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For Those Considering DNP

bigguns7

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Why does everyone keep calling DNP a "drug?" Just because you swallow it and it causes changes in your body does not mean it is a "drug." If you swallow paint thinner, it will cause your body to react, but it is not a "drug."

Dinitrophenol is an industrial chemical, NOT A DRUG.

If you're going to take it, be responsible (or as responsible as someone can be when swallowing industrial chemicals for weight loss). It's your choice, but don't put DNP in a class with just any other dangerous drug when it's not a drug at all.

No disprespect intended to the experienced posters on this board, as some are very authoritative figures, but those same people need to respect the confidence and faith that less experienced board members put in them for accurate information.

Here is some info from the EPA on dinitrophenol. It is called an "hazardous air pollutant," not a "drug."

CAUTION: Unless otherwise noted, the quantitative information on these fact sheets are from "EPA Health Effects Notebook for Hazardous Air Pollutants-Draft", EPA-452/D-95-00, PB95-503579, December 1994." Please conduct a current literature search and check the appropriate current online database for the most recent quantitative information.


2,4-Dinitrophenol is considered to be highly toxic to humans, with a lethal oral dose of 14 to 43 mg/kg.

The acute (short-term) effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans through oral exposure consist of nausea, vomiting, sweating, dizziness, headaches, and loss of weight.

Long-term oral exposure to 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans has resulted in the formation of cataracts and skin lesions and has caused effects on the bone marrow, central nervous system (CNS), and cardiovascular system.

The Reference Dose (RfD) for 2,4-dinitrophenol is 0.002 mg/kg/d.a

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates that consumption of this dose or less, over a lifetime, would not likely result in the occurrence of chronic, noncancer effects.b
EPA has determined that there are inadequate data for the establishment of a Reference Concentration (RfC) for 2,4-dinitrophenol.

No information is available on the developmental or reproductive effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. Animal studies have reported fetal growth inhibition, but no birth defects in the offspring of animals fed 2,4-dinitrophenol.

No information is available on the carcinogenic effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. The limited animal data have not noted tumor formation in animals fed 2,4-dinitrophenol. EPA has not classified 2,4-dinitrophenol for carcinogenicity.

Inhalation studies are not available for 2,4-dinitrophenol. However, oral studies are available and a risk management decision can be made to assume that the hazards resulting from oral exposure may be indicative of that resulting from inhalation exposure.

I'm not preaching doomsday for DNP users, I'm not even saying not to use it, I'm just saying that it's not a just a superstrong form of a weight loss drug like Meridia or Phenterimine or Clen or T3. It's a chemical, used to make TNT and insecticides. DNP is not and never has been a drug designed for human consumption.
 
With all due respect, I have something to say. You seem pretty stuck on symantics and what is and is not a drug, so let me spell it out for you.

drug
Browse the words alphabetically around "drug"
See entries that contain "drug"

Syllables: drug

Parts of speech: noun , transitive verb

Part of Speech: noun

Pronunciation: druhg

Definition
1.
a chemical substance used to cure or heal; medicine.

Crossref. Syn.

stimulus , medicine

Definition
2. a substance that causes a chemical change in the body and may be addictive; narcotic. Crossref. Syn. dope , stimulus

Now by definition number 2, wouldnt DNP be considered a drug since it causes a chemical change in the body?!?!?!?
 
Well Zyg, touche, I guess it is a drug according to the second definition. I guess you've given me a taste of my own medicine, or should I say drug?

Farbeit from me to contradict Mr. Webster, but by that definition, gasoline, bleach, hairspray, toothpaste, any liquid and almost any food would be a drug.

The idea still remains. In another post entitled "A Death from DNP" you said "a prescription from the doc can kill you as well, yet we never think twice about popping pills they subscribe," and then followed that by saying "we are using DNP a little outside its intended purpose."

Your first statement was a bad analogy, and your second was a terrible understatement.

Again, I don't wish to demean your intelligence or your generous input on this board. i'm just saying that all that an inexperienced user needs is for a knowledgeable person like you to say that it is okay and he will immediately take the drug, even if he does do it responsibly.

As far as that goes, "How can we swallow an insecticide/TNT precursor responsibly?"
 
Actually DNP is dangerous. It can kill you, as can AS!!!

The problem is people like to have a casual attitude towards AS, and so DNP scares them, cause they think "If it can kill you- I don't wanna fuck with that!"

AS can be just as dangerous, but they may take longer to kill you!! Am I slammin AS- fuck no!! What I am saying is with all these drugs or chemicals DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH!!!!

I see kids in here all the time acting like AS are Tic-Tacs- they are not. Give these things (ALL OF THEM) the respect they deserve!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm not preaching doomsday for DNP users, I'm not even saying not to use it, I'm just saying that it's not a just a superstrong form of a weight loss drug like Meridia or Phenterimine or Clen or T3. It's a chemical, used to make TNT and insecticides. DNP is not and never has been a drug designed for human consumption. [/B]


Wasn't DNP used in weightloss formulas until they found it caused cataracts?
 
The idea still remains. In another post entitled "A Death from DNP" you said "a prescription from the doc can kill you as well, yet we never think twice about popping pills they subscribe," and then followed that by saying "we are using DNP a little outside its intended purpose."

Your first statement was a bad analogy, and your second was a terrible understatement.

You may consider it a bad analogy, but tell that to all the children with birth defects or those that got polio from vacinations. How about the thalidamide babies, what about fen fen. The list goes on and on, so dont sit there and try and tell me just cuase the FDA or uncle sam says its ok to take that it cant have dire effects, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

As for my second being a terrible understatement, as already pointed out, DNP WAS used in diet aids in the past so at one time it was considered safe, but as we all know the human race is full of people who lack the common sense.

Im really not an experienced DNP user, just about to start my first run. I by no means intended to imply DNP can not be dangerous. Once again your argueing point of view and semantics and there is no right or wrong. Dont get me wrong here I am not saying DNP is a toy or like aspirine, but I believe a lot of the dommsayers who speak against it are simply ill informed and/or undereducated on it.

After all, why does coka cola clean my toilet better than toilet cleaner. Why is it that toothpaste has chemicals in it that can kill you, once again the list goes on.

DNP doesnt kill people! People kill people with thier own stupidity!
 
DNP was a prescription drug. Incidence of cataracts was not outside of population norms- DNP may have made cataracts WORSE- as incidents were described as severe.

DNP is a toxin
DNP is a poison
DNP is a chemical
DNP is a pesticide
DNP is a drug

DNP can be dangerous, like any other drug- many of whose effective dosages are are also 15-20% of LD50 (lethal dosage for 50% of takers)

DNP is effective at any dosage- perhaps very low dosage long cycles are the best for health and safety reasons. Many use higher doses becuase americans are impatient- the world they live in moves too fast to have to wait to lose weight.

DNP is a weight loss DRUG, perhaps no longer FDA approved... but knowing how that organization works and who foots their bill one might want to reconsider the true value of their "approval".

peace
 
It just blows my mind how so many people think the drugs were are prescribed are safe, yet others are not.
 
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