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Freezing your body after death...

Arabian

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I guess I grasp the basic concept here however how do they expect to accomplish reincarnation from liquid nitrogen?
 
The Scientists are "PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE!"

Oh I crack myself up HA!


Plus they will be dead by the time they attempt to bring them back. So what do they have to fear as far as failure.
 
Who knows? Maybe if your soul leaves it's body (after death) it may be all knowing that in the future it will have to or simply chose to come back to re-inhabit the body it once had. Because science made it possible. If scientists can do this eventually why can't the whole concept of reincarnation evolve as well?
 
If the "Soul" could be proven it existed it would be covered up. Reincarnation will never be proven. I say never because it never will.
 
As far as I know:

The only state that 100% stops movement and chemical changes is absolute zero. And liquid nitrogen doesn't reach that so I imagine the neurons etc will die if frozen in nitrogen.
 
I still can't figure out why people are doing this. Waste of money!
Even "if" it was possible why the hell would you want to come back lets say 40 or 50 yrs later when there is a cure for whatever you died of?? Just what i want to do come back and see my grandchildren old and dying.
 
yep. Well actually you could just reproduce more. and you could be the worlds oldest dad.
 
NJL52 said:
As far as I know:

The only state that 100% stops movement and chemical changes is absolute zero. And liquid nitrogen doesn't reach that so I imagine the neurons etc will die if frozen in nitrogen.


i believe it has something to do with the cell membrane bursting.
ice expands this creates a problem. it is still interesting though.



" Although some animals are able to lower their body temperatures during hibernation, most animals, like people, cannot tolerate freezing temperatures within their body tissues. Normally, when an organism is exposed to below-freezing temperatures, ice forms in smaller blood vessels and either bursts the blood vessels or stretches them beyond the point where they can function normally. In addition, ice in the blood vessels "captures" the water content, making it impossible for the blood cells to survive. Other types of cells are also damaged during freezing. Frostbite is a common malady caused by cold temperatures; frozen skin and blood cells are damaged from the dehydration due to freezing.


Scientists have discovered, however, that some varieties of frogs and turtles can actually survive being frozen. When these animals sense ice on the outsides of their bodies, their livers produce extra glucose (blood sugar), which floods into their cells to protect the cell from freezing and from damage. This also holds the cell's shape so it doesn't collapse upon itself. Nucleating proteins "guide" water out of the cells, allowing the water to go in between the cells and the organs. This allows the water to freeze, but in small pieces, without "spears" that could puncture the cell membrane. "


http://www.mansfieldct.org/schools/mms/staff/hand/heatcryo.htm
 
Do they apply the glucose thing to cryogenic susepnsion then? Like, do they inject a high-glucose solution into the blood before doing so to preserve the cells? That's cool shit.
 
Nathan said:
Do they apply the glucose thing to cryogenic susepnsion then? Like, do they inject a high-glucose solution into the blood before doing so to preserve the cells? That's cool shit.
That is cool..
 
Arabian said:
That is cool..

I wish somebody had an answer. I also wish I weren't too lazy to go read up on the subject and find out for myself. While I am at it, I wish for my own harem of nubile young blondes with big tits and tight bodies. Fuckin A.
 
Didn't know anything about this before now, but reading has peaked my interest. Here is what I have found...

A substance that protects tissues from freezing at sub-zero temperatures (which therefore avoids the issue of water in cells freezing/expanding/exploding) is called a cyroprotectant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryoprotectant

The actual process of creating a sub-freezing point liquid that lacks a solid/crystalline structure is called vitrification. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitrification

There is an interesting article from a couple of years ago that shows that a group have complete cyrogenically frozen a rabbit kidney, then successfull transplanted it into another rabbit!!!! That's pretty goddam cool. http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=23f8a69d76b7e1864e1c606cd0f3b6f6

I do feel sorry for anyone who is currently frozen though. I think they are f@#$ed
 
It certainly sounds liek teh technology isn't there yet and so yeah, whomever is frozen is probably in bad shape. Goodbye Walt Disney.
 
I seriously doubt they will figure it out. Maybe in theory but I doubt anyone in the next 200 being frozen will be revived. BUT hopefully it is figured out.
 
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