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First Motorcycle reccomendations....

Becoming

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So I still can't convince my wife that me getting one is a good idea, but I have since decided it woudl be fat as hell to have one... any reccomendations? Pros/Cons of specific bikes?

First a couple thoughts
1-I kind of prefer more cruiser style than street bikes... but the right street bike would be a possibility, also interested in customizing possiblities if available, I think I like the low, drag bar look more...
2-I would want something that will give me more bang for my buck, nothing too crazy pricey (a good first bike)
3-I am kind of a bigger dude, so a 450 would look like Brock Lesnar on a schwinn (okay exaggerating a little, but you get my drift)... but at the same time I know it would be dumb to get something too big, so I need reccomendations in this department as well, maybe around 750-800ccs?
4-new vs used? thoughts
5-hook up a pic so I can see what you are talking about...

(PS yeah I would take classes and helmet and all that stuff, please keep it to bike rec's only please)
 
Go with a Ducati Monster600.

It's considered a gentleman's street bike.
 
Becoming, what is your height and weight? Have you already taken a motorcycle safety course?

800ccs is pretty damn small of a bike unless you're hella skinny. If you're in the 200lb range, I'd not get anything less than 1100ccs and you're likely going to want more.

The next thing you'll have to figure out is your budget. There are a lot of great cruisers on the market and everyone has different tastes and budgets. The best thing you can do is visit different dealerships and look at and sit on the bikes. Try that at most Harley shops and you're likely to be tossed out though. I think they figure that since they can charge you 5 - 8K more for the bike you shouldn't be able to sit on it.

The other thing you can do it attend local motorcycle meets. The larger ones offer a free ride on the bikes.
 
Have you ever ridden before? If not, don't buy an expensive Harley for your first bike, buy something cheap to learn on that you don't want to keep. Once you have some experience riding (in traffic) then look for the bike of your dreams.

I've seen too many people start on brand new Harleys only to dump them twice a week for the first month. That's not a small bill...
 
SSS, just under 6'2, just over 260 these days... I thought getting something bigger like 1100cc would be asking for trouble.. I would take all the classes and stuff first, haven't taken any to date yet..

Yeah I didn't think a Harley first off, they are way too pricey... I was thinking of some kind of jap cruiser? any reccomendations people like? also what about used (just as a first bike)?

I knew a guy that had a ducati, they look cool enough but he was a real douchebag, and cruisers look tougher too...
 
The Monster has a great look. But if you're eyeing a Harley, then Ducati isn't for you.

Becoming said:
SSS, just under 6'2, just over 260 these days... I thought getting something bigger like 1100cc would be asking for trouble.. I would take all the classes and stuff first, haven't taken any to date yet..

Yeah I didn't think a Harley first off, they are way too pricey... I was thinking of some kind of jap cruiser? any reccomendations people like? also what about used (just as a first bike)?

I knew a guy that had a ducati, they look cool enough but he was a real douchebag, and cruisers look tougher too...
 
I think something like a Suzuki Bandit 1200 would make a decent first bike for a bigger rider. It's a street bike, but not a crotch rocket, fast, but docile enough to learn on.
 
Forge is right.

would think about a used suzuki intruder 1400. It is a good size bike for your size and it has good power. After you get proficient on it than buy the hawg or custom.
 
Code- they do look cool bro - just not my style I think...

Mr. DB - thanks for the reccomendation, so everyone is agreement to go over 1100CC even for a first bike?
 
curling said:
Forge is right.

would think about a used suzuki intruder 1400. It is a good size bike for your size and it has good power. After you get proficient on it than buy the hawg or custom.

What about a honda shadow- anyone like those- they look pretty sweet... I agree, hog or custom later... also, i would read your book, cause I am a dummy for sure...

Okay let me phrase this another way - why is it okay for a person my size to ride and 1100cc+ bike first and not say a guy that weights 175?
 
Becoming said:
What about a honda shadow- anyone like those- they look pretty sweet... I agree, hog or custom later... also, i would read your book, cause I am a dummy for sure...

Okay let me phrase this another way - why is it okay for a person my size to ride and 1100cc+ bike first and not say a guy that weights 175?

What is your size and weight?

The shadow is ok but I have always like the intruder better. It has alot of torgue.
 
Becoming said:
just under 6'2, just over 260 these days... I thought getting something bigger like 1100cc would be asking for trouble..
 
Becoming said:
SSS, just under 6'2, just over 260 these days... I.

Oh yea, you want something 1000cc or better. You are a big boy. Heck I am just 5'11 and 195 and I have 1840cc in my bike and I want more.
 
curling said:
Oh yea, you want something 1000cc or better. You are a big boy. Heck I am just 5'11 and 195 and I have 1840cc in my bike and I want more.

holy crap 1840? - yeah, I see there are quite a few in the 2000 range these days...

so you said the intruder has more torque, any other reasons you like it vs other bikes...?

I still don't get it, I thought peeps were supposed to start out small so as not to be too dangerous...?
 
Becoming said:
holy crap 1840? - yeah, I see there are quite a few in the 2000 range these days...

so you said the intruder has more torque, any other reasons you like it vs other bikes...?

I still don't get it, I thought peeps were supposed to start out small so as not to be too dangerous...?

The only reason to start out small if you are small and can't throw weight around or you arn't strong enough to pick it up if you drop it at low speeds. It sounds like you have the strength to throw around this bike like crazy.

I guess I like the intruder because you should be able to find it cheap under 4k possibly and it is a pretty good harley look alike.

Their are other good looking jap cruizers but man they get expensive.
 
As soon as you go out and buy a new Jap cruiser your losing 3 grand as you push it out the door.You might try and find a used Jap cruiser,they are inexpensive..
 
curling said:
The only reason to start out small if you are small and can't throw weight around or you arn't strong enough to pick it up if you drop it at low speeds. It sounds like you have the strength to throw around this bike like crazy.

Thanks bro for the clarificatiion- thought it was for safety/power reasons...

Thanks also for the rec on the intruder, it looks a little cheaper than the shadow...

And I would definitely go used I think... (thanks Detras, curling and forge)

Also thanks Mr Db for the bandit rec- I will look at that too...

Seems like a lot of suzuki recs...
 
For the price man, you just get alot bang for your buck with a suzuki. Plus like others said you aren't going to be able to get your $$$ back out of it. Because after you get your riding skills down you are going to want a hawg or a custom.
 
gotcha bro - thanks man... I am kind of psyched - I thought I was gonna have to ride around on a sissy looking 750... now to convince the wife...
 
Becoming said:
SSS, just under 6'2, just over 260 these days... I thought getting something bigger like 1100cc would be asking for trouble.. I would take all the classes and stuff first, haven't taken any to date yet..

Yeah I didn't think a Harley first off, they are way too pricey... I was thinking of some kind of jap cruiser? any reccomendations people like? also what about used (just as a first bike)?

I knew a guy that had a ducati, they look cool enough but he was a real douchebag, and cruisers look tougher too...

At 260lbs you'll not be very happy with the lower class of cruiser. Check into the Honda VTX or the Kawasaki Vulcan bikes. They'll fit your size and they're hella nice bikes.
 
Thx SSS - Those VTXs are sweet and price is about = to the intruder... I think those two will be hard to beat...

now to convice the wife... :(
 
Becoming said:
Thx SSS - Those VTXs are sweet and price is about = to the intruder... I think those two will be hard to beat...

now to convice the wife... :(

Go and look at them and sit on them. Don't dismiss the Kawasaki's either. They have a new VTwin coming out that is 2054ccs. Fuel injected kick butt bike!

After you've been through a saftey course it will give you a much better context for riding and handling a bike. Then you have to get one that fits your personal style, budget and size. Cruisers tend to be about attitude and personal style as much as anything. Just buy your wife some leathers and strap her on!
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Don't dismiss the Kawasaki's either....
I won't

After you've been through a saftey course it will give you a much better context for riding and handling a bike. Then you have to get one that fits your personal style, budget and size.
word, do they provide loaners?

Just buy your wife some leathers and strap her on!
i am thinking that is what it will take - getting her on the first time will be tough though!
 
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Normally they have bikes you train on at the Motorcycle Safety courses. You should check around and see, there are many places that rent bikes by the day.

Many shops have or know of motorcycle rallies that normally occur once a month. Ask about them. Then have her meet you there in her cage and you take your bike. It's something to help her slide into it.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Many shops have or know of motorcycle rallies that normally occur once a month. Ask about them. Then have her meet you there in her cage and you take your bike. It's something to help her slide into it.


What?
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Normally they have bikes you train on at the Motorcycle Safety courses. You should check around and see, there are many places that rent bikes by the day.
cool, I will call around

Many shops have or know of motorcycle rallies that normally occur once a month. Ask about them. Then have her meet you there in her cage and you take your bike. It's something to help her slide into it.
There are lots out here in AZ.... maybe if I take the class and buy curling's book, it will ease her up some too... this is a plan that will take 6 mos to a year to pull together (plus I need some more cash as the 1100s+ are more money...)


I like how you guys all use the biker lingo "cages" etc... you should teach me more of that....LOL hey when do I start scoring some crystal meth? I was at a concert once and a biker looking dude showed me his zippo (that has some kind of pic etched into it) and asked if I was "friends with alice" or something like that whatever the f that means....?
 
check out your local cycle trader magazine
maybe someone gets laid off, so they sale a real nice bike for less than they should because they need quick cash
If you want a cruiser then get the best cruiser: Harley - USA
 
Becoming said:
I like how you guys all use the biker lingo "cages" etc... you should teach me more of that....LOL hey when do I start scoring some crystal meth? I was at a concert once and a biker looking dude showed me his zippo (that has some kind of pic etched into it) and asked if I was "friends with alice" or something like that whatever the f that means....?

LOL, I don't touch the stuff myself. The most I score is a good cuban cigar occasionally.
 
Oh a cage is a car. I get it now. I thought you were talking literally. Like bitch you ain't getting out of there until you let me buy this bike. :D
 
curling said:
Oh a cage is a car. I get it now. I thought you were talking literally. Like bitch you ain't getting out of there until you let me buy this bike. :D

You've been riding for 27 years and have never heard a car referred to as a cage?
 
Becoming said:
So I still can't convince my wife that me getting one is a good idea, but I have since decided it woudl be fat as hell to have one... any reccomendations? Pros/Cons of specific bikes?

First a couple thoughts
1-I kind of prefer more cruiser style than street bikes... but the right street bike would be a possibility, also interested in customizing possiblities if available, I think I like the low, drag bar look more...
2-I would want something that will give me more bang for my buck, nothing too crazy pricey (a good first bike)
3-I am kind of a bigger dude, so a 450 would look like Brock Lesnar on a schwinn (okay exaggerating a little, but you get my drift)... but at the same time I know it would be dumb to get something too big, so I need reccomendations in this department as well, maybe around 750-800ccs?
4-new vs used? thoughts
5-hook up a pic so I can see what you are talking about...

(PS yeah I would take classes and helmet and all that stuff, please keep it to bike rec's only please)


Becoming-

I would suggest something like a Honda Shadow Aero 1100 (if they still make it) or something close to this. You can pick a new one up for around 9K and a used as cheap as 4K unless it is in bad shape. Good power, great reliability, layed back cruiser styling. Unless you are just dying to get one a Harley isn't my recommendation for a first time bike, simply because of the price.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
txstrongman said:
check out your local cycle trader magazine
maybe someone gets laid off, so they sale a real nice bike for less than they should because they need quick cash
If you want a cruiser then get the best cruiser: Harley - USA

thx bro- I will go used, but the harley will have to wait...
 
strongsmartsexy said:
You've been riding for 27 years and have never heard a car referred to as a cage?

Nope. What part of the country are you from? I have heard of them referred to as boxes but not ever cages.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
LOL, I don't touch the stuff myself. The most I score is a good cuban cigar occasionally.

it was a joke bro - how bout some more biker lingo?
 
I started riding on the East Coast, heard it there.

Spent lotta time in the Mid-West, heard it there.

Rode for 7 years on the West Coast, heard it there.

Question is, where are you from.

Shit, I heard at Sturgis. Heard it at Daytona too.


curling said:
Nope. What part of the country are you from? I have heard of them referred to as boxes but not ever cages.
 
Scotsman said:
Becoming-

I would suggest something like a Honda Shadow Aero 1100 (if they still make it) or something close to this. You can pick a new one up for around 9K and a used as cheap as 4K unless it is in bad shape. Good power, great reliability, layed back cruiser styling. Unless you are just dying to get one a Harley isn't my recommendation for a first time bike, simply because of the price.

Cheers,
Scotsman

He's 260lbs and 6'1", he'll outgrow the Aero in a month easily. It's very underpowered and if he does any freeway driving it will beat him harder than his wife when he forgets to put down the toilet seat cover.

At his size, he definately needs a more sizable bike. I rode an ACE and an Aero at 210lbs and they were both too damn small and under powered.
 
Scotts- Thx bro... :)
 
Code said:
I started riding on the East Coast, heard it there.

Spent lotta time in the Mid-West, heard it there.

Rode for 7 years on the West Coast, heard it there.

Question is, where are you from.

Shit, I heard at Sturgis. Heard it at Daytona too.

The south what else? Heading to phoenix next week so maybe I will hear it then. :D
 
strongsmartsexy said:
It's very underpowered and if he does any freeway driving it will beat him harder than his wife when he forgets to put down the toilet seat cover.

What does this mean? (cause I don't knwo jack)
 
curling said:
The south what else? Heading to phoenix next week so maybe I will hear it then. :D

It was hot as hell here this weekend bro, so be prepared... 97 yesterday... not so bad really- unless you are standing in one place under the sun...:D
 
strongsmartsexy said:
He's 260lbs and 6'1", he'll outgrow the Aero in a month easily. It's very underpowered and if he does any freeway driving it will beat him harder than his wife when he forgets to put down the toilet seat cover.

At his size, he definately needs a more sizable bike. I rode an ACE and an Aero at 210lbs and they were both too damn small and under powered.

That's why I said the aero 1100 it has 400 more cc's than the standard aero and gets around pretty nice without being a death rocket. My Harley is only a 1450 and it'll get up and GO.

Becoming- If you get a bike I will definetly head that way when I get the chance then there will be, In N Out, Big Rock, Big bikes.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Becoming said:
What does this mean? (cause I don't knwo jack)


Different bikes ride differently and have different seat to feet ratios. Then you have the issue of the power of the engine to propel they weight of the bike and you to a given point, let alone having a passenger.

The VTXs and Vulcan's tend to fit taller people better and also have more power.

The suspensions on the bikes also make a lot of difference as well. The Aero and ACE both have the same suspension and are adjustible from the rear shocks. On CA freeways, they road peaks are killer on you if your bike isn't dialed in or it too light.

Putting you on an Ace or Aero is almost as bad as suggesting that you should ride a Sportster.
 
Scotsman said:
That's why I said the aero 1100 it has 400 more cc's than the standard aero and gets around pretty nice without being a death rocket. My Harley is only a 1450 and it'll get up and GO.

Becoming- If you get a bike I will definetly head that way when I get the chance then there will be, In N Out, Big Rock, Big bikes.

Cheers,
Scotsman


Both the ACE and Aero have the same 1100cc engine. Still too small for someone his size. He'll outgrow it too quickly.

Not to mention the Harley is a much different more powerful engine than either the ACE or Aero. The VTX or the new Kawi is more equivalent to the Harleys'.
 
SSS/Scots- Thx for the info bros - when I get closer and find something in particular I like I will definitely run it by you bros before I put out any cash on it....

Scots- Sounds cool bro... I don't know that this will be done by then though.... I am thinking maybe this fall at earliest....
 
Becoming said:
It was hot as hell here this weekend bro, so be prepared... 97 yesterday... not so bad really- unless you are standing in one place under the sun...:D


I saw that. It was 20 degrees hotter than average temps for march. I sure hope that goes back down to normal before me and the ole lady get there.

Here is some more lingo for ya. Where does your wife ride. On the p-pad(pussy pad) a detachable suction cup back seat.
 
curling said:
I saw that. It was 20 degrees hotter than average temps for march. I sure hope that goes back down to normal before me and the ole lady get there.

Here is some more lingo for ya. Where does your wife ride. On the p-pad(pussy pad) a detachable suction cup back seat.

Those are commonly called the "Bitch pad"
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Those are commonly called the "Bitch pad"

Well that too. But the ppad is the current name of it. I have heard it called both. But back when bikers were bikers the bikers they made them ride on the fenders.
 
Forge said:
Have you ever ridden before? If not, don't buy an expensive Harley for your first bike, buy something cheap to learn on that you don't want to keep. Once you have some experience riding (in traffic) then look for the bike of your dreams.

I've seen too many people start on brand new Harleys only to dump them twice a week for the first month. That's not a small bill...

as forge said, cheap, inexpesive. something that you're going to be able to sell for as much as you bought it for (maybe a $2-3K used bike).

Becoming said:
Code- they do look cool bro - just not my style I think...

Mr. DB - thanks for the reccomendation, so everyone is agreement to go over 1100CC even for a first bike?

go small. go find a Nighthawk 650 or something. you don't need big power when you are learning to ride. you need to learn how to control the bike, how to ride a bike, you need to learn how a motorcycle reacts. you do not need something 1100+ ccs for a starter bike. too big, heavy, and more power than you need.

you're going to have enough thrill just riding to begin with. you won't need 1840ccs of fun for a first bike. 650ccs or around that size will be plenty to start with. you're not so big that you'll bog the bike down. it's going to move just fine. and you will be on something light and managable so you can learn how to ride, not on something that has more power than you need and is heavier than you need to be dealing with.

get used to riding, enjoy it, put that little starter bike through it's paces and hone your skills. do that for a season and rack up a few thousand miles under your ass. then start looking for something bigger.

you learn to crawl before you learn to run. that being the case, why should you start off on a 1200cc motorcycle when you don't even know how to ride?
 
curling said:
I saw that. It was 20 degrees hotter than average temps for march. I sure hope that goes back down to normal before me and the ole lady get there.

Here is some more lingo for ya. Where does your wife ride. On the p-pad(pussy pad) a detachable suction cup back seat.

It is supposed to go back to the 80s for a bit after tomorrow or the next... here is a link to the 10 day....

http://beta.weather.com/weather/local/USAZ0166?from=search_10day

My wife would really appreciate the pad lingo... I think maybe no one should mention that cause she hits pretty hard for a chick....
 
crak600 said:
you learn to crawl before you learn to run. that being the case, why should you start off on a 1200cc motorcycle when you don't even know how to ride?

I've seen people get bikes to small for many years for the reasons you are describing. It didn't take them longer than 2 - 3 months to jump up to a bigger bike. A 650 is hardly enough bike for someone of his size, especially for freeway driving. More power doesn't represent more difficulty in learning or riding. And most cruiser power is significantly less than the smaller crotch rockets in terms of gas to speed ratio.

Not to mention, getting into one bike after convincing the wife, only to attempt to convince her you need a bigger bike afterwards is tricky.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
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Not to mention, getting into one bike after convincing the wife, only to attempt to convince her you need a bigger bike afterwards is tricky.

Exactly. Couldn't have said better myself. The wife is a key element in becoming's equation(sp).
 
i'm not talking about getting a small ass bike and having it for the next 2-3 years, i'm talking for 4-5 months. and those first few months on a smaller bike are good for you. you learn how to ride and then are better prepared for something bigger.

more power can make a difference to a new rider. if they happen to rip on the gas a bit too hard...back tire spins...down they go. understandably that sport bikes are going to have more of a problem with this (i am a sportbike rider), but still, why start off on something bigger than you need for a beginner bike?

after posting, i went back and re-read some things and saw he's 260lbs (missed that the first time through). isn't there a Kawi Vulcan 750? something just a tad bit larger would probably be fine, but you still want lower power and a lighter bike for a beginner, no matter what their size.

and if you pick up the right bike, selling it again won't be a problem, esepcially if you only have it for a fwe months. should be able to sell it for what you bought it for. Wives can't complain about that!
 
curling said:
Exactly. Couldn't have said better myself. The wife is a key element in becoming's equation(sp).

Yeah, and like I said she hits hard:)

No really we were at the gym and a dude said "Damn you are strong as hell- I could barely handle those DB shoulder presses" (there were only like 25s or 30s and he is weak, but a nice dude)

I kid her about taking up women's boxing... she has some fast hands... I need to get some focus mitts cause it is starting to hurt a lot when she uses my hand for a target...
 
strongsmartsexy said:
I've seen people get bikes to small for many years for the reasons you are describing. It didn't take them longer than 2 - 3 months to jump up to a bigger bike. A 650 is hardly enough bike for someone of his size, especially for freeway driving. More power doesn't represent more difficulty in learning or riding. And most cruiser power is significantly less than the smaller crotch rockets in terms of gas to speed ratio.

Not to mention, getting into one bike after convincing the wife, only to attempt to convince her you need a bigger bike afterwards is tricky.

More power does make it more difficult to learn, especially during throttle control.
 
Becoming said:
Yeah, and like I said she hits hard:)

No really we were at the gym and a dude said "Damn you are strong as hell- I could barely handle those DB shoulder presses" (there were only like 25s or 30s and he is weak, but a nice dude)

I kid her about taking up women's boxing... she has some fast hands... I need to get some focus mitts cause it is starting to hurt a lot when she uses my hand for a target...

Dang, you are going to post a pic one day of your face all mangles and we are going to say, "dang, dude was that the bike?" and you are going to say, "naw, the wife"
 
HS Lifter said:
More power does make it more difficult to learn, especially during throttle control.

If he were on a sportbike I might agree with you. But the cruiser classes are much different in throttle response. Especially the big V-Twins.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
If he were on a sportbike I might agree with you. But the cruiser classes are much different in throttle response. Especially the big V-Twins.

Fair enough.

I forgot that cruisers are big,bulky, and slow.
 
crak & HS - thanks for the comments bros- I will be extremely careful - I am not an impatient type and I will make sure to have some knowledgable peeps around when I start...

LOL @ curlings comment
 
Becoming said:
crak & HS - thanks for the comments bros- I will be extremely careful - I am not an impatient type and I will make sure to have some knowledgable peeps around when I start...

LOL @ curlings comment

Good luck bro!
 
crak600 said:
i'm not talking about getting a small ass bike and having it for the next 2-3 years, i'm talking for 4-5 months. and those first few months on a smaller bike are good for you. you learn how to ride and then are better prepared for something bigger.


Hell, my first road bike was a Kawasaki 250 cruiser, damn thing couldn't get out of it's own way but man did I have fun on that bike just touring back roads and getting lost. Later I got a Kawa 440 LTD cruiser, then sold that for another newer 440 LTD. I had that bike all through college. Didn't get my first sporty until the week after I graduated Penn State (8 days after graduation to be exact).

I'm now on my 4th Harley and will never buy anything else. Low end torque is the shit. :D
 
Forge said:
Hell, my first road bike was a Kawasaki 250 cruiser, damn thing couldn't get out of it's own way but man did I have fun on that bike just touring back roads and getting lost. Later I got a Kawa 440 LTD cruiser, then sold that for another newer 440 LTD. I had that bike all through college. Didn't get my first sporty until the week after I graduated Penn State (8 days after graduation to be exact).

I'm now on my 4th Harley and will never buy anything else. Low end torque is the shit. :D

I'm likely to buy a VTX or the newest Kawi. Both of them take almost all of the Harley's to school on torque and power. Even after dumping a good 5K into upgrades to the Harley engine. :D And, I don't have to suffer the 5 - 8K dealer premium for the bike.
 
I am currently looking into my first bike as well...although I like street bikes more. Make sure you take a motorcycle saftey course, it helps so much and they provide the bikes. They teach you everything you need to know! I'd opt for a used bike so if you do drop it...hopefully that won't happen...you won't be as upset about your brand new baby getting all scuffed up! Go sit on all kinds of bikes, it'll help you decide what fits you best. Talk to the dealers, they'll give you good advice on what bikes are best for beginners and some one your size. Myself I am looking at the Kawasaki Ninja ex 500. I'm little and don't need too much power--YET! Good luck!
 
lil'tangerine said:
I am currently looking into my first bike as well...although I like street bikes more. Make sure you take a motorcycle saftey course, it helps so much and they provide the bikes. They teach you everything you need to know! I'd opt for a used bike so if you do drop it...hopefully that won't happen...you won't be as upset about your brand new baby getting all scuffed up! Go sit on all kinds of bikes, it'll help you decide what fits you best. Talk to the dealers, they'll give you good advice on what bikes are best for beginners and some one your size. Myself I am looking at the Kawasaki Ninja ex 500. I'm little and don't need too much power--YET! Good luck!

Solid advice.

Except for the dealer part. ;)
 
Becoming said:
SSS/Scots- Thx for the info bros - when I get closer and find something in particular I like I will definitely run it by you bros before I put out any cash on it....

Scots- Sounds cool bro... I don't know that this will be done by then though.... I am thinking maybe this fall at earliest....

Hey fall works it is too damn hot in the summer in AZ for my taste. Doesn't look like I can make it down for bike week but there is a HOG rally there in I think July that I may go down for if I can bear the heat :)

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
Hey fall works it is too damn hot in the summer in AZ for my taste. Doesn't look like I can make it down for bike week but there is a HOG rally there in I think July that I may go down for if I can bear the heat :)

It is better here when it is hot... kills off all the weak....

If you are down here you know we are going for a couple 4x4s for sure...
 
Becoming said:
It is better here when it is hot... kills off all the weak....

If you are down here you know we are going for a couple 4x4s for sure...

That's what I thought the cold was for :evil:

You bet your ass, the 4x4's are on.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
That's what I thought the cold was for :evil:

we use what we got plenty of...
 
strongsmartsexy said:
beachfront property with no water. :D
LOL they try to build lakes here but I still say it is more like big puddles
 
HS Lifter said:
Fair enough.

I forgot that cruisers are big,bulky, and slow.


...with agricultural engines that would be better suited for a small tractor or a portable pump, than for a sporting vehicle.
 
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