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thunderous62

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Ok I can finally get a hold of some GH and the problem I face is whether or not to spend the money on the GH or use the money and do another cycle.

My stats are as follows;
6'2 210lbs 10% BF
I am currently in a cycle that will be 12 weeks and I am two weeks in.
the Cycle consists of Test Suspension/Test Enthanate and Equibol The suspension is for the first 6 weeks only

I am considering adding the GH in for the last 8 weeks of the cycle, however in reading up on the GH i have heard alot say you should take exogenous insulin along with it and that the results are hit or miss with GH. I dont want to waste alot of money on GH if the results are only great for few and only if taken with alot of other exogenous hormones. I was thinking of doing 4iu a day to start with a low dose this being the first time and continue the 4 iu for the last 8 weeks. So should I do the 8 weeks of GH or use the money for doing another cycle of AS later. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated as far as dosing of the GH. Personal experiences and etc Thanks
 
I'm also interested in HGH.

From what I've read there's definetly a syngergistic effect with the COMBINATION of AAS and HGH...
 
bmcadoo44 said:
he is probly looking to get his tendons and joints in shape
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if you use hgh get some (Guggulsterones) or (forsklin)this is for the thyroid gland gh shuts down the thyroid pretty quick if you go over 6-ius some people less !!!and is just as affective as t-3 without the expense.
also as a side note check your temp every couple weeks when you start hgh to see were you are at. you should get colder while on hgh so check this before you start to see were you are at. if you decide to go with t3 -cytowel brand is good /start with 12.5 mcg to 75mgs daily depending on your level of fitness and body weight. i also take bromocriptine mesylate for prolactin issuses yes hgh can cause these affects so it is a good idea to have something on hand (gyno) i know everyone says you cant get gyno from hgh but you can bromo is cheaper than (dostinex) which i think is just as well. good luck bro!!!!!!!!!!
 
The HGH I have available to me is Jintropin based on what you are sayin Blacksabbath1987 do you suggest I use t3 instead I have access to that as well. I run Nolvadex my entire cycle for the gyno regardless. I do however want to get the most bang for my buck should I use the t3 instead or do the 4ius of jintropin. Thanks bro for your input. Also I am not really worried about my joints. I know that is an added bonus from taking GH but I am not making my decision to take it based on that.
 
thunderous62 said:
Ok I can finally get a hold of some GH and the problem I face is whether or not to spend the money on the GH or use the money and do another cycle.

My stats are as follows;
6'2 210lbs 10% BF
I am currently in a cycle that will be 12 weeks and I am two weeks in.
the Cycle consists of Test Suspension/Test Enthanate and Equibol The suspension is for the first 6 weeks only

I am considering adding the GH in for the last 8 weeks of the cycle, however in reading up on the GH i have heard alot say you should take exogenous insulin along with it and that the results are hit or miss with GH. I dont want to waste alot of money on GH if the results are only great for few and only if taken with alot of other exogenous hormones. I was thinking of doing 4iu a day to start with a low dose this being the first time and continue the 4 iu for the last 8 weeks. So should I do the 8 weeks of GH or use the money for doing another cycle of AS later. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated as far as dosing of the GH. Personal experiences and etc Thanks
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Save your money and run steroids. I`ve seen pros who achieve great results without GH. You guys depend on the gear too much. Think about how to train effectively! use steroids of course but dont expect wonders! You have to train hard and eat right! Thats the way to get big! And you can achieve it without GH.
 
dont waste your money on the gh this cycle.i have used growth for over 5+ years.you need to start at least 3-4 weeks before your cycle at 2 ius for your body to adjust.then when on run 4-6 ius min. entire cycle.lower your dose to 2 ius during pct.gyno from gh is bullshit.dont bother.also jins are a good gh choice.make sure you buy sealed kits and check the serial number at their website.

ps.wtf is eqibol???
 
First thanks for the input. Remember that my question was not does diet and excercise matter if I am on GH or should I just push more gear to get my desired results. I have been training for a while and I know the importance of proper diet. I do not rely on gear at all I just like the added benefits from using. Dont make generalized statements when specific questions were asked. I appreciate your input however on great results without GH I too have achieved great things without it however I think it has a place in my personal portfolio. Frank I will take your advice and hold off until next cycle and start it up prior to the AS. and Equibol is:Boldenone Undecylenate which is similar to Deca
 
thunderous62 said:
First thanks for the input. Remember that my question was not does diet and excercise matter if I am on GH or should I just push more gear to get my desired results. I have been training for a while and I know the importance of proper diet. I do not rely on gear at all I just like the added benefits from using. Dont make generalized statements when specific questions were asked. I appreciate your input however on great results without GH I too have achieved great things without it however I think it has a place in my personal portfolio. Frank I will take your advice and hold off until next cycle and start it up prior to the AS. and Equibol is:Boldenone Undecylenate which is similar to Deca
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Well it definitely gives additional benefits but they doesnt worth the money in my opinion... most of us can live without GH :) If you can afford it then its noather story. but if money is an issue then forget about it.
 
thunderous62 said:
First thanks for the input. Remember that my question was not does diet and excercise matter if I am on GH or should I just push more gear to get my desired results. I have been training for a while and I know the importance of proper diet. I do not rely on gear at all I just like the added benefits from using. Dont make generalized statements when specific questions were asked. I appreciate your input however on great results without GH I too have achieved great things without it however I think it has a place in my personal portfolio. Frank I will take your advice and hold off until next cycle and start it up prior to the AS. and Equibol is:Boldenone Undecylenate which is similar to Deca
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gh is a great add to any cycle.it just takes time.if you get a chance stop by www.coast-coastbodybuilding.com. i am the senior moderator over there would be glad to help you.

ps.very familiar with eq.never heard it called equibol.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Well it definitely gives additional benefits but they doesnt worth the money in my opinion... most of us can live without GH :) If you can afford it then its noather story. but if money is an issue then forget about it.
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no bro what i am saying is t-3 will help with the thyroid shut down just check your temp every other week that will let you know if your thyroid is shutting down. this is the first sign you will see running hgh then you can taylor you shots. but to big legs and arms everthing has its price and growth hormone will get you their with high doses along with as i to have run 8-to 12 ius a day of growth shooting in the muscle and gains will come quick!!! use a 1/2 needle and hit the tri,s bicep/quads/for growth but if you just want to lose fat than run low doses and hit in-between the abs/the love handles.this is what most do to get fat off!!!! high doses comes with sides you dont think ronnie colman got big as legs like that with as!!! hell know you have to use a shit load of as!!! and hgh-15 to 20 ius a day and igf-1 everthing has its place you just have to know when to use it and how to use it and that comes with trail and error and expertmenting on your self!!! I DONT RECOMMEND DOING THIS!!! THIS WAS MY OWN PREFERENCE!!! 2ius ed is great for the novice user. good luck to you and have everthing on hand before you start!!! their is some smart fucking guys listen to some and do your home work yourself. the best teacher is you. your body will tell you the rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! peace
 
blacksabbath1987 said:
no bro what i am saying is t-3 will help with the thyroid shut down just check your temp every other week that will let you know if your thyroid is shutting down. this is the first sign you will see running hgh then you can taylor you shots. but to big legs and arms everthing has its price and growth hormone will get you their with high doses along with as i to have run 8-to 12 ius a day of growth shooting in the muscle and gains will come quick!!! use a 1/2 needle and hit the tri,s bicep/quads/for growth but if you just want to lose fat than run low doses and hit in-between the abs/the love handles.this is what most do to get fat off!!!! high doses comes with sides you dont think ronnie colman got big as legs like that with as!!! hell know you have to use a shit load of as!!! and hgh-15 to 20 ius a day and igf-1 everthing has its place you just have to know when to use it and how to use it and that comes with trail and error and expertmenting on your self!!! I DONT RECOMMEND DOING THIS!!! THIS WAS MY OWN PREFERENCE!!! 2ius ed is great for the novice user. good luck to you and have everthing on hand before you start!!! their is some smart fucking guys listen to some and do your home work yourself. the best teacher is you. your body will tell you the rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! peace
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But growth doenst promote localized growth like youu are saying does it?you are saying shoot sub q for fat loss but shoot intramuscular if you want a specific muslce to grow...like your legs...?
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
But growth doenst promote localized growth like youu are saying does it?you are saying shoot sub q for fat loss but shoot intramuscular if you want a specific muslce to grow...like your legs...?
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You are correct bro, i don't know where he got that idea, but HGH does NOT promote localized growth in ANY WAY!!
 
frank2252 said:
gh wont but igf and pgf2a will give you site specific growth.
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IGF WILL NOT , and i say it again WILL NOT,

now PGF2a yes, it will, but you are wrong on the IGF
 
athlete.03 said:
I'm also interested in HGH.

From what I've read there's definetly a syngergistic effect with the COMBINATION of AAS and HGH...
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HGH most definitely works better along side a solid AAS cycle.
 
drrman said:
IGF WILL NOT , and i say it again WILL NOT,

now PGF2a yes, it will, but you are wrong on the IGF
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not looking to argue but igf is a very site specific. go to basskilleronline and read the report citing dr.adams tests or better yet try it yourself.
 
frank2252 said:
not looking to argue but igf is a very site specific. go to basskilleronline and read the report citing dr.adams tests or better yet try it yourself.
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better yet bro, i've tried it myself MANY times.........im not going to argue anymore either bro, but it is NOT site specific, you can even inject it sub q my friend, that right there tells you it isn't site specific. and another tip, don't believe everything you read.
 
drrman said:
better yet bro, i've tried it myself MANY times.........im not going to argue anymore either bro, but it is NOT site specific, you can even inject it sub q my friend, that right there tells you it isn't site specific. and another tip, don't believe everything you read.
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thats true.basskiller and the boys over there are fools.buy some real igf next time.try igtropin....
 
drrman said:
that is NOT LR3 bro, it was a study on regular IGF with a half life of less than 20 minutes also............and i will tell you again from my EXPERIENCE and the EXPERIENCE of hundreds of other people on this board and three others im a mod on that it does NOT give localized growth
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makes no difference.my experience as well as many i know say otherwise.lets just say we agree to disagree. :)
 
i'd really like to see you post info saying it causes localized growth. i know plenty of bros that use it and ive asked all of them if it does, not one of them said it did that for them. growth hormone is not worth it unless you run it with aas. go with a solid stack instead
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
YYeah thanks bro...i knew that localized growth was bs
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their is a bro that works out with us his legs are huge and he uses hgh and igf-1 together fror the last 2-years he has growed big time and now i have tried this along his my regement and my quads are starting to grow and i have been of cycle for 2-months and getting ready to jump back on board here pretty soon. it worked for him and i am going to give it a shot. their are certain times of the day he runs igf-1 in intervels once the igf is adminstered for a couple of weeks your body adjusts to the igf and growth stops i guess thats why they call it cycling. now i have run the same as everyone else here also . but trying this was a long shot because my legs did not grow like i wanted and now i am seeing improvement . trial and error. but take in mind he is diabetic so he,s growing like a weed with the insulin along with everything else. you know the guys i am talking about when you walk in the gym they are bigger than everybody. you say to yourself damn i wish i had legs like that. i will keep you guys posted on my results
when i am done.
 
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