front loading with long esters better?

[Gumaro]

i've been looking about front loading with long acting esters and it looks like you'll get better results with front loading.

here is an example of an 8 week cycle with test enanthate, without front loading and with two 250mg shots a week. (assuming test enanthate has a 10day halflife).

days 1-3 250mg
days 4-7 500mg
days 8-12 750mg
days 13-14 500mg
days 15 750mg
days 16 500mg
days 17-18 750mg
days 19-21 500mg
days 22-23 750mg
days 24 500mg
days 25-26 750mg
days 27-28 500mg
days 29-30 750mg
day 31 500mg
days 32-33 750mg
day 34 500mg
days 35-37 750mg
day 38 500mg
days 39-40 750mg
days 41-42 500mg
day 43 750mg
days 44-45 500mg
days 46-48 750mg
day 49 500mg
days 50-55 750mg
days 56-59 500mg
days 60-62 250mg

total of 50,250mg.

now here is the same cycle with front loading 1g for the first two weeks and followed with 250mg twice a week.

days 1-3 500mg
days 4-7 1000mg
days 8-13 1500mg
day 14 1000mg
days 15-17 1250mg
days 18-20 1000mg
day 21 500mg
days 22-27 750mg
day 28 500mg
days 29-41 750mg
day 42 500mg
days 43-47 750mg
days 48-49 500mg
days 50-51 750mg
day 52 500mg
days 53-54 750mg
days 55-59 500mg
days 60-62 250mg

total of 36,500mg

depsite what anyone says, more does equal better results. and with frontloading you'll get an additional 13,750mg. the downside is that you'll need one extra bottle for the front loading phase. other than that though, you'll have a higher mg per week if you front load. also, youre blood levels will be more steady as the doses frequently go from 500mg to 750mg and back down if you dont front load.

(i may be off a bit on my math)

 

[satchboogie]

ill give some credit for taking the time to write a "????" post..

 

[fugetaboutit]

ill give some credit for taking the time to write a "????" post..

lol

 

[turbogreek]

bro...that was so confusing to read...why dont you just write it out like everybody else does...weekly dosages. honestly i have no idea how much test/week you would be taking.

i will tell you this much:
50,250mg divided by 8 weeks is 6281.25mg/week...thats over 6 grams
and
36,500mg divided by 8 weeks is 4562.5mg/week...thats over 4.5 grams

what r u nuts? not dissing you bro but those are some crazy numbers

 

[trinidad]

You have 50,250 mgs without frontloading and 36,500 mgs with frontloading?

 

[Gumaro]

the build up effect. since long acting esters stay in your body for more than a week, by the fourth week or so you'll have more than, say, 500mg of test in your system. i guess it is confusing the way i explained it there. i'll explain it better when i get home.

 

[Gumaro]

as explained by paul borresen in pump magazine may/june 1999

"the build up effect refers to the increasing concentration of steroids in the body that results from introducing a drug before the last dosage is completely gone. let me illustrate with an example.

suppose you use 200mg of deca each week. one shot of deca provides a constat blood level of the drug for approx. 2 weeks. so, the 1st weel upi jave 200mg in your body. the 2nd week you still have the original 200mg at work, but also and additional 200mg from shot #2- a total of 400mg. then the 3rd week rolls around and while 100mg of shot #1 has left your body, you have another 200mg come into the picture (from shot #3). thats a total of 500mg of deca all at one time. this is the blood level that 200mg per week will maintain.

at 500mg, you will see much more muscle growth than 200mg. this is whats referred to as the build up effect. but it really only applies to long acting sterois like deca and sust. if a steroid degrades at the same rate that you administered it, build up effect is impossible- youc ant add to something that disappears immediately."

add to that twice the dose for your two first weeks of front loading and you get more mg each week. not sure if im still confusing people?

 

[GEEK2FREAK]

go on and take it all in one shot, youll be my hero then.


DO NOT DO IT. Good luck

 

[turbogreek]

bro...i understand the theory behind your math and it makes sense...the only thing i cant understand is:

1st-the uneven amounts in each shot. why not just pick a good solid # 2x/week? if anything...i think with the unbalanced mg's you will have your test levels all over the place. something like 500 or 750 evey monday and every thursday would make more sence...dont you think?

2nd-shit...thats still a shitload of gear bro. thats definately the most i've ever heard of even in some far fetched cycles. thats definately "abuse" bro. lets be realistic. unless you are a genetic freak...you are asking for problems with those cycles. whats your cycle hystory? what r your stats?

shit...this has to be a bullshit post. if it is and you are waisting all of our time then thats fucked up. if not...i don't know what else to tell you...good luck with that!