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France and WW2

2Thick

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http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=14517

Do you want to know why France did not put up much of a fight against Hitler?

Well, "One million, four hundred thousand French soldiers were killed during World War I. As a result, there weren't many Frenchmen left to fight in World War II. Nevertheless, 100,000 French soldiers lost their lives trying to stop Hitler... They were out-manned, out-gunned, out-generaled and, above all, out-tanked. They got slaughtered, but they stood and they fought."

That sounds like the kind of people I would want on my side.
 
Yea those damned French pussies!....

I personally know of one french pussy that is so upset with the victims of friendly fire that he feels compelled to go to Kuwait or Quotar to save the lives of American, British casualties and whoever else needs his help. He will get no pay. He will leave his cushy office job as Direktor and surgeion of a large hospital in France and risk his life to help people.... ALL PEOPLE.

Why? BECAUSE HE HATES WAR - NOT PEOPLE.

I don't think that I will be able to draw breath until he returns.
 
Nice try 2thick. But trying to educate and change some board members minds is like ramming your head into a wall. They want to think what they want to think and it gives them comfort. A venture outside that comfort zone of ignorance rocks their little world.
 
The french....hahaha

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20030214.asp

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys
by Ted Wade
February 14, 2003

There are many theories to explain the French position on Iraq. Some believe France is trying to retain its access to Iraqi oil. Others believe France is trying to hide its involvement in supplying Saddam’s nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. There are even reports of cash bribes to President Chirac from Baghdad. Many are simply ascribed to based on how low an observer’s opinions are of the French. If this is not part of a duplicitous plot, what could the French be thinking?

The French have proven time and again throughout the 20th Century that their tactical and strategic vision is woefully outdated. During World War I, the French annihilated a generation of their own youth by relying on human wave attacks against machine-guns and modern artillery. Following the war, France used the peace process to so cripple Germany’s economy that the nation was ripe for Hitler’s hate mongering. The French insisted on carving up old empires and creating new countries that have lead to many of today’s problems in the Balkans and the Middle-East.

Prior to World War II the French constructed massive concrete fortifications known as the Maginot Line to stop the Germans. The Germans simply drove around the Maginot Line and conquered France in only six weeks. France also had the largest and most modern army in the world; but its outdated tactics could not withstand the German blitzkrieg.

The democratic allies defeated imperialism in Italy, Germany, and Japan. The French response to their liberation was to enlist Nazi Prisoners of War into the Foreign Legion and dispatch them to enslave a new French Empire in Africa and Asia. This convinced many in the Third-World that the West intended to keep democracy and freedom for itself. In 1956 the French convinced Britain and Israel to join in its unilateral invasion of Egypt. This invasion was launched to embarrass President Nasser of Egypt for supporting Muslim rebels in the French colony Algeria. The only time in UN history that France used its Security Council veto power was to foil a UN resolution to stop their invasion of Egypt. The French unilateral wars against Algeria and Egypt are one of the primary causes of Arab distrust of the West.

Now the country that blundered its way through the 20th Century wants to decide how to deal with the Iraq crisis. They believe that inspectors and sanctions will contain Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)program. They are trying to build a Maginot Line of UN Inspectors to protect themselves from WMD attacks. While this line of defenses, like the last one, may look impressively strong; Saddam has simply mounted his production on trucks and is driving them around the new Maginot Line.

Once again France’s strategic thinking is decades out of date. In the past WMD production and research required huge industrial complexes. Today’s facilities are truck mounted and can be hidden in a million places the inspectors will never look. In the first seven years of inspections the UN found documents to verify that Iraq may have produced ten billion lethal doses of biological toxins. The Iraqis have been able to hide these huge stockpiles from inspectors for twelve years.

In previous wars it took large artillery bombardments to make chemical weapons effective. Today the weapons are more potent and terrorists provide an effective delivery system. Al Qaeda has been caught with plans to add chemical weapons into building ventilation systems. We could assign a UN Inspector to guard every air conditioner in the free world; but would they have the will to stop the slaughter, or would they stand aside and watch the massacre like UN Peacekeepers did at UN Safe Havens in Bosnia.

During their 12 years of inspections the UN has proved Saddam had 36,000 WMD delivery systems he will not account for. The new round of inspections have found 18 of these weapons, with continued inspections they are on pace to find all of Saddam's weapons by September the 11th, of the year 2301. Only a fool or a Frenchman could believe we could contain the weapons for that long.

The French still don’t realize that nations no longer need fleets of inspectable bombers and intercontinental missiles to attack their enemies. For the cost of 19 plane tickets the world’s only superpower was brought to its knees. Now what if those 19 attackers had WMD, how much damage could they do? A Defense Department analyst found that one plane spraying 440 pounds of anthrax over Manhattan would kill 1,000,000 people. Zacarias Moussaoui had the research on his laptop and Mohamed Atta tried to buy the cropduster. Why would Atta try to buy the cropduster unless he had access to WMD? The Czech Republic still affirms that Mohamed Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence chief in early 2001. The Czechs expelled this “diplomat” BEFORE 9-11-01 for providing assistance to terrorists who were planning to attack American and Jewish targets. An intelligence agent, from a hostile nation that is hiding WMD, was assisting Islamic terrorists and met with a suicide bomber who was trying to buy a cropduster to spray WMD. These actions occurred two years ago; yet the French don’t believe their ally Saddam and his alliance with terrorists is an “imminent” threat.

The French have proven they have no interest in containment. They have signed agreements with Saddam to develop Iraqi oil fields when UN sanctions are lifted. Even though the inspectors have proven that Saddam is still hiding WMD; the French have tried on several occasion to have the inspections and sanctions lifted. Hans Blix has stated that he will submit a plan in March to end inspections and lift the sanctions; ending the containment the French and their apologists say will work.

The Maginot Line did not protect France from Germany. It only forced Germany to invade three other countries to get around it. The Maginot Line of Inspectors has failed to stop Saddam for twelve years, and their current pace requires 300 more years. The only question is which countries will be attacked with Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction, while they drive around this new Maginot Line to France. Recent terror alerts suggest Al Qaeda is planning to used WMD. Police throughout the world are on the look out for terrorists using light bulbs and fire extinguishers to spread deadly toxins. It’s beginning to look like the Maginot Line has already been breached.
 
bunnymt said:
Nice try 2thick. But trying to educate and change some board members minds is like ramming your head into a wall. They want to think what they want to think and it gives them comfort. A venture outside that comfort zone of ignorance rocks their little world.

I see what you are saying...look at the post below yours.
 
That's funny, because I've had (France) French people tell me the reason for rolling over was to keep their architecture from being destroyed.
 
kingjohn said:


SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN!!!


Yes the french are very brave!!! Just maybe not too bright!!!!

Yes you are correct - A man who risks his life to do mission work for the Red Cross (as he has done regularly for about 15 years) is extremely dim. He is an orthopedic surgeon with a trauma specialty and an excellent and effective administrator as he has run a FEW hospitals. He often organizes MANY missions throughout the year... and there are many that he actually personally takes an active part in.

Pretty easy to pull a fucking trigger, wouldn't you say? (Please do not misunderstand as my comment is NOT directed to any of our brave serviceman and woman but only towards those that are ignorant.)

But my Frenchman is dim.... AND a pussy because YOU SAID SO.:rolleyes:

I thank the universe that there are many more like him.
 
2Thick said:
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=14517

Do you want to know why France did not put up much of a fight against Hitler?

Well, "One million, four hundred thousand French soldiers were killed during World War I. As a result, there weren't many Frenchmen left to fight in World War II. Nevertheless, 100,000 French soldiers lost their lives trying to stop Hitler... They were out-manned, out-gunned, out-generaled and, above all, out-tanked. They got slaughtered, but they stood and they fought."

That sounds like the kind of people I would want on my side.

Umm. The Germans surrended in November of 1918. Hitler didn't invade France until spring, 1940. That's a 21 year difference which is plenty of time to grow new humans.
 
Re: Re: France and WW2

ariolanine said:


Umm. The Germans surrended in November of 1918. Hitler didn't invade France until spring, 1940. That's a 21 year difference which is plenty of time to grow new humans.

I don't want to argue about statistics because I can not speak too terribly intelligently about them. However, if such a tremendous amount of MEN were killed then 21 years hardly seems a great deal of time for DEAD MEN to sire the next generation... No?

I am sure that there were more than five French guys around to effectively repopulate the country but somehow if I was living in a country that just had it's ass trashed in a world war (that occured all around me as opposed to overseas) perhaps I wouldn't be in a HYUGE hurry to reproduce myself, even IF there were enough "viable men" around to do it.

Of course, like I said my knowledge of statistics could be fit in a thimble and still have room for dinner for 50!
 
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