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For those on HRT and who cycle while on

Those who read my postings know I move from 8 weeks HRT to 8-10 weeks of a cycle throughout the year. I am on HGH continuously.

I just finished test/eq/tbol stack for 8 weeks and am now in HRT for upcoming blood testing.

I stay around a grand total of 500-600 mg p/w on a cycle and 100 mg p/w on HRT.

Diet plays a big part also. I turn the dial on fast carbos for the results I want.
 
The 8 weeks on/8 weeks off seems like a good idea, but I would only do that if using short acting esters for the 8 weeks on. For example, EQ for 8 weeks wouldn't seem like the best choice. Similary, instead of Deca, use NPP.

If you're running a longer cycle due to longer esters, you may want to wait a little longer to go back on just so you have a decent amount of time with lower, stable levels.
 
I personally don't think that it is too long I usually run my cycles for 12 weeks it seems that I get my best benefit between the 8-12th week. I think that if you don't have many orals you can cycle longer.
Mastro
 
12 weeks is not too long to cycle EQ, since it's ester is so long. Ultimately, take a look at your various objectives, weigh them so that the highest priorities are on the top, and then select compounds and durations that best meet those objectives.

If 8 weeks on/8 weeks off is the highest priority, simply use short esters. Unfortunately, EQ's short ester counterpart, bold prop, is not a good option, because it gives just about everyone terrible flu symptoms and substantial pain. I have no idea why, but everything I've read says the same thing. Bold cyp is out there, but it's still a long chain ester compared to the prop.

good luck.
 
liftr486 said:
is 12 wks on 12 wks off too long to be on a high dose?


At what intervals (how many months) do you need to get tested? Every 3-months is common, at least in the first year or so. I would also do 8 weeks, also running shorter esters... then take the last 4 weeks before bloodwork to come back down to HRT levels... in fact, I'm going to try out this plan right after I get my first bloodwork done next week (it will have been exactly one month since I got onto HRT!)...after that, I get tested again in 3-4 months
 
njmuscleguy said:
At what intervals (how many months) do you need to get tested? Every 3-months is common, at least in the first year or so. I would also do 8 weeks, also running shorter esters... then take the last 4 weeks before bloodwork to come back down to HRT levels... in fact, I'm going to try out this plan right after I get my first bloodwork done next week (it will have been exactly one month since I got onto HRT!)...after that, I get tested again in 3-4 months

I test out every 4 months and make dam sure at least 4 weeks have gone by since I have stopped my cycle. I use blood pressure and urine volume output as rough indicators that my measurements will be consistent.

When I'm on cycle, my bp climbs to 150. Then it slowly comes down to below 120/70. And I get a lot of urine released over about a 3 day period in the third week. With these two in place, I go get tested.

My last test was Tuesday ... 23 vials. Results back in 2 weeks.
 
Well, just finished a short 4 week cycle of t prop, tren a, and var.
I get tested every 6 weeks, but there was a mix up with my last
script. They forgot my order and when I called, I told them that I was going out of town for 9 days and would pick it up then.

This extra time extended my testing date out about two weeks. I used short
ester gear. (150 mg prop, 120 mg Tren a) every other day plus 40 mg var a day. I could not feel the tren til I increased it to 120 mg eod. I gained 12 lbs of weight and tightened my belt 2 holes. Used two shirts per night, and I coughed enough to concern my wife. It was amazing! I have alot of cycle experience in my past. Gram a bol, hgh, etc.... I really leaned up and experienced No sexual side effects from the tren. Db stability ball press went from 120's for three sets of 8 to 120's for three sets of 15! Great recovery, no ACNE, and a very happy/satisfied wife. I will stay @ 100 mg of cyp for 3 weeks and test on week 4. Tren A was amazing. The pumps (Var???) were pretty hard to deal with. But it has been an amazing ride.

I hope to do another cycle in a couple months. I will work hard to keep these gains and save up some of my extra cyp for a later date. I only use 100 mg every week even though the script is for 200 mg.

4 weeks cycle is a real alternative to long cycles. Noticable strength began to increase by day 13 or 14.
 
sman275 said:
Well, just finished a short 4 week cycle of t testosterone propionate, trenbolone a, and Anavar - oxandrolone - .
I get tested every 6 weeks, but there was a mix up with my last
script. They forgot my order and when I called, I told them that I was going out of town for 9 days and would pick it up then.

This extra time extended my testing date out about two weeks. I used short
ester gear. (150 mg testosterone propionate, 120 mg Tren a) every other day plus 40 mg Anavar - oxandrolone - a day. I could not feel the trenbolone til I increased it to 120 mg eod. I gained 12 lbs of weight and tightened my belt 2 holes. Used two shirts per night, and I coughed enough to concern my wife. It was amazing! I have alot of cycle experience in my past. Gram a bol, human growth hormone - somatropin - , etc.... I really leaned up and experienced No sexual side effects from the trenbolone. Db stability ball press went from 120's for three sets of 8 to 120's for three sets of 15! Great recovery, no ACNE, and a very happy/satisfied wife. I will stay @ 100 mg of testosterone cypionate for 3 weeks and test on week 4. Tren A was amazing. The pumps (Var???) were pretty hard to deal with. But it has been an amazing ride.

I hope to do another cycle in a couple months. I will work hard to keep these gains and save up some of my extra testosterone cypionate for a later date. I only use 100 mg every week even though the script is for 200 mg.

4 weeks cycle is a real alternative to long cycles. Noticable strength began to increase by day 13 or 14.

I'm assuming it's much easier to keep your gains while on HRT? Also is there any point to PCT if you're just dropping the dose to 100mgs?
 
I'm coming off a 16 week cycle. Heavy duty combos:

Dbol 4 weeks
Test Prop 16 weeks
Tren A 10 weeks* Yee Haaa!
Mast 10 weeks
4 iu's hgh/ ED everyday forever
Proviron .50mg /ED
Halo 20mg/ ED 3 weeks * Yee Haaa!

Now it's back to 150mg Test E/ wk. HCG and Proviron . Next 4 months.
 
Are you on a doctor-imposed/regulated HRT? How often do you get tested? Any pics to show progress?
 
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