first tren cycle

[jvilma51]

hey wats up guys heard from a friend this was a great site for info...i am 23 years old height about 5'10 weight around 190 maybe a little lower i dont kno my body fat but i have been an athlete all my life baseball and football and have a good build...my first cycle i ran was with sust 250 and winnie worked out great and ran it with nolva for pct no sides and got good results and then the same with my second cycle...

next week i am starting a cycle of Tren E and winnie and for pct i am going to have clomid and hcg

its gonna be 200 mg a week for 10 weeks of Tren E and then 50 mg a day of winstrol for the last 4 weeks....wanna get your guys opinion on this i am a little nervous about the tren sides so i wanted some advice....

wen should i start running the clomid and hcg? for how long? and what dosages i should take?

thanks so much i am a newb to this board but not roids and would appreciate all the help....thanks

 

[rakasha681]

Quality first post.

For your first time using tren, i'd recomend using acetate, if the sides get too bad, you can just quit and they go away much quicker. Also, your REALLY want to throw some test in on that cycle, tren shuts you down hard. Proviron is also a nice addition.

 

[jvilma51]

Quality first post.

For your first time using tren, i'd recomend using acetate, if the sides get too bad, you can just quit and they go away much quicker. Also, your REALLY want to throw some test in on that cycle, tren shuts you down hard. Proviron is also a nice addition.

i was going to but to be honest i am not up for sticking myself ed or eod its not that i am a baby lol just not very appealing to me so i figured i would go with the tren E

i did some research about running test while running tren and i read a few times that if running it with some hcg and clomid would be sufficient enough for such a low dosage to take care of shutting me down....idk if this is tru please tell me if i am wrong....

also any answers about my pct ?

 

[ALIN]

hey wats up guys heard from a friend this was a great site for info...i am 23 years old height about 5'10 weight around 190 maybe a little lower i dont kno my body fat but i have been an athlete all my life baseball and football and have a good build...my first cycle i ran was with sust 250 and winnie worked out great and ran it with nolva for pct no sides and got good results and then the same with my second cycle...

next week i am starting a cycle of Tren E and winnie and for pct i am going to have clomid and hcg

its gonna be 200 mg a week for 10 weeks of Tren E and then 50 mg a day of winstrol for the last 4 weeks....wanna get your guys opinion on this i am a little nervous about the tren sides so i wanted some advice....

wen should i start running the clomid and hcg? for how long? and what dosages i should take?

thanks so much i am a newb to this board but not roids and would appreciate all the help....thanks

first time tren user,,,,75-100mg EOD.

 

[rakasha681]

i was going to but to be honest i am not up for sticking myself ed or eod its not that i am a baby lol just not very appealing to me so i figured i would go with the tren E

i did some research about running test while running tren and i read a few times that if running it with some hcg and clomid would be sufficient enough for such a low dosage to take care of shutting me down....idk if this is tru please tell me if i am wrong....

also any answers about my pct ?

The HCG wont stop the tren from shutting you down, it will just keep your nuts from shrinking. I was the same way with my first tren cycle... the ED pokes didnt seem very appealing, but you get used to it. I started out at 100mg EOD, and the sides were pretty bad... i mean they didnt kill me or anything, but insomnia and horid night sweats kinda suck, about 3 weeks in i switched to 75mg ED, and all the sides went away except for some mild sweating. How bad ED pokes are kinda depends on your tren too, some brews you have to use a 25g, others are done good enough to use a slin pin, if it can go through a 29 or 30guage, it makes the pokes much easier. After a week or 2, you'll get into a rythm, left delt, right delt, left quad, right quad, left glute, right glute, repeat. You will start looking forward to the next day

I would definitely go with some test in there, if your using the tren.e, go with some test E, and use AIFM throught the cycle to keep bloat down. If you go with tren.a, use test prop, and same with the AIFM. Also keep another Anti Estrogen onhand like aromasin or something in case you have problems with AIFM.

For PCT, the clomid should be used at 50mg a day, for 21-28 days, no need to frontload it like some ppl say, just increases sides. When you start depends on the esters your using, from the enthenates, start about a week or 2 after your last injection, for the shorter esters start it after about a week. Starting too soon can hamper your gains a little, but starting too late can really screw up your recovery.
For the HCG, opinions vary, 1000iu ED for 10 days, starting the week before your last shot, followed by another 10 days of 500iu ED does the trick for me.

 

[jvilma51]

The HCG wont stop the tren from shutting you down, it will just keep your nuts from shrinking. I was the same way with my first tren cycle... the ED pokes didnt seem very appealing, but you get used to it. I started out at 100mg EOD, and the sides were pretty bad... i mean they didnt kill me or anything, but insomnia and horid night sweats kinda suck, about 3 weeks in i switched to 75mg ED, and all the sides went away except for some mild sweating. How bad ED pokes are kinda depends on your tren too, some brews you have to use a 25g, others are done good enough to use a slin pin, if it can go through a 29 or 30guage, it makes the pokes much easier. After a week or 2, you'll get into a rythm, left delt, right delt, left quad, right quad, left glute, right glute, repeat. You will start looking forward to the next day

I would definitely go with some test in there, if your using the tren.e, go with some test E, and use AIFM throught the cycle to keep bloat down. If you go with tren.a, use test prop, and same with the AIFM. Also keep another Anti Estrogen onhand like aromasin or something in case you have problems with AIFM.

For PCT, the clomid should be used at 50mg a day, for 21-28 days, no need to frontload it like some ppl say, just increases sides. When you start depends on the esters your using, from the enthenates, start about a week or 2 after your last injection, for the shorter esters start it after about a week. Starting too soon can hamper your gains a little, but starting too late can really screw up your recovery.
For the HCG, opinions vary, 1000iu ED for 10 days, starting the week before your last shot, followed by another 10 days of 500iu ED does the trick for me.

Thanks for taking the time to write that all up for me i really appreciate it....great advice i will definately add some test E to my cycle then really didnt want to but i really dont wanna lose my dick

should i run the test all 10 weeks that i run the tren? and will i be shut down after the cycle or will the clomid and the hcg prevent that?

 

[letsrun4it]

best first tren cycle would be:
Test (500-700mg/week)
Tren Ace (75mg/day)
Masteron (600mg/week)

 

[solidspine]

Tren and winny for a first cycle, kind of weird to me,

I would add test, and replace the winny with deca,

Tren is fine anytime with anything, except miller lite.

 

[rakasha681]

Tren and winny for a first cycle, kind of weird to me,

I would add test, and replace the winny with deca,

Tren is fine anytime with anything, except miller lite.

Deca and Tren is one of those things like Deca and Nolva, some people dont have any problems, but some do. You might not want to put deca in there on your first tren cycle untill you know how bad you will react to the progestin sides. Would suck to have a really bad reaction with 2 long esters.

Definitely run the test the entire 10 weeks. Nothing is a sure fire cure that will stop you from being shut down, when you stop injecting the aas, your body is going to be a little shocked when it has to start producing its own test again. You might still crash a little, but with propert PCT, your recovery will be much better

 

[AhMadKooL]

I think he meant first tren cycle not first cycle ever.... Tren Ace ED is good and definately add some test in there too