidspine...taking 5ius per day is flat out stupid. Too much GH is bad for you and can actually be counterproductive in bodybuilding. Not too mention that 2ius per day adds some water to me. 5ius will make it worse for sure.
Whats up bro long time no see.Well let me get to your question first,in basic terms what gh does for you that test canot do is that with gh you are causing your body to produce new muscle cells,although they begin microscopic at first nonetheless they are new cells u did not have before.All that test or other anabolics can do is make your existing cells bigger but they cannot produce new ones beyond what your genetics gave you.Gh is like planting a seed and then feeding it with water and fertilizer and waiting for a nice strong tree to grow.The better u take care of it and water and feed it the healthier and bigger it will grow to be.With the gh u put the new cells in then you feed them with protein and slin if you use that and aid it with aas and you will grow nice thick new muscle tissue.The more work u put into it the better the quality of that new tissue.Hope this makes sense lol.
 
Carth said:
Swordfish...excellent read my man! But honestly, can't just Testosterone do all that you must mentioned? Like I mentioned before. When I stopped taking my GH for a few weeks. I really didn't notice anything bad happen to me. I still had sex drive. I slept quite fine. I was not depressed at all. And once again...if anything. I was leaner! More vascular and defined. BTW....from what I know. IGF-1 frees up bound test the same way androgens do. Or like proviron does. This might be the reason for its positive effects. Its allowing more Test to be freee and not bound.

And Solidspine...taking 5ius per day is flat out stupid. Too much GH is bad for you and can actually be counterproductive in bodybuilding. Not too mention that 2ius per day adds some water to me. 5ius will make it worse for sure.
5 ius is counterproductive in bodybuilding??? gotta be honest, thats the 1st time ive ever heard that
 
gymratforlife said:
Whats up bro long time no see.Well let me get to your question first,in basic terms what gh does for you that test canot do is that with gh you are causing your body to produce new muscle cells,although they begin microscopic at first nonetheless they are new cells u did not have before.All that test or other anabolics can do is make your existing cells bigger but they cannot produce new ones beyond what your genetics gave you.Gh is like planting a seed and then feeding it with water and fertilizer and waiting for a nice strong tree to grow.The better u take care of it and water and feed it the healthier and bigger it will grow to be.With the gh u put the new cells in then you feed them with protein and slin if you use that and aid it with aas and you will grow nice thick new muscle tissue.The more work u put into it the better the quality of that new tissue.Hope this makes sense lol.



great post
 
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