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First time injecting, 2nd cycle. Worried about pains!

tamper11

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First off, don't flame me or call me an idiot for what youre about to read. Whats done is done. I've made alot of mistakes along the way and all I'm looking for is some kind advice.

I'm 20 years old, 150 lbs, 6'0 been skinny my whole life but I have definition. Ive been working out 2 years now but in 2 years I've only put on 10 pounds or so. I'm proud of what I can lift for my size.. I can lift more weight or keep up to most of my friends who are at 170-180 lbs but putting on the size is what I want to see. Most all my muscles are in a plateau now and so I looked into steroids. I have a buddy who body builds so he helped me into it.

He suggested against doing just an oral but because I was new and scared I didn't want to stack it with an injectable. I did my 5 weeks of 40 mg of dbol a day and loved it at first, but like everyone knows, I lost all of it a few weeks later.

2 months later I'm starting another cycle. My friend said if I really wanted to put on size to try TREN + dbol. 2 injects of tren per week with 40 mg of dbol. So thats what I went with.

The tren has hit me pretty hard. I got the cough just a few hours later and had trouble sleeping at night. But the worst part is the severe pain I feel in my left cheek. My buddy injected me high and left, at first it wasnt bad but by the end of the day I was extremely sore. 3 days later I was in severe pain. The pain spread from my left cheek to my lower spine. Which makes moving VERY DIFFICULT. I have to be very careful when i sit/lay down. Work is almost embareable. Even just the cough I get shoots pain into my lower back. Everyday it just gets worse. For the last 2 days I havent even worked out because of the pain I get from just sitting down. I'm now scared to take my next shot. I may just turn the tren over and go with something like test 500 cc per week. But I'm still scared the pain will stick around..What is your advice? Anything will help.

If you've read all this you can obviously see ive made a lot of mistakes along the way, probably should have waited to do steroids to begin with. But I have my roids now so I'd like to at least finish this cycle.
Help help help.
 
people dont flame here like the old days, thanks to the mods shutting those people down.Most everyone on this board is helpful. It does seem that you have made some mistakes like most on this board have at one time or another.

I think what most will want to know about you is your diet and what body type you have. What is your diet like and how many calories are you or WERE you taking in prior to starting gear ? I hear a lot of young bucks talk about plateauing and usually it is due to lack of good diet and or bad form and inconsistancy in the gym. You have a lot of natty test in your body right now, you should be able to get some great gains naturally but if you are convinced you have plateaued, noone will probably be able to convince you otherwise.

I think tren is a terrible drug to start with for 1st cycle.Too many sides and unpredictable. Tren can transform your body and get you very vascular but you sound pretty small right now. I am sure you are very defined at that weight. I would have recommended test 250 or 500 weekly with dbol to get you started. I would have done a 12 or 14 week cycle of that with a good solid diet. I would recommend against mixing too many compounds at first because if you have a reaction or start to develop gyno, you wont know for sure which compound caused it and at what dose.

My suggestion would be to go with a light pct and sit tight for a bit. Keep your receptors fresh for a real entire cycle, it will be your best (usually is for most) I would continue to hit the gym and do a lot of reading on here. Insane amount of great info and there are some beasts on here that are chock full of great solid advice. Next cycle test 250mg or 500mg wkly with a dbol starter. For the record, test cycles usually arent painful, I do delts and glutes. Test may give you a little soreness, but nothing too bad. Dbol can give you back pumps that hurt pretty bad and may keep you from doing cardio but I doubt you need to be doing any cardio at this point lol..

I would run the 30mg dbol daily for 4 weeks and eat everything in your sight. At your age, height,weight, you dont even need to eat that cleanly. I am sure you will see major gains by doing that.

Do a proper pct after that and make sure you have EVERYTHING prior to starting and you should be good to go.

I am sure others that are more experienced than myself will chime in but that is what I would recommend to a friend.

Good luck with your adventure young bro.:)
 
1. Don't do Tren so early. Get some cycles and PCT's under your belt before tackling something that can shut you down so hard and give you nasty side effects. Learn all there is to know about Tren or even all AAS for that matter, the PCT for it, what you'll need to combat the side effects and how to keep yourself from shutting down. Only after you have done this should you do Tren.

2. Gotta get your diet straight. I've got friends who cycle and eat like shit and get results but when you're putting something in your body that is potentially harmful wouldn't you want to get the most out of it so you don't have to risk it again? I would. Plus your gains will be much better and you'll be healthier for the longterm.

3. I've never injected anything that hurt worse than a charlie horse so whatever your boy did to you must have been close to a nerve and the juice put pressure against it. If he recommended Tren and dbol for your first cycle he doesn't need to be doing your injects. Don't be a pussy and do it yourself. Quads are easy, glutes are a lil awkward and delts if under 3cc are easy.

4. There will always be pain with injecting. Pain is the name of this game. We inject pain to inflict more pain when we hit the gym. If you're losing sleep over inject pain then you need to drop it all together and accept your body the way it is.

5. Stick to Test as your cycle or as a base for your cycle.
 
If the pain hasn't subsided after a few days, then you may be looking at a possible infection.

Is the area hot to the touch? Is it red? The fact that the pain has spread is a really bad sign.
 
well i was thinking more of eating right, lifting right, bulking up for 25 then start AAS. so many people think AAS is the answer to add muscle to a skinny frame or cut excess fat. It should be used to surpass your maximum natural potential, for breaking plateau's. When I was 20 I was stupid and drank all the time, ate like shit and got little to no sleep.
 
Get your ass to a doctor and see if you have an abscess. A lot, if not all, tren you find in gyms is made from cattle pellets. You have no idea how sterile it is unless you made it. Now you have pain at the injection site from a drug that doesn't cause pain. Go get a white blood count from a doctor asap. Or you could wait until you have a hundred an six fever and they have to cut your butt cheek off. I'm not kidding about that. That's what will happen if you have an abscess and it goes untreated.
 
Thanks for all the helpful replies guys.

1) I quit the tren, gonna stick to test and dbol.
2) After icing my sore areas the pain has subsided a little bit today, but there is still a light red mark on my back about 3 inches wide by 1 1/2 inches high. its very sore there and a little warm. Hoping its not an abscess as someone was saying earlier. Should I go get blood work done or actually visit a doctor or something? Or should I hold off for a few days see what happens..
 
Thanks for all the helpful replies guys.

1) I quit the tren, gonna stick to test and dbol.
2) After icing my sore areas the pain has subsided a little bit today, but there is still a light red mark on my back about 3 inches wide by 1 1/2 inches high. its very sore there and a little warm. Hoping its not an abscess as someone was saying earlier. Should I go get blood work done or actually visit a doctor or something? Or should I hold off for a few days see what happens..


If it's been a few days and the area is still red, sore and WARM then you need to see a doc.

The WARMTH is the biggest issue. It's usually a sign of an infection.

You should not be 'very sore' after a few days. Even it is bruising from a virgin muscle, this shouldn't be painful.
 
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