GH/IGF-1 cycle

[jordan3]

I am in my ninth week of preparation for the 2005 USA Championships. I am a huge fan of El Rea and have studied his work extensively. I am a little confused about the synergenic use of GH and IGF-1. On page 119 of Building the Perfect Beast it states "When stacked together, the combination of IGF-1 and GH is documented to be at least twice as anabolic as either alone."
On page 157 (All Out Psycho Layer Cycle) it states "Gh and IGF-1 were alternated in this example to allow for a synthesis up-regulation of the liver enzymes that facilitate GH conversion into highly active growth factors (Like IGF-1)."
I am going all out for this show and expense is not an issue. So the question is which protocol is best for maximizing results?

Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter,

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[concordsize]

IMO gh along with long R is a waste. Igf does everything gh does and more. Save gh for a later date.

 

[concordsize]

Long r imo works best with a cycle of aas and high, I mean high protein! You should also have the aas in you before you start the igf.

 

[Dial_tone]

IMO gh along with long R is a waste. Igf does everything gh does and more. Save gh for a later date.

Not true. IGF-1 causes hyperplasia, GH does not.

 

[concordsize]

If you have the money then gh can be added but imo the gain diffrence will not be noticable. Gh can help make a igf cycle last longer by several weeks if that is a big issue to you. Durring my quest i noticed that igf effects stop around week 4. If you are on gh you may be able to run igf l for 6 weeks and still notice the improvements. If you do decide to use gh and gfl then make sure you start your gh well before your igf cycle.

 

[Makavelli]

If expense is not an issue, then run both. IGF is still too new for anyone to have a definitive answer.

 

[jordan3]

Thanks, but you did not address my specific question. Should the GH and IGF be stacked together on the same day or should they be taken seperately on different days? And of course I'm running ass and clen and thyriod. I'm currently taking in 500 grams of protien per day. Carbs are cycled form 450 grams to 350 grams to 250 grams on the third day. All meals are weighed and measured.