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Fruits that don't have Fructose?

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Mr.X preaches against the use of Fructose as it's about 4 times more likely to be stored as fat. I thought about including some blueberries in my protein pancake but fructose turns me off because I certainly do not think fat accumulation is worth it.

Are there any fruits with more glucose and less fructose?
 
well i was on atkins for along while
and alternate between atkins and ckd presently depending on whether i am actively losing (ckd) or stalled on a plateau (atkins)

dr atkins believed the consumption of certain fruits to be more beneficial for the body than the fructose content

he believed berries esp blueberries to be so high in antioxidants and selenium that it way outweighed the fructose
selenium by the way he also believed aided in weightloss

fruit that are allowed on the atkins are apples, pears, berries, cherries, peaches and plums
some that i include are starfruit, kiwis, and grapefruit
he believed the fiber in these fruits delayed the absorbtion on the fructose thusly allowing for a lesser insulin spike

but remember just because they are allowed does not suggest to go gungho

a serving is like 13 medium strawberries or a half cup of blueberries or 1/2 apple
and he suggested no more than 3 times a week for the first two or three weeks of introducing them into your diet

in the words of a best bro, bfa "everything in moderation"

mr. x's comments are well founded
peeps like thinks quick and easy so they juice
and juice contains nutrients and fructose but no fiber to slow down the uptake
if you are in ketosis the worse thing to do is spike your insulin
which promotes fat storage

by the way all fruit contain fructose just depends on how much

try it for a few weeks if you see negative results delete them
or save for carb up days
every body is different
 
Nope..........fruit has "fruit sugar" or fructose.........it's from fruit.

If your liver glycogen is totally full, then you may store it as fat, but a little won't hurt you. Depends on your diet..........I know you can't be dieting because even protein pancakes have carbs in them, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.

~SC~
 
~SC~ said:
Nope..........fruit has "fruit sugar" or fructose.........it's from fruit.

If your liver glycogen is totally full, then you may store it as fat, but a little won't hurt you. Depends on your diet..........I know you can't be dieting because even protein pancakes have carbs in them, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.

~SC~
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Thanks SC. BTW: My protein pancakes contain almost ZERO carbs. They are made from protein powder + egg whites + splenda (and sometimes some PB on top) NO Carbs.

I'll try adding some berries though, thanks!
 
blueberries have fiber - keep em they're good!

and fuck the fructose = fat shit.......too much protein gets stored as fat though some process or another. everyone just relax
 
junk said:


Thanks SC. BTW: My protein pancakes contain almost ZERO carbs. They are made from protein powder + egg whites + splenda (and sometimes some PB on top) NO Carbs.
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Mind sending me the recipe?? (amounts N such???)

Sounds like a nice change!

~SC~
 
fruits are not evil !

fiber, vitamins, phytonutrients, ....
and a bit of fructose (but almost nothing compared to the carbs content of snacks)

usually the more colorful they are, the healthier (ie berries)
 
~SC~ said:


Mind sending me the recipe?? (amounts N such???)

Sounds like a nice change!

~SC~
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Hey SC,
there isn't much of a recipe here:
1)I just take one scoop of Ultimate Nutrition Banana Whey protein
(23g protein, 2g carbs), instead of water I 'pour' 3 egg whites to the shaker + some cinnamon and 1 splenda.

2) Seperately I use a hand blender to create 'Whipped Cream' like
from just 1-2 egg whites (takes 2min).

3) I 'fold' the protein egg shake to the whipped cream made
from the egg white.

4) Up to the pan with some cooking spar.

5) Tastes so good and doesn't contain anything but whey, egg whites and splenda.

6) You may serve with some PB on top and some nonfat,nosugar
diet icecream and put some splenda on top.

Turns amazingly tasty.
 
havent had a piece of fruit in over a year....kinda weird, I know, but just don't crave it........now, veggies on the otherhand, go with EVERY meal.........otherwise I'd be starving!
 
faller said:
Fructose is WAY over-rated for producing fat. You are better off eating fruit than not.
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I am with you on this one :)
 
There is a reason high fructose corn syrup has fructose as a derivitive..............

I am not sure what you mean by this.
 
Only joking bro - personally, I stay away, however fruit is relatively low in fructose compared to things like high fructose corn syrups. Fruit sugars are a mix of fructose and other sugars like glucose. Second, the amount of total sugar in fruit is very low. While the body lacks the ability to convert large quantities of fructose to muscle glycogen effectively, it would be very difficult to consume enough fructose in the form of fruit to make this happen. Fruit has an important place in a well balanced diet, no matter what your goals are. It's loaded with vitamins and fibre...
 
fructose is definately over-demonized in BodyBuilding community, just like cortisol, high intensity endurance training, etc. Unless your diet is comprised of high carb intake (like really high) you definately have no reason to fear fructose, or sugars from the fruit, if anything the soluble fibers in fruit will help in glucose disposal :o
 
actually, not true...well to a point...I have a lady at work who eatd nothing but fruit and veggied...honestly.....a little salmon here and there, but fruit is 99% of her diet......makes for a soft stool, lol, but anyways, she's def. not slim and trim.......a grapefruit for bfast, huge bowl of fruit and maybe a little salad for lunch, and then it's steamed veggies/potatoes for dinner.........
 
JKurz1 said:
actually, not true...well to a point...I have a lady at work who eatd nothing but fruit and veggied...honestly.....a little salmon here and there, but fruit is 99% of her diet......makes for a soft stool, lol, but anyways, she's def. not slim and trim.......a grapefruit for bfast, huge bowl of fruit and maybe a little salad for lunch, and then it's steamed veggies/potatoes for dinner.........
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Does she move at all :FRlol:, with that diet and even a little exercise she should slim down. Drop the potatos at dinner and add the salmon or chicken breast.
 
JKurz1 said:
actually, not true...well to a point...I have a lady at work who eatd nothing but fruit and veggied...honestly.....a little salmon here and there, but fruit is 99% of her diet......makes for a soft stool, lol, but anyways, she's def. not slim and trim.......a grapefruit for bfast, huge bowl of fruit and maybe a little salad for lunch, and then it's steamed veggies/potatoes for dinner.........
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anything in moderation

Eating only pinapple or whatever fruit you want is a stupid as eating only at McDo's:D
 
Does this mean I don't have to worry so much about the sugar in the skim milk I drink? (I drink about 4 cups/day)

I see a lot of people here bag on skim milk because the sugar in it has a lot of fructose. It has been a staple for me getting 30-35 grams of my protein each day for the past few years and now you all got me scared.


At work I drink a glass of skim milk with a scoop of ANPB a few times/day it saves me.. dunno what I'd do without it.

Thanks
 
uh oh...another low carb skim milk subscriber.......shit's gonna go scarce.......hey, it's the wonder potion.......
 
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JKurz1

Only joking bro - personally, I stay away, however fruit is relatively low in fructose compared to things like high fructose corn syrups. Fruit sugars are a mix of fructose and other sugars like glucose. Second, the amount of total sugar in fruit is very low. While the body lacks the ability to convert large quantities of fructose to muscle glycogen effectively, it would be very difficult to consume enough fructose in the form of fruit to make this happen. Fruit has an important place in a well balanced diet, no matter what your goals are. It's loaded with vitamins and fibre...


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Excellent post. In addition, there are fruits that have a lower fructose content than those of other fruits. Some of the fruits with with THE LOWEST fructose content and HIGHEST glucose content are bananas, apples, and strawberries.

REMEMBER-->Sucrose IS NO BETTER than fructose, WHY?-------------> SUCROSE--->GLUCOSE + FRUCTOSE


BRAN987: Lactose is a DISACCHARIDE like sucrose. , which is made of 2 smaller single unit sugars called MONOSACHARIDES, except that with lactose it has GALACTOSE as its other monosaccharide as opposed to FRUCTOSE which is found in sucrose.

Another type of dissach is maltose or malt sugar.

Finally.....complex carbs are linked together(as well as dissachs)by a glycosidic linkage via a condesation rxn or by the removal of a water molecule. These complex or long chains of carbs are called "polysaccarides" or STARCH, and has a special linkage called an "alpha glycosydic linkage" between the C1 and C4 carbons, is unbranched and this molecule is also known as amylose. Anthoer highly branched starch with the linkageds between C1 and C6 is called amylopectin is the more common form of animal starch.

The most complesx form and most interesting form of carb for us on this board is Gylcogen. Glycogen is an extremely numbered branched type of stacrh. Our bodies make gycogen to store unused carbs for use later on when our bodies need it and is stored in the liver and muscle (noting that fructose can only be stored in the liver so when liver glycogen is full it convered into fat via gluconeogenisis.....whole point of the thread...)

Sorry for the long ass post, but i thought this might clear up some confusion on carbs.
 
Ok.. thanks Aston.. so the sugar in milk is Lactose.. a more complex sugar made up of simpler sugars.. (glucos + galactos?) got it.

So I guess my next question is.. does Lactose have a pretty significant negative effect glyemically?

Sorry I'm so dense about this stuff.. I'm a financial analyst.. always struggled in science:confused:

just trying to get bigger and not get fat, like everyone else, and wondering if I shouldn't be drinkin' all this skim *sigh*.

Don't worry JKurz.. can't afford the low carb milk.. looked at the store it's $3.50 for half a gallon :mad:

Anyone have a link to a website with the different foods and their glycemic indexes? I used to have a link a couple years ago..
 
http://diabetes.about.com/library/mendosagi/ngilists.htm


http://www.glycemicindex.com/



Bran987 said:
Ok.. thanks Aston.. so the sugar in milk is Lactose.. a more complex sugar made up of simpler sugars.. (glucos + galactos?) got it.

So I guess my next question is.. does Lactose have a pretty significant negative effect glyemically?

Sorry I'm so dense about this stuff.. I'm a financial analyst.. always struggled in science:confused:

just trying to get bigger and not get fat, like everyone else, and wondering if I shouldn't be drinkin' all this skim *sigh*.

Don't worry JKurz.. can't afford the low carb milk.. looked at the store it's $3.50 for half a gallon :mad:

Anyone have a link to a website with the different foods and their glycemic indexes? I used to have a link a couple years ago..
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Milk containing lactose has a low glycemic index. In addition, the glycemic index of foods is effected by other mecrnutrients that are found in the food as well as other components of the food such as protein, fat, and fiber, all of which slow down your bodies absorption of glucose and hense slow reduce the glycemic rating of the food. Also combining foods reduces the glycemic rating of the MEAL. I.E. eating a PB sandwich which has protien, fat and carbs, will absorb quite slowly and have a lower overall GI rating than just the bread itself.

So, yes...its ok to have your skim milk. Its very economical and is an excellent source of protien
 
Humans are the ONLY species on earth that drink the milk of another animal.

Let that sit.

~SC~
 
You meant "we're" also, not were, right??? Too busy mockin' me I suppose......


Aside from your smart-ass reply, the point was that it's not a natural survival tool of any other species. Humans can reason, yes, but many times our actions are indicative of uneccessary functions and practices.

Just look at your lovely President and his "reasoning" in his State of the Union address.


~SC~
 
What i meant by reasoning is that, we domesticated animals that we are able to extract an elixer from that has an abundance of nutrition. Other animals lack the skills necissary to accomlish this. You cant expect a dog or wolf to run up to a sheep or a cow and strat sucking away at it aereolar region. Its just way to dangerous and downright stupid for the preditor to this rathor than just kill the animal. We on the other hand are able to extract the milk, make from it cream, butter, cheese and other dairy products, and then kill the animal and use it s meat.

So back to the original question which ii believe i answered. Unless you have the condition in which your bodies small intestinal epithelial cells have a decline in production of lactase-phlorizin hydrolase (LPH) enzyme, there is not reason for you not use milk in your diet. The previous disorder of LHP,otherwise commonly known as lactose intolerance, is caused by a genitc mutation that turns the LPH gene "off" shortly after infancy.

Hope this helps out your milk question.
 
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