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For those thinking of taking Clen, please read!

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Clenbuterol is used to treat asthma and is very popular with bodybuilders because it increases muscle growth, boots energy levels, and cuts fat. It is a beta-2 antagonist, which means that is has effects similar to the fight-or-flight hormone adrenaline. It builds muscle by promoting specific signaling pathways inside the cells that activate protein synthesis and modifies protein breakdown, remodeling and repair. It decreases body fat by binding with the adrenaline receptors in fat cells which promotes fat breakdown and release.

Clenbuterol can have NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS on the heart and blood vessels. Emergency room physicians from the University of California, Davis Medical Center, led by Patrick Daubert, reported the case of a bodybuilder who overdosed on Clenbuterol and had severe cardiovascular effects. He reported to the emergency department after taking 1.5ml of Ventipulin (brand name for Clenbuterol), which is 10 times the normal dose. He had a resting heart rate of 254 beats per minute and exhibited a life-threatening heart rhythm called ventricular tachycardia. His electrocardiogram (measures electrical impulses in the heart) was still abnormal 16 hours after taking this drug and didn’t normalize until 3 days later (due in part to long half-life of Clenbuterol, 18-36 hours). A Rutgers study on racehorses showed that Clenbuterol could cause heart failure. Clenbuterol is a potentially dangerous drug when taken in higher than recommended doses and should not be taken lightly by bodybuilders. (Journal Medical Toxicology, 3: 56-60, 2007)
 
yeah well when u take 10x the recommened dosage what do you expect.. let me guess he has an pre exisiting heart condition as well.. ...
 
dmastrop said:
yeah well when u take 10x the recommened dosage what do you expect.. let me guess he has an pre exisiting heart condition as well.. ...

who knows if he did.

BTW 10X the recommended dose is 10X of the therapeutic dose not 10X the bodybuilding dose (which is very close to this level).
 
I always believed Clenbuterol was not very anabolic if at all in fact. I was of the opinion it had anti-catabolic effects which allowed the body to utilize fat stores for energy rather than muscle.

The 1 1/2mls quoted is about what is taken by a lot of BB'ers. I am currently on 150mcgs/day myself which is 1 1/2mls for the product I have.
 
I just got like 500 pills and hope to include them in my cutting cycle....I will start at a small amount and hopefully won't overdoze....
 
elcamello said:
I just got like 500 pills and hope to include them in my cutting cycle....I will start at a small amount and hopefully won't overdoze....

Always a good idea to cycle up with clen slowly, especially if you have not done before so you get a handle on the sides.
 
Access said:
I always believed Clenbuterol was not very anabolic if at all in fact. I was of the opinion it had anti-catabolic effects which allowed the body to utilize fat stores for energy rather than muscle.

The 1 1/2mls quoted is about what is taken by a lot of BB'ers. I am currently on 150mcgs/day myself which is 1 1/2mls for the product I have.


There seems to be anecdotal evidence that it is anabolic but I doubt many bb's will ever notice its effect if they are used to running test. Plus clen is usually used on a calorie deficient diet so in this case (as long as u are not too deficient) it will act as an anti-catabolic. I typically run a small dose of test with mine as it sometimes works a little too well at helping lose the weight.

I am not sure what the dose per ml was. It probably was 200mg/ml. Since the typical therapeutic dose is around 10-60mcg ed (based on body weight usually) that would put 150mg close to 10X. I have personally used 200mcg ed (tapered up to this dose) and only stayed there for about 3 weeks with no ill effects. I have noticed a difference between dosage strength of liquid versus tablet. It seems the liquid stuff in general is underdosed.
 
elcamello said:
I just got like 500 pills and hope to include them in my cutting cycle....I will start at a small amount and hopefully won't overdoze....


If u need any help laying out a dosage schedule, let me know.
 
I learn something new everyday. I was given this med years ago. It made me SICK and anxious.
Call me nuts, but why the hell would bodybuilders risk so much to lose body fat? There are so many natural and SAFE products on the market to lose body fat.
 
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