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Kuilontli

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Ok, so... I will be starting my first Test E cycle in one week but, before I do that I want to make sure I have the AAS list in check.

I've been told that you are supposed to follow a Test Only first cycle, and some people do say I should run an AI along with it.

I know I will be running Test E, 250mg on Monday and 250mg on Thursday (500mg total per week).

I currently have Aromasin and I will be ordering Nolva and think I will get some HGC as well.

Broken down, what's the best way to do this...? Could you help me figure this out?

I have read quite a bit about AAS use, but I am flying solo here, so I am just making sure the dosage, timing, wait periods and "just in case" supplements are set.

Since is my first cycle I will be writing everything down on a calendar to make sure I don't fuck things up.

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Stats first.

Age
Weight
Height
Bf %
Previous PH experience? (I know this is your first "AAS" cycle).

Also I'm assuming you mean HCG.
 
I always like to ask what one's "goal(s)" are. Expectations can be realistic or unrealistic depending. For example, my first cycle I was looking to gain ~20lbs lean body mass. I achieved precisely that and kept 15 coming off. I got leaner too. What do you have planned in way of your diet?
 
Sorry, I forgot the stats.

35yo
34w
5'10
180#
16% bf

By the time I start the cycle, I should be around 15% bf which I've been told is the ideal.

Goals:
To gain lean mass, I do not have a specific number of pounds in mind just because is my first cycle and not 100% sure as in what or how much to expect.

Diet:
Basically doing a 50/30/20 protein/carbs/good fats

Yes, I meant HCG. Spell-checker is not helping...

Clomid instead of Nolva?
That was my first choice, but I was told to run Nolva instead just because is my first cycle...

Thanks for your help..!

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You seem to have done your homework, try to eat at least 4 k every day, keep sugar consumption to a minimum, I also prefer clomid but have used nolva in the past and recovered just fine.( blood work) run the cycle as you have listed for 12 wks and start pct 2 wks after last pin , diet is the key here, good luck
 
Kuilontli said:
Sorry, I forgot the stats.

35yo
34w
5'10
180#
16% bf

By the time I start the cycle, I should be around 15% bf which I've been told is the ideal.

Goals:
To gain lean mass, I do not have a specific number of pounds in mind just because is my first cycle and not 100% sure as in what or how much to expect.

Diet:
Basically doing a 50/30/20 protein/carbs/good fats


Clomid instead of Nolva?
That was my first choice, but I was told to run Nolva instead just because is my first cycle...

Thanks for your help..!
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Who ever told you to run nolva, just disregard their advise on aas in the future. Nolva follows the old school train of thought regarding pct. It is outdated info and innefective. As for your cycle 500 mgs of test a week is more than enough to achieve great results. I would run it for 12 Weeks. As for an ai, arimadex at 0.5 Mg eod or every 3rd day is good. I would also get some hcg or hcgenerate to run from the last week of cycle through the first week of pct. Some people run it all the way through in an effort to make recovery easier, but I have not personally had any recovery issues by using it at the end. As for pct a low dose clomid with postcycle/ unleashed combo will make for a nice easy recovery. And if you wanna add a little test boost after pct then the supplement bridge is a nice addition. I would also consider a low dose dbol kick start to your cycle. The test e will begin working within a couple hours, but peak blood levels arent reached for 5-6 Weeks. So even though the test is working, you wont feel like a mad man for atleast a month or so. The dbol will be in full effect within a week. So here is the layout.


1-12 test e 500 mgs week
1-4 dbol 30 mgs day
1-18 adex 0.5 Mg eod or every 3rd
11-14 hcg at 250-500 ius week, or hcgenerate
14-18 clomid at 25Mg day
14-18 postcycle/unleashed combo
18-22 bridge
Throughout cycle multi vit, liver support, blood pressure support( it will go up), and any other supps you normally take. And lots of protein and water. And tell your wife, gf, or mistress to get some rest now, because when the test kicks in shes going to need it.

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Wow... Thanks, this is just the way I wanted the layout..

Now, I guess I dont know as much as I thought. What do you mean by "unleashed" and what is "bridge"?

I will have to order a couple more items based on your reply, I'm glad I asked so I have all I need.

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Kuilontli said:
Wow... Thanks, this is just the way I wanted the layout..

Now, I guess I dont know as much as I thought. What do you mean by "unleashed" and what is "bridge"?

I will have to order a couple more items based on your reply, I'm glad I asked so I have all I need.

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unleashed is a test booster that is going to help you recover during pct... bridge is going to help you to keep the gains made from your cycle when it is complete...
 
Use 250mg test a week to start with, test e can be shot every 7th day "hence the living time"

I have seen people grow alot more on 250 then 500, because they tested how it was to be using. Some of them kept their diet and went all in grew alot more then people on 500..

At 500mg aromatasion will be higher, SHBG will have a role, you might need an AI, ect.

Idd go with 250, thats what i did first time i ran an injectable. Get the most out of low doses and then go higher

your body produces 75mg a week, so if 250 cant do the trick man.. somethings wrong then? Diet?
 
Ya 250 would work but that's just barely about trt dose. Many on trt are prescribed 200mg a week which put them at the high end of.normal
I don't think its worth shutting your htpa down for 250mg a week

That's my 2cents
 
Adex... I will need to find a gear shop for that one, Pinnacle is out or does not carry it.

Wouldn't Aromasin be similar?

I'm still confused about bridge, I will guess that is another supplement?

Oh boy, I am glad I decided to ask these things... It seems like I will have to place another order just to start. I have a week, I should get everything by then.

Gear in hand:
+ Two 10ml Test E (250mg/ml)
+ Aromasin

Gear to order:
+ Dbol
+ Clomid
+ HCG
+ Adex ?

Shit I need to find:
+ Unleashed
+ Bridge

Once I learn this shit I will be interested on opening a Gear Depot, it seems like I need several shops to get everything I need! Haha..

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Kuilontli said:
Adex... I will need to find a gear shop for that one, Pinnacle is out or does not carry it.

Wouldn't Aromasin be similar?

I'm still confused about bridge, I will guess that is another supplement?

Oh boy, I am glad I decided to ask these things... It seems like I will have to place another order just to start. I have a week, I should get everything by then.

Gear in hand:
+ Two 10ml Test E (250mg/ml)
+ Aromasin

Gear to order:
+ Dbol
+ Clomid
+ HCG
+ Adex ?

Shit I need to find:
+ Unleashed
+ Bridge

Once I learn this shit I will be interested on opening a Gear Depot, it seems like I need several shops to get everything I need! Haha..

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you do not need to get dex if you have aromasin... aromasin is great bro, that will be just fine... dose it 12.5 mg eod...

unleashed and bridge are both at needtobuildmuscle.com... coupon code needto139 will save you 15% off and get you free shipping...

clomid can be bought at chemicalneed.com...

BRIDGE is taken in between cycles to help you keep your gains bro...
 
Thank you all for your replies..

Dylandemelli; thanks man, for the advice and sources.

I will create a log once I start my cycle, and I will sure ask if I have further questions.

Now, off to research how in the hell to do a safe IM shot. I saw some diagrams online but I dont have cartoon legs, haha



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dylangemelli said:
unleashed is a test booster that is going to help you recover during pct... bridge is going to help you to keep the gains made from your cycle when it is complete...
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Unleashed will lower SHBG. This will allow you to get the most bang for your buck on your natty test.
 
Based on the very detailed first cycle I got from joeblow12345, I worked out one that I believe should do me fine.

I did decide not to take Dbol, just because this is my firs cycle and sincere I have never used Test before I want to know how my body reacts to it.

The rest of the recommended cycle is pretty much the same, although I did swap Adex with Aromasin, since I already have that in hand.

1-12 test e 500 mgs week
1-18 Aromasin 12.5mg e3d
11-14 hcg at 250-500 ius week, or hcgenerate
14-18 clomid at 25Mg day
14-18 postcycle/unleashed combo
18-22 bridge

Based on the changes it seems like is still complete, what do you think?

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Kuilontli said:
Based on the very detailed first cycle I got from joeblow12345, I worked out one that I believe should do me fine.

I did decide not to take Dbol, just because this is my firs cycle and sincere I have never used Test before I want to know how my body reacts to it.

The rest of the recommended cycle is pretty much the same, although I did swap Adex with Aromasin, since I already have that in hand.

1-12 test e 500 mgs week
1-18 Aromasin 12.5mg e3d
11-14 hcg at 250-500 ius week, or hcgenerate
14-18 clomid at 25Mg day
14-18 postcycle/unleashed combo
18-22 bridge

Based on the changes it seems like is still complete, what do you think?

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Looks good just dont forget to take your multi vits, and something to help regulate blood pressure. I take coq 10, Hawthorn berry, fish oil, a potassium supplement, and have 2 bananas a day, and as much water as I can drink. I check my blood pressure daily. Even on tren,test, and anadrol my blood pressure stays within normal ranges. Without the blood pressure supps, it will elevate to prehyper tension levels. So I make it a point to follow this regimen daily on cycle. And one last thing only use the aromasin as needed. Too little estrogen causes as many problems as too much.

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Kuilontli said:
Ok, so... I will be starting my first Test E cycle in one week but, before I do that I want to make sure I have the AAS list in check.

I've been told that you are supposed to follow a Test Only first cycle, and some people do say I should run an AI along with it.

I know I will be running Test E, 250mg on Monday and 250mg on Thursday (500mg total per week).

I currently have Aromasin and I will be ordering Nolva and think I will get some HGC as well.

Broken down, what's the best way to do this...? Could you help me figure this out?

I have read quite a bit about AAS use, but I am flying solo here, so I am just making sure the dosage, timing, wait periods and "just in case" supplements are set.

Since is my first cycle I will be writing everything down on a calendar to make sure I don't fuck things up.

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My advice is to always run an AI or other anti E just to prevent problems from ever occurring.
You dont need much.
 
Thanks!

I don't like cq 10, but I am fond of Fish Oil, Niacin and a huge fan of Cayenne Pepper, all those help with blood pressure.

I always take multi-vitamins and I recently ordered a liver detox-regenerator.

I do plan on keeping an eye on BP regardless, just to measure how things go. I'm creating a database in which I will enter a detailed log of all I do/eat while on cycle. Oh yeah, and the labs...
Thanks

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Run Aromasin only when needed?

So, should I not start taking it from week 1-18 e3d?

Beside sensitivity on nipples (gyno), how do I know when I should take it and when should I stop?

This might seem like a dumb question to you guys, but I am new at this and, although I have read quite a bit I do not know any other signs to indicate too low estrogen...

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Kuilontli said:
Run Aromasin only when needed?

So, should I not start taking it from week 1-18 e3d?

Beside sensitivity on nipples (gyno), how do I know when I should take it and when should I stop?

This might seem like a dumb question to you guys, but I am new at this and, although I have read quite a bit I do not know any other signs to indicate too low estrogen...

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just take aromasin up until pct... 12.5 mg is fine...
 
What do you guys think about frontloading Test E?

Some of the articles I found say its good, some say the opposite. And then, those that say 'yes' have a different dosage for frontloading...

IF I decide to frontload on my cycle, would I have to increase the Aromasin?



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