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ultragainz
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NEVER take gh before bed time
ultragainz
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We make 80% of our own during the first cycle of REM sleep.....the kits directions are aimed at sick people with non functioning or malfuncctioning immune system so they say bedtime is good..but not for us(bodybuilders)
so every 4 hours is fine...split it 3times during the day...or just keep it at 2/times
i would just keep it at 2/times during the day..
so every 4 hours is fine...split it 3times during the day...or just keep it at 2/times
i would just keep it at 2/times during the day..
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I took the GH for the last 6 weeks no major problems until last weeks when my fingers wont close at night. During the day they were fine. when i sleep they go creazy i can't close them and they spring when i try to open them. I was taking 4 IU seven days a week at night time. Since my problem started i dropped to 2 IU per day in the morning. My hand hurt little less but the pain is still present. Any advise I have about 72 IU to go on my second box
ultragainz
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take gh at 5 days on 2 days off...
lawnsaver
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IronFist said:
Totally incorrect!!!!!!!!!!!
If you stay on GH for extended periods of time without any type of break, you run the risk of suppresing the pituitary gland that is responsible for secreation. 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off will allow the pituitary to keep working!
I'm sure people like Ironmaster and M.O.D could fill in the medical terminology much better.
ultragainz
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i would do 5 days on 2 days off...but really if you take it ED thats fine....injects only supress natural-production only for a few hours or so...and you keep making gh everyday....the half life is short so its not 1-2 days.....like test susp is good to take ED cause of the short half life..better yet to take 1/2cc in the am the 1/2cc in the pm..so you get my point?gh half life is short only only supress natural production for a few hours...sorry maybe i didnt explain this in the right way i took a nap and feel like going back to bed again..lol
also thats why i said DONT use gh before bed...dont want to supress the 80% of gh we make on are own when we sleep....
also thats why i said DONT use gh before bed...dont want to supress the 80% of gh we make on are own when we sleep....
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First, I am attempting to post a chart that shows the flat times in our natural production of GH..........inject during these flat periods and take advantage of the big surge during the first 2 hours of REM sleep.
As for the 5/2 argument, let me say this...... lawnsaver and ironfist are both A#1 intelligent, knowledgeable brothers. There is a parcity of science in the area of GH, especially in the way we use it, so it's natural that there be some differences of opinion on the topic.
The more recent research says that exogenous GH suppresses natural production for a matter of hours only (although Zyg showed me a old study that seemed to suggest days....it was not convincing).
I have never found a study or met anyone who had shut down his pituitary permanently from injecting GH ( I have been a fan of GH for a decade, and my natural production comes right back during the occasional breaks I have taken) Now messing with the thyroid is another story, and we all know what test does to our nuts, so I have no problem with the guys who feel safer taking 2 days a week off. I do this myself sometimes, but not because of the GH.........but to give a rest from the insulin, and sure, your GH will last longer. I don't think it's medically necessary in a normal 12 or 16 week GH cycle. The new med school text, "Basic Endocrinology" states that shut down is a matter of several hours only.
I will say this, lawnsaver.....I recall teasing you about your 2iu cycle. Well, I tried this over the winter for a while and did NOT notice any real difference over my usual 4iu+......hmmm...maybe our bodily defenses neutralize excessive GH in the system, which is why the pituitary isn't damaged by exogenous GH?? Anyway, it's interesting to note that a mere 2iu gets good results......after all, that's still more than double a young guy's natural production.....but I digress, sorry.
First, I am attempting to post a chart that shows the flat times in our natural production of GH..........inject during these flat periods and take advantage of the big surge during the first 2 hours of REM sleep.
As for the 5/2 argument, let me say this...... lawnsaver and ironfist are both A#1 intelligent, knowledgeable brothers. There is a parcity of science in the area of GH, especially in the way we use it, so it's natural that there be some differences of opinion on the topic.
The more recent research says that exogenous GH suppresses natural production for a matter of hours only (although Zyg showed me a old study that seemed to suggest days....it was not convincing).
I have never found a study or met anyone who had shut down his pituitary permanently from injecting GH ( I have been a fan of GH for a decade, and my natural production comes right back during the occasional breaks I have taken) Now messing with the thyroid is another story, and we all know what test does to our nuts, so I have no problem with the guys who feel safer taking 2 days a week off. I do this myself sometimes, but not because of the GH.........but to give a rest from the insulin, and sure, your GH will last longer. I don't think it's medically necessary in a normal 12 or 16 week GH cycle. The new med school text, "Basic Endocrinology" states that shut down is a matter of several hours only.
I will say this, lawnsaver.....I recall teasing you about your 2iu cycle. Well, I tried this over the winter for a while and did NOT notice any real difference over my usual 4iu+......hmmm...maybe our bodily defenses neutralize excessive GH in the system, which is why the pituitary isn't damaged by exogenous GH?? Anyway, it's interesting to note that a mere 2iu gets good results......after all, that's still more than double a young guy's natural production.....but I digress, sorry.
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i feel that way too I.M, but it can be personal
When doing 2 iu/day there is no real difference from 4 iu/day.
It might in the long run, like after months and months.
When on 2 iu/day instead of 4 iu, there is less water retention around the waist. Maybe it is just me, i don't know.
So right now i stick to 2 iu and save me some money.
Jeff
By the way on HGH for a decade....whaw i hope to follow you.
When doing 2 iu/day there is no real difference from 4 iu/day.
It might in the long run, like after months and months.
When on 2 iu/day instead of 4 iu, there is less water retention around the waist. Maybe it is just me, i don't know.
So right now i stick to 2 iu and save me some money.
Jeff
By the way on HGH for a decade....whaw i hope to follow you.
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