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Fluoride & Thyroid disease

Fluoride and Thyroid Disease / With Drs. Richard and Karilee Shames
From Mary Shomon,
Your Guide to Thyroid Disease.
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by Mary J. Shomon

Richard Shames, M.D. graduated from Harvard and University of Pennsylvania, did research at the National Institutes of Health with Nobel Prize winner Marshall Nirenberg, and has been in private practice for twenty-five years.

  • A statement released January 2, 1997 from the EPA reads: “…indicates a causal link between fluoride/fluoridation and cancer, genetic damage, neurological impairment, and bone pathology”
  • Original research intended to support the initial addition of fluoride into drinking water was flawed.
  • Nazi concentration camps used fluoridated water to suppress the will and vigor of inmates
  • The thyroid epidemic could be due largely to the excessive harmful chemicals in our food, air, and water, confusing and stressing our immune systems
  • Not everyone needs to avoid fluoride like the plague, but thyroid sufferers should

More detailed information about fluoridation and thyroidism can be found in [link url=http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/shamesfluoride.htm]Thyroid and Fluoride -- A Comprehensive Online Guide[/link]

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/shames/a/fluoride.htm


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Starting in the 1930s and extending through to the 1970s, fluoride was utilized by European and South American doctors as a drug to treat HYPER-thyroidism (over-active thyroid).

Of concern today in the United States, and other highly fluoridated countries, is the fact that some people are now regularly receiving doses of fluoride that overlap, and exceed, the doses once shown to reduce the activity of the thyroid.

Whereas doses of 2 to 5 mg/day of fluoride were shown effective at depressing thyroid function, adults in fluoridated communities in the U.S. are now regularly receiving between 1.6 and 6.6 mg/day according to a 1991 report from the Department of Health and Human Services.

While it may be that the thyroid in a patient with hyperthyroidism is particularly susceptible to the anti-thyroid actions of fluoride, there is concern that current fluoride exposures may be playing a role in the widespread incidence of HYPO-thyroidism (under-active thyroid) in the U.S.

Hypothyrodisim, most commonly diagnosed in women over 40, is a serious condition with a diverse range of symptoms including: fatigue, depression, weight gain, hair loss, muscle pains, increased levels of "bad" cholesterol (LDL), and heart disease.. The drug (Synthroid) used to treat hypothyroidism is now one of the top five prescribed drugs in the U.S.


http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/thyroid/
 
A lot of people still dont know about this; it's as bad as chlorine water. I just found out about this article not too long ago myself and never drink tap water anyways; it taste like shit.
 
Wow Ive dropped 70lb this year and I drink like 1-2 gallons a day of tap water. Should I worry about this? Will a filter help? I am not going to guy buy 1-2 gallons of water everyday.
 
harbinator said:
Wow Ive dropped 70lb this year and I drink like 1-2 gallons a day of tap water. Should I worry about this? Will a filter help? I am not going to guy buy 1-2 gallons of water everyday.


The thing is, i've searched for regular filters, and they all mentions all these things they filter out, except for fluoride.

I guess the only real water filters that actually work are the ones you order online that are around 100 dollars and up.

I just by the reverse osmosis water that cost like 30 cents a gallon.

Also, avoid toothpaste that contains fluoride.

Whats fucked up, is that when you go to supermarkets, you see the baby gallon water, and it advertises "WITH ADDED FLUORIDE!" LOL
 
I have a bunch of stuff on fluoride in water. Not a big fan of it. I believe in Europe they don't do this anymore. I will try to dig up some of my stuff. Interesting reading to say the least.
 
Here is one, from one of my favorite guys...

Dangers of Fluoride in Our Public Water

The tinseltown fluoride fiasco

I've been sounding the alarm about the dangers of fluoride in our public water for nigh on 30 years, but has anyone heard? Nope. The power of the dental lobby and the big fluoride-producing industries (like Alcoa, Grumman, and other aluminum makers) has drowned out like-minded protesters and me like mice swept down the storm drain in a fluoridated flash flood...

And I can't really blame them. Because if more people knew how dangerous the fluoride our government pumps into our water supply really is, there'd be open revolt in the streets.

Really, it's THAT BAD.

For instance, did you know that fluoride was for years classified as a toxic waste in this country? Yep. Did you know that at one time not too long ago, it's only approved uses were as an insecticide and a RAT POISON? True. Oh, and here's another interesting bit of trivia: One of the first major studies "proving" a correlation between fluoridated water and fewer cavities was actually funded by the aluminum industry! So much for completely objective research...

Here's the real irony, though: Fluoride may not even be good for your teeth!

In one of the biggest studies ever undertaken on the subject (using data from 39,000 school children in 84 metropolitan areas around the U.S.), there was no statistically significant difference in rates of tooth decay between fluoridated and non-fluoridated water supplies. That's right: fluoride doesn't prevent cavities. But it can prevent some other things - like a long, healthy life. I've seen evidence linking cancer, osteoporosis, and even Alzheimer's disease to fluoride ingestion...

Which is why it's so ironic that the most health-conscious state in the union (and the one most typically associated with stringent views on pollution and toxic waste), California, is about to release this deadly poison into 18 million homes in 26 cities via the kitchen and bathroom faucets...
 
Hi, never posted here but have a personal interest in all things chemical that we are exposed to on a daily basis.

ANWAY, fluoride molecules are smaller than water molecules. There are only two ways to remove fluoride from tape water, a reverse osmosis filter, or distillation.

I haven't touched fluoride in years, I don't even use fluoridated toothpaste, and I haven't had a cavity in years, either. Cavities are linked to bad dental hygeine. Every fluoride study they ever performed was stopped before it ran to fruition.

Anway, I learned way more than I ever wanted to when I was living in a fluoridated town and started having serious health issues, gastric problems and insomnia specifically. Lots of reading and education and a change in lifestyle and I got used to drinking good bottled water and never went back. At a gallon a day, I drink bottled because I prefer the taste. Anyway, I've since moved, but I still use a filter on my shower to take out the clorine, WORTH THE MONEY!!! What a DIFFERENCE!!!

America is just about the last industrialized nation that still fluoridates. China stopped when they realized children who drank fluoridated water didn't score as well on I.Q. tests as children who drank UNfluoridated water. Gee, and our country is lagging behind the rest of the world in academics, isn't it???
 
And yet another.....

this "research" gave the government free license to begin disposing of millions of tons of toxic waste by adding it to our drinking water, fluoride was a regulated substance that could only legally be sold as an insecticide and a RAT POISON!

Sounds healthy, huh? But enough background. Anyone who digs into the issue will discover that public water fluoridation stinks like last week's tuna. And apparently, a Harvard University doctoral student did just that several years ago - and found some of the most conclusive evidence yet that fluoride increases the risk of bone cancer, especially among kids.

According to a recent Associated Press expose, the student's findings, presented as her 2001 doctoral thesis, pointed to a strong correlation between high levels of fluoride in tap water and osteosarcoma (bone cancer) in boys aged 5-10. These are almost the exact same findings as a 1991 U.S. Public Health Service study which found that rates of bone cancer were significantly higher among young men in fluoridated-water communities as compared to areas where the water wasn't poisoned - er, fluoridated...
 
MuscleMom said:
Hi, never posted here but have a personal interest in all things chemical that we are exposed to on a daily basis.

ANWAY, fluoride molecules are smaller than water molecules. There are only two ways to remove fluoride from tape water, a reverse osmosis filter, or distillation.

I haven't touched fluoride in years, I don't even use fluoridated toothpaste, and I haven't had a cavity in years, either. Cavities are linked to bad dental hygeine. Every fluoride study they ever performed was stopped before it ran to fruition.

Anway, I learned way more than I ever wanted to when I was living in a fluoridated town and started having serious health issues, gastric problems and insomnia specifically. Lots of reading and education and a change in lifestyle and I got used to drinking good bottled water and never went back. At a gallon a day, I drink bottled because I prefer the taste. Anyway, I've since moved, but I still use a filter on my shower to take out the clorine, WORTH THE MONEY!!! What a DIFFERENCE!!!

America is just about the last industrialized nation that still fluoridates. China stopped when they realized children who drank fluoridated water didn't score as well on I.Q. tests as children who drank UNfluoridated water. Gee, and our country is lagging behind the rest of the world in academics, isn't it???

How much did you get your shower filter for? I was thinking of getting one cuz i read that basically your shower is a gas chamber for chemicals with the steam, and that your skin is the largest absorbing organ, so when you take a shower, you're absorbing all the chemicals that you don't drink, through your skin.
 
Agent Dana Scully said:
How much did you get your shower filter for? I was thinking of getting one cuz i read that basically your shower is a gas chamber for chemicals with the steam, and that your skin is the largest absorbing organ, so when you take a shower, you're absorbing all the chemicals that you don't drink, through your skin.


Amazon has it for about $36 before shipping:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006U10LW/103-4920889-2224649?v=glance&n=284507&v=glance

You can generally get it at most health food stores. The replacement cartriges are about $18.

There are other varieties, various prices. This works well enough for us though and the price was right.
 
harbinator said:
Wow Ive dropped 70lb this year and I drink like 1-2 gallons a day of tap water. Should I worry about this? Will a filter help? I am not going to guy buy 1-2 gallons of water everyday.
My wife drinks more water than I do, I guess I store it better than she does; maybe not. Juice, water, all count as water. I buy bottled water, and it's not that expensive. Shop at WalMart.
 
Agent Dana Scully said:
The thing is, i've searched for regular filters, and they all mentions all these things they filter out, except for fluoride.

I guess the only real water filters that actually work are the ones you order online that are around 100 dollars and up.

I just by the reverse osmosis water that cost like 30 cents a gallon.

Also, avoid toothpaste that contains fluoride.

Whats fucked up, is that when you go to supermarkets, you see the baby gallon water, and it advertises "WITH ADDED FLUORIDE!" LOL
You dont have to avoid toothpaste that contains fluoride, unless you're planning on swallowing it; that's where the harm is.
 
doyouyahoo said:
You dont have to avoid toothpaste that contains fluoride, unless you're planning on swallowing it; that's where the harm is.

Your tongue is an organ that can absorb the flouride, and your skin, hence the need for shower filters and such.
 
This explains it better. The FDA put a warning label that pretty much says that fluoride is toxic.







The general population is exposed to fluorides in the air and in food, but the main source is found in drinking water. Fluorine, as sodium fluoride, is contained in most municipal drinking water supplies in the United States and has been credited by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC, U.S.A.) as “one of the 10 greatest achievements in public health during the 20th century.” Community water fluoridation was first implemented in the United States in 1945, after recognizing that fluoride hardens tooth enamel.



However, an excess accumulation of fluoride in the body can lead to demineralization of bone and tooth enamel, to a toxic condition called fluorosis. Bony changes, characterized by osteosclerosis, exostoses of the spine, and genu valgum, usually are seen only after prolonged high intake of fluoride in adults. These changes occur due to the fact that fluoride is not biodegradable and it accumulates in the body and bones resulting in a toxic or poisoning effect.



Fluoride and Toxicity


The Merck Manual also discusses issues of the toxicity of fluoride. Excess accumulation of fluoride, fluorosis, occurs in teeth and bones in proportion to the level and duration of fluoride intake. Dental fluorosis is most evident in permanent teeth that develop during high fluoride intake. The earliest changes are chalky-white, irregularly distributed patches on the surface of the enamel. Over time, these patches become stained yellow or brown, producing a mottled appearance. Severe fluorosis weakens the enamel, pitting its surface.



The accumulation of fluoride in bones causes a condition known as skeletal fluorosis. In rare cases, consuming too much fluoride over a long period of time can result in dense but weak bones, bone spurs on the spine, and crippling due to calcification of ligaments.



The ongoing debate about the benefits of water fluoridation has been vigorous regarding the risk versus the benefit. Recent studies seem to suggest that the beneficial effects of fluoride are achieved through topical use and not through ingestion. Many Western European countries have rejected water fluoridation. In Belgium (a country which does not fluoridate its drinking water), a study commissioned by the health ministry found that excessive use of fluoride products increased the risk of osteoporosis and could damage the nervous system. As a result, in August 2002, Belgium became the first country in the world to prohibit fluoride supplements (fluoride chewing gum, tablets and drops). They did not, however, ban fluoride-containing toothpastes at that time because of the topical benefits in the prevention of tooth decay.



The potential danger regarding fluoride-containing toothpastes appears to be the accidental ingestion of fluoride due to inadvertently swallowing the paste and the absorption of fluoride via the mucous membrane (lining of the mouth) and tongue. A milligram can be absorbed in as little as two brushings. That equates to one plus milligrams of absorbed fluoride per day (Keeping in mind that the fastest method of administering stimulant drugs during a cardiac attack is sub-lingually -- under the tongue.). Swallowed or not, anyone using a fluoridated toothpaste will absorb at least this much, and some of us more. Young children are at the higher risk because they are more likely to swallow fluoride-containing toothpastes and rinses -- if not properly supervised by a parent or guardian.



Due to this concern, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA, U.S.A.) requires the following warning statement on the packaging of all fluoride-containing toothpastes:



“Warning: Keep out of the reach of children under 6 years of age. If more than used for brushing is accidentally swallowed, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away.”



Our extensive exposure to fluoride, in our water and food chain, has lead some medical professionals, scientists, and dentists to recommend the elimination of fluoride from the public water supply, and to avoid using fluoridated toothpastes.






Cuprident


When biochemist Gerry Maurer developed Cuprident Toothpaste and Foam Rinse, he decided not to add fluoride to his formulations. Dr. Maurer wanted his products to be all natural and safe to use. Cuprident’s patented MCC™ Formulation contains an ionic copper complex that coats the teeth, inhibiting the colonization by bacteria, but it does not penetrate the tooth enamel. Cuprident contains no fluoride, but its active ingredient (MCC™) is compatible with the use of fluoride.



There are “caries-prone” individuals who may benefit from added topical fluoride applications. In proper, controlled amounts, fluoride can make teeth more resistant to caries (cavity) formation. Dentists can apply a treatment or prescribe, on a case-by-case basis, fluoride preparations (gels and rinses) that can be very beneficial to certain individuals. The choice of using a fluoride-containing product in addition to Cuprident is, therefore, up to you and your dental professional.






References


There are many articles and websites on the internet devoted to the fluoride debate. The articles referenced below are provided as references to this page and for consumer convenience in order to provide a more comprehensive overview and variety of informational sources, both pro and con, which may help in drawing your own conclusions about the use of fluoride.



Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (U.S.A.)
http://www.cdc.gov



Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (U.S.A.)
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts11.html



U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
http://www.epa.gov



U.S. Food and Drug Administration
http://www.fda.gov/



Report of the Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Fluoride of the Committee to Coordinate Environmental Health and Related Programs
http://www.cda.org/public/pubhsrvc.html



Merck Manual of Medical Information – Second Home Edition
http://www.merck.com



The International Academy of Oral Medicine & Toxicology
http://www.iaomt.org



Chemical and Engineering News
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/books/8233/8233books.html



Holistic Healing Web Page
http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride



American Dental Association
http://www.ada.org



News Release: Exposure to Several Fluoride Sources May Explain Increase in Enamel Fluorosis.
http://www.ada.org/public/media/releases/0202_release05.asp



Fluoride Action Network
http://www.fluoridealert.org



The Fluoride Debate
http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question02.html



Why We Should Not Fluoridate The Water?
http://www.stopfluoridation.homestead.com/VoteNo.html



Holistic dentists say fluoride risks outweigh benefit.
http://observer.thecentre.centennialcollege.ca/life/fluoride031902.htm



THE ECOLOGISTS: Rethinking Basic Assumptions
http://www.theecologist.org/archive_article.html?article=170&category=92



Anti-fluoridation forces are gaining ground, organizing, finding public and political support.
http://proliberty.com/observer/20020521.htm
 
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