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[drewmaci]

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Hey guys I just got the app just to check it out to see what people are saying and what not... IM just wondering why the hell everyone on there is saying the baseline for pct is this..... Nolva 40/20/20/20, clomid 100/50/50/50, and some kind of AI. No unleashed, pct, forma, hcgenerate, and on...

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[drewmaci]

Oh forgot to mention it was the forum

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[drewmaci]

Lol okay it won't let me say the name of the forum

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[oxymoron]

So ur talking about another weight/fitness training board?

Other boards/forums are giving the same advice for pct today as they did 20 yrs ago. Advice, knowledge, ideas actually have evolved here at EF for the good.


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[RickRock13]

You are going to get a variety of answers on PCT depending on who you ask. There are even some guys on this forum that still think Nolva is good for PCT. Its good to research and form your best answer for what works. As you know, many of us here support the same PCT which is...

Clomid
Unleashed
Post cycle or Formastanozol
DAA

 

[infraredline]

Hey guys I just got the app just to check it out to see what people are saying and what not... IM just wondering why the hell everyone on there is saying the baseline for pct is this..... Nolva 40/20/20/20, clomid 100/50/50/50, and some kind of AI. No unleashed, pct, forma, hcgenerate, and on...

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Well here are the reasons you don't use nolva
1. It decreases collagen synthesis
2. It is a carcinogen
3. It does nothing to repair HPTA
4. It increases clotting factor which you don't want with an increased RBC (red blood cell count)

So no nolvadex period

Clomid has no need to be run that high, 25mg for 4 weeks is plenty (remember more is not always more)

You could also do torem dosed 90/60/60/30

An AI, either formastanzol or 12.5mg of aromasin

Post cycle unleashed combo

D-aspartic acid

 

[stevesmi]

Re: forum

thats the laziest pct you could run.

in the year 2012 how could you run a cycle without using hcg or hmg to help kickstart pct?

 

[nb01741]

Re: forum

EF is really the only forum that uses Unleashed etc...90% of people that juice think nolva, clomid, and hcg is a perfect PCT and that's what they use. Have you never been to another forum? lol

 

[badboybounce]

for accurate pct advice contact isteroid he has nolva buy 1 get 34 free

 

[infraredline]

EF is really the only forum that uses Unleashed etc...90% of people that juice think nolva, clomid, and hcg is a perfect PCT and that's what they use. Have you never been to another forum? lol

I am fully aware of this as I belong to another forum and if you choose to listen to them feel free to and you will end up taking 3 steps forward and 2 steps backwards

At elite fitness we don't believe in that technique and much prefer to stay 3 steps forward and continue to progress

This is the protocol you need to follow if you want to maximize your recovery an keep your on cycle gains on a standard 12 week test cycle

Test e 1-12 500mg (250mg mon 250 thurs)
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod
9-12 hcgenerate
13-14 hcg 1000iu a week
15-18 clomid 25mg ed
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
15-18 formastanzol
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
13-20 ostarine 15-25mg ed

If you read my previous post I listed exactly why we don't use nolvadex and why it is ineffective

But hey if you wanna use nolvadex and way overdose clomid and stay in the 80's then feel free to go talk to isteroids, he'd love to have another friend talk about nolvadex with while he doesn't recover properly from cycles haha

 

[drewmaci]

Lol guys I totally understand how a great pct should be. IM just saying it's crazy that people won't open there minds for a change

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[infraredline]

Lol guys I totally understand how a great pct should be. IM just saying it's crazy that people won't open there minds for a change

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It's truly amazing I know, but that's just people, most are closed minded

If I've learned anything it's that being closed minded is not the answer to any aspect of life

 

[nb01741]

Re: forum

I am fully aware of this as I belong to another forum and if you choose to listen to them feel free to and you will end up taking 3 steps forward and 2 steps backwards

At elite fitness we don't believe in that technique and much prefer to stay 3 steps forward and continue to progress

This is the protocol you need to follow if you want to maximize your recovery an keep your on cycle gains on a standard 12 week test cycle

Test e 1-12 500mg (250mg mon 250 thurs)
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod
9-12 hcgenerate
13-14 hcg 1000iu a week
15-18 clomid 25mg ed
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
15-18 formastanzol
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
13-20 ostarine 15-25mg ed

If you read my previous post I listed exactly why we don't use nolvadex and why it is ineffective

But hey if you wanna use nolvadex and way overdose clomid and stay in the 80's then feel free to go talk to isteroids, he'd love to have another friend talk about nolvadex with while he doesn't recover properly from cycles haha

no shit. no one ever said that's what they believe is best? I said that's what other forums suggest. Trust me I think we all know what a "perfect PCT" is here on elite seeing that it recommends it in every thread.