for those using ALA

[HappyScrappy]

ALA is good stuff. yay.
it does liver things - yay.
it does nutrient partitioning - yay.

but it also does cancellation of free redicals - which is good.
it is excellent if you are supplementing with l-arginine (or the oginine (sp?)) - those increase levels of Peroxynitrate in your system and that is bad - but ALA will negate that.

but high levels of l-arginine also produce higher levels of NO, which is a good thing in terms of many things - but most importantly hgh release and erections.

but ALA, among the many things it helps get rid of when you take it, gets rid of nitric oxide from your system... which is all fantastic if you didn't need it - but you can't get an erection without NO in your system.

so anyway, just was reading about this and thought I'd toss it up here.
(too lazy to switch to the AS board)

 

[the nature boy]

boners.

 

[HappyScrappy]

yeah, so if you are cranking down the ALA and wondering why your noodle is limp - perhaps you have a reason there.

I'm not sure how much the NO levels fluctuate throughout the day and how long or to what extent the ALA hits it.
just know that it is one of the things it cleans out.

I also know that I like this song:
Mos Def feat. Macy Gray - I've Committed Murder (Gangstar Remix).mp3

 

[The Shadow]

ALA is good stuff. yay.
it does liver things - yay.
it does nutrient partitioning - yay.

but it also does cancellation of free redicals - which is good.
it is excellent if you are supplementing with l-arginine (or the oginine (sp?)) - those increase levels of Peroxynitrate in your system and that is bad - but ALA will negate that.

but high levels of l-arginine also produce higher levels of NO, which is a good thing in terms of many things - but most importantly hgh release and erections.

but ALA, among the many things it helps get rid of when you take it, gets rid of nitric oxide from your system... which is all fantastic if you didn't need it - but you can't get an erection without NO in your system.

so anyway, just was reading about this and thought I'd toss it up here.
(too lazy to switch to the AS board)

Good post.

Supplementing with arginine would be a good idea......

 

[HappyScrappy]

l-arginine also helps wounds heal faster - but it also will kick herpes in if you have that in your system - if you have the oral legions, there is medicine to suppress that, but there is nothing to help the brain legions - so if you have those - avoid the l-arginine....

 

[satanic goatslayer]

I have legions of old people ready to die for aspirin.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

why? the picture makes me laugh.

P.S. No probs w/ ALA so far, other than getting into ketosis...

 

[HappyScrappy]

I've been using 600-1000mg with every meal and I have to take in at least 400g of carbs every day just so I don't pass out.
don't know about ketosis - but I know that if I fight the passing out and do that at 200 or fewer carbs, then I smell amonia in the shower after working out - meaning my body is burning protein for fuel.

the end.

as for boners - I don't know if it from my abuse of viagra for so long or if it is all the ALA

 

[addickt]

I've been using 600-1000mg with every meal and I have to take in at least 400g of carbs every day just so I don't pass out.
don't know about ketosis - but I know that if I fight the passing out and do that at 200 or fewer carbs, then I smell amonia in the shower after working out - meaning my body is burning protein for fuel.

the end.

as for boners - I don't know if it from my abuse of viagra for so long or if it is all the ALA

When the viagra fails.. There are always popsicle sticks and masking tape.

 

[HappyScrappy]

so I wrap the masking tape around my face - I got that... do the popsicle sticks go up my ass? I sure hope so.

that is why I'm gonna try the l-arginine hcl... I'll post any results... maybe.

 

[danielson]

so I wrap the masking tape around my face - I got that... do the popsicle sticks go up my ass? I sure hope so.

that is why I'm gonna try the l-arginine hcl... I'll post any results... maybe.

 

[BackDoc]

NO doesn't last long as it is in the human body as it is broken down into nitrogen compounds rather rapidly. If it interferes with NO release or action then we would probably see neurological disorders, gastrointestinal disorders, cardiac disorders--pretty much the physiological gamut that NO affects. However, it may speed the removal of NO and related compounds thus making it easier on kidney filtration rate.

It may however, end up requiring that arginine be taken additionally.

Extremely interesting subject.

 

[the nature boy]

damn, now I have to take arganine now. next I have to take something because the arganine is doing some shit too. it's an endless cycle.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I thought I was in ketosis at first too, but I wasn't -- you won't know for sure unless you measure with the ketostix.

I'm taking between 2-3 grams a day, am in trace ketosis (as measured by ketostix) and have no problems in the wood department...

I understand that HS has been soft and flaccid for some time though...

 

[HappyScrappy]

you son of a bitch - SMALL AND FLACCID and you know it.

actually, I'm coming off of cycle still, although nearly done with clomid - so anything was likely due to that - things seem to be fine now.
but since I don't do stuff anymore I was looking into regular supplements and decided that protein and ALA were all I was gonna do.
then I started expanding on that list and was reading about what things to do when taking other various things. when you take l-arginine is must increase cell turnover b/c it helps in healing, but also increases tumor growth - as well as cranking out the free radicals.
as I was then reading up on dealing with the free radicals, the best way is with ALA or to stop taking what is causing the free radicals... so I was like, hot damn, already taking ALA.
then when reading up on the actions it did, I saw NO in the list, which was part of the reason for taking l-arginine in the first place.

bounce bounce bounce

 

[HappyScrappy]

and for the record I own the url "www.smallandflaccid.com" too.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I've been taking ALA for... hmm, well, I'm through one kilosports tub of it and on my way into the other now... so that is 1000 caps.
at 6 caps per meal, 6 meals a day, that is 36 caps a day.
1000 caps divided by 36... my head hurts.... 27 days...
but it has been longer than that since I was doing lower doses initially and also took time off from it.

but at least the last few weeks for sure have seen that if I go for 3 days with carbs at or below 200 - esp under 180, then I can barely make it through the day - just want to pass out and it is very hard to make it.
but if I get them up over 400 with anything from granola bars to cranberry juice, then I can make it through the day.

if I go to 180 or fewer carbs, then I smell ammonia coming off of me for the rest of the day from the post workout shower on.
I wasn't sure if it was just due to high protein intake (when your body burns protein the nitrogen release leads to conversion to ammonia which is released into your urea... isn't urea just ammonia anyway - and that is released via sweat and piss), or if I was burning muscles.
I upped my carbs and I stopped smelling the ammonia.
I'm not quite as cut as I was - but that could be water, or it could be fat - but at this point I don't really care.

 

[WODIN]

HS....

You might want to add l-ornithine and l-tryptophan to your diabolical amino mix take these two at night. Havoc turned me on to this nice combo, not only did I thin out quite a bit but I also slept great.


General info.

You can't take l-tryp though if your on an ssri or mao inhibitor such as paxil or zoloft. Make brain go PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT!!!!

 

[HappyScrappy]

l-ornithine converts to l-arginine in an about 1:2 ratio, but a combination of both is synergystically even better.
so I will be doing that with glutamine at night with orange juice on an empty stomach.
might add GABA in at 5+grams later on, but will try this for now.

I refuse to touch l-tryptophan in a supplemental form (will stick to milk and turkey for now). it is what is needed in order for the body to generate seratonin and my seratonin levels are already suffficiently fucked up

 

[WODIN]

I decided that I love you too much to leave DOT.

LMAO!!!


My experience has been a better quality of rest.

I take 500 mg at night and I'm asleep in 2 minutes!!! That with the zing/mag combo and I am in a coma!

 

[addickt]

I decided that I love you too much to leave DOT.

LMAO!!!


My experience has been a better quality of rest.

I take 500 mg at night and I'm asleep in 2 minutes!!! That with the zing/mag combo and I am in a coma!

I use the ZIG/ZAG combo to get comatose occasionally...

 

[Taps]

OK, I don't understand fuck all about what you guys are talking about 'cause I'm fucking stupid....but if ALA causes the cancellation of free redicals, then it would of great benifit during a DNP cycle, right?

Btw, Scrappy, good to see you posting again. You homo.

 

[HappyScrappy]

yes, if doing DNP then you definitely want to be running ALA at 600-1000 a day.

as for my homo self posting - it is only when I'm bored.

I only left before due to certain reasons - but since I no longer do any drugs or have any drugs in my house, that matter is moot and I don't give a shit what people know about me.

the end.

 

[saint808]

yes, if doing DNP then you definitely want to be running ALA at 600-1000 a day.

as for my homo self posting - it is only when I'm bored.

I only left before due to certain reasons - but since I no longer do any drugs or have any drugs in my house, that matter is moot and I don't give a shit what people know about me.

the end.

so you are coming out of the closet too?

 

[Taps]

ALA at a gram a day. Fuck, along with pyruvate and all the vitamins that DNP cycle I had planned is looking expensive.

Anyway, glad your back HS. Even if you can't hook me up with smack anymore.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I'll gladly come out of the closet. it was cold in there.
but I refuse to put any pants on, and I demand to be untied.

when I did dnp in the past, all I did with it was ALA and fruit and 400+ carbs - other than that, I didn't pay too much attention.
if you are hardcore you can do all the various things and add in glycerin as well (helps keep water in your system - cyclists were big on it a few years back, not sure if they still are).

the main thing with dnp is go low and slow.
same thing with jarts.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

ALA at a gram a day. Fuck, along with pyruvate and all the vitamins that DNP cycle I had planned is looking expensive.

Anyway, glad your back HS. Even if you can't hook me up with smack anymore.

Go here:
https://www2.acadia.net/cgi-bin/BAC/web_store.cgi

Cheapest prices I have ever seen on a lot of things; I'm using their ALA, good stuff (powder); 50 grams for $16. At that price, you can afford to go multi-gram per day -- I found 2+ grams as the optimal dose for me.

 

[HappyScrappy]

it isn't capped though right? I just use kilosports b/c I know it works. I hate the BAC interface - so I just haven't bought from there.
I know kilosports had an issue with some of the prohormones recently (animals board discusses this) - but I really don't use those at all - so I will hope that the other shit is legit.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

it isn't capped though right? I just use kilosports b/c I know it works. I hate the BAC interface - so I just haven't bought from there.
I know kilosports had an issue with some of the prohormones recently (animals board discusses this) - but I really don't use those at all - so I will hope that the other shit is legit.

The interface is pretty generic, but it's not rocket science by any means; type in code 508.9 under the search and it will bring it right up (or type ALA/ alpha lipoic acid). Also, do some browsing over there they have a lot of kick-ass shit. No it's not capped, but it's not an issue, a couple of silica packs and not keeping the bottle open works fine. It won't have time to degrade.

Kilosport is suspect to me precisely because of the PH thing. I've also heard mixed reports (mostly good) from people on KS ALA. I haven't heard any negs on BAC ALA from anybody taking it, it's working well for me -- and it's a whole lot cheaper... you just don't get the caps of any fancy packaging...

 

[spongebob]

I thought I was in ketosis at first too, but I wasn't -- you won't know for sure unless you measure with the ketostix.

i got ketosis once. me and billy took some of his paws moonshine and drank the whole jug. we were sitting in the barn just a hooting and a holloring. but i told him he wasnt putting his ketosix anywhere near me. boy did we have a headache the next morning.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

i got ketosis once. me and billy took some of his paws moonshine and drank the whole jug. we were sitting in the barn just a hooting and a holloring. but i told him he wasnt putting his ketosix anywhere near me. boy did we have a headache the next morning.

lol... probably a good call on your part...