Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hey all was wondering, in your opinions, which is superior for muscle gains and which causes less sides? I'm planning on doing one of the two, but have yet to make up my mind. In the past I have done 3 cycles and my last cycle, which was a gram frontload of test e and 500 mgs after for 7 weeks, I gained around 20 pounds and kept most of it. Problem was I also gained more fat that I wanted. Any suggestions??
GH and Test
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bluetwistedsteel67
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GH by itself is a waste of money. It is very weak for gaining muscle although it is great for burning fat. GH also has many other benefits such as tightening up your skin, minimizing wrinkles, causing an almost euphoric feeling. But, if you are looking for size stick with test. For the money I think test at 400-600mg per week and deca at 400mg per week is pretty great. Throw in some dbol at the begining and you'll see great results (assuming diet and routine are in order)
hammertime30
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bluetwistedsteel67 said:
I agree....I'm going to be adding GH into my life soon, but for the other benefits, not for weight gain...like faster recovery, energy, bone density and all that good shit!!....you want mass...AAS is the solution period!!!
Excidium28
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Are you able to keep most of ur gains on GH, low bf, or you just jump back up soon as you get off?
bluetwistedsteel67
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I've not gone off so I can't tell you first hand. Actually I go 6 months on 2 months off. But, I have been able to keep my gains/fat loss during my off months. I think GH is the absolute best compound out there UNLESS your main goal is lots of lean mass. GH will not give you that. But, I've tried everything and I definitely look and feel my best on Gh. I just have a tighter overall look and feel on top of the world. It's expensive but I'd pay double if I had to to look and feel the way I do. I am not at all a freak size wise. I am 5'8" and stay between 180-185 at 9-10%bf. I have been bigger (biggest was about 210) but never looked more muscular. Gh just has alot of side benis. Better sleep, tighter skin and sex on gh is great and when you throw some test into the mix it's really great. The only downside I have experienced is incredibly vivid nightmares. It's wierd, I have never really had dreams that I can remember but on Gh it's a trip.
hammertime30
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bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Damn dude, you should be the spokesman for your GH manufacturer because you just sold me!!!
small but working on it
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hammertime30 said:Damn dude, you should be the spokesman for your GH manufacturer because you just sold me!!!
Exactly what I was thinking. Shit, I am ready for some right now. I am as excited as a little guuuurl!!!
Excidium28
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yea no shit, im gonna start doin my research.
lol. yeah gh is awesome. Everyone that I know that has ran it loved it. But man. I just got my primo / anavar cycle put together and it was steep. but running a decent amount of gh makes that cycles price look like chump change. It is too rich for my blood at the time. A lot of other labs are coming out and producing it cheaper. The price seems to be dropping while quality stays good. So I guess I will just be patient and wait it out., lol.
Excidium28 said:
Your gains are permanent with GH, but so are some of the sides, such as enlarged heart, organs, etc. Just don't go overboard with it and you should be fine.
shortstack
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i got a slightly enlarged heart from the gh. otherwise the gains are so minimal you might not even notice. the lean effect takes awhile, but after about 5 months it can really change your body type. energy is great, skin is awsome....umm sex is the same-awsome...umm enlarged heat sucks ass... oh, and if i had to pay for it out my own pocket, i wouldnt, and i guess thats the final conclution, lol. doing some test and deca with it now, i'll let yall know how it turns out
shortstack
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3 - 3.6iu's a day (1mg)
bluetwistedsteel67
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no way you can get an enlarged heart at 3iu's per day even if you run it for years on end. 3iu's is a therapeutic dose. The bad sides come at 10+iu's per day minimum.
solidspine
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bluetwistedsteel67
What is your cycle, what growth are you taking, and how many iu's per day are taking? Thanks
What is your cycle, what growth are you taking, and how many iu's per day are taking? Thanks
bluetwistedsteel67
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I use Somatropin and use 4iu's 5 days on 2 off. I go 6 months on 2 months off and have had great results. I'll mix in test, winnie and deca throughout the year (maybe 2 12 weekers) just to get a little extra bang. Gh is great stuff. It is not at all like AAS and you just don't get those quick gains you see in 3-4 weeks with other gear. The changes are more gradual with Gh but if you're patient you will trasnsform yourself in 6 months. It took me 3 months to really notice a significant change to my physique but I FELT better by about week 5. After a year of Gh I look better than I did at 25 which I didn't think was possible at my age (37). You've just got to be patient with this stuff and I'd stay away from Jino as I just think that product is weak but that's just opinion.
I would like to know this as well. Is it actually a pathologically enlarged heart, or simple left ventricular hypertrophy? Weight-training, with OR without gear, causes your heart to thicken some. Even with moderate GH and steroids, you won't get any dangerous thickening of the heart muscle unless you were predisposed to it anyway. I've yet to see any conclusive proof that moderate dosages of GH are anything but beneficial to almost every aspect of health.
shortstack
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well basically i have a doc in cali giving me the humotrope, and then i cam eback to houston, and my new docs started freaking out, cause im fairly honest w/them. she monitored a bunch of stuff, and told me i had a mildley enlaged heart from the gh. i talked to her a bit and asked her if it was serious, and she said not right now and asked if i would come off. i didnt really look into it more just because she said i would be fine. been on humotrope for 8 or 9 months. i know 3.6 iu's is low, but i think they go by how much you weigh. at the time i stared i was sick at 140... im not to worried about it, but i thought i would let you guys know my experiance.
bluetwistedsteel67
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I took Jino for 3 months of the 12 I've been on Gh and noticed less gains and just didn't feel the same as on soma. Soma just seemed to be more noticable and stronger. Others may have had the opposite experience.loik4 said:
