You may try "frontloading" the Eq, as I hear it is slow to bring about results. In fact I think at lower doses you may not see much results for 3 to 5 weeks. I always like to start heavy on EQ and work my way down, adding the Winny later in the cycle to help retain gains and avoid bloating. For me Winny helps with retention towards the middle and later half of a 10 -12week cycle using Eq as a base.