Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Whats up ppl im new here let me start by saying im a 27 year old marine vet im 6 ft and 238lbs now i would say my body fat is 19% i weight train 5 days a week training one body part a day doing abs every day and also doing 15 to 20 min of cardio after my workouts keeping my heart rate at 150+ now ive been working out since 2005 and want a little added help ive taken anavar only at 60mg a day for i would say 8 weeks i loved the result but want to try something different and cheaper so my boy can get me what ever i want he wants me to get on testp and masteron not sure how much he wants me to take but i want your guys opinion im a bigger frame guy i think thats why he wants me to stack the masteron in there i want a lean bulk being summers coming what do you guys recommend take the both of them for my first cycle? or just take the test if so which kind e,c,p? also what cycle assist and or pct should i take for my cycle i really just want to take the minimum amount nothing crazy for my first cycle thanks for all your help guys
first injection cycle Test p, MAsteron question
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Hi mate
It's a bank holiday weekend in the UK and not sure about the States. Hold out until Monday or Tuesday and I'm sure you'll get loads of solid advice from the guys.
If you haven't done an injectable cycle before, you might want to consider a longer acting testosterone like Cypionate or Enanthate for your first cycle. Plus, while I have no problems with Propionate, some guys suffer from a fair bit of pip (pain) from Propionate.
If you do go for the Propionate cycle you're going to have to inject every few days at the least to get and keep blood levels stable.
As for the Masteron...It comes in Propionate and Enanthate forms. You need to establish which one he's got for you. Masteron Propionate - like Testosterone Propionate - has to be injected more frequently than Masteron Enanthate. Basically, if you do run Testosterone Propionate, it might make sense to run Masteron Propionate along with it.
Doseage wise? I'll let the others advise on that issue.
On Cycle Therapy should include some form of anti-E. Okay, Masteron doesn't aromatise and it helps control E conversion to some extent too. However, I wouldn't advise running it without some other proper anti-aromatiser either on hand or actually from start to finish of the cycle (arimidex, Aromasin, or Forma Stanzol). Also, don't forget, that Masteron is very androgenic. So if you're susceptible to acne, hair loss, and greasy skin, aggressiveness etc., you might want to keep this in mind. I personally, love Masteron and have no such issues with it, but some do.
Finally. If your body fat is quite high and you're using it in the hope that it will burn the fat off, you will be disappointed. It does enhance vascularity well, if you're not fat but not ripped, and it will dry the water out from your tissues, but it will not bring about drastic results in fat burning. Just have realistic expectations from it and you will be pleased. I found it was great for increasing strength in workouts among other positive points of Masteron.
Enjoy the cycle if you go for it. Let the experts chime in first though, before you go head long into this one. Your first cycle should be a very positive experience, so listen to them who will know best.
Craig
It's a bank holiday weekend in the UK and not sure about the States. Hold out until Monday or Tuesday and I'm sure you'll get loads of solid advice from the guys.
If you haven't done an injectable cycle before, you might want to consider a longer acting testosterone like Cypionate or Enanthate for your first cycle. Plus, while I have no problems with Propionate, some guys suffer from a fair bit of pip (pain) from Propionate.
If you do go for the Propionate cycle you're going to have to inject every few days at the least to get and keep blood levels stable.
As for the Masteron...It comes in Propionate and Enanthate forms. You need to establish which one he's got for you. Masteron Propionate - like Testosterone Propionate - has to be injected more frequently than Masteron Enanthate. Basically, if you do run Testosterone Propionate, it might make sense to run Masteron Propionate along with it.
Doseage wise? I'll let the others advise on that issue.
On Cycle Therapy should include some form of anti-E. Okay, Masteron doesn't aromatise and it helps control E conversion to some extent too. However, I wouldn't advise running it without some other proper anti-aromatiser either on hand or actually from start to finish of the cycle (arimidex, Aromasin, or Forma Stanzol). Also, don't forget, that Masteron is very androgenic. So if you're susceptible to acne, hair loss, and greasy skin, aggressiveness etc., you might want to keep this in mind. I personally, love Masteron and have no such issues with it, but some do.
Finally. If your body fat is quite high and you're using it in the hope that it will burn the fat off, you will be disappointed. It does enhance vascularity well, if you're not fat but not ripped, and it will dry the water out from your tissues, but it will not bring about drastic results in fat burning. Just have realistic expectations from it and you will be pleased. I found it was great for increasing strength in workouts among other positive points of Masteron.
Enjoy the cycle if you go for it. Let the experts chime in first though, before you go head long into this one. Your first cycle should be a very positive experience, so listen to them who will know best.
Craig
You really shouldn't be taking any AAS until you get your bodyfat down to 15% as you won't get as much benefit at your current 19% and the extra bodyfat increases the chances of negative side effects. On top of that, most of Masteron's effects would be completely useless at that size - you wouldn't be able to see the difference.
ok well maybe i have less body fat i havent done the bodyfat test i figure im that high due to the fact i used to be overweight long ago and have excess skin on my stomach aand yes this would be my first injectable also i notice my hair had been thinning out since being in the marines not sure if its from that or maybe from using natural test boosters over time if masteron will increase baldness and acne might want to stay away from that i just want to do a lean cycle dont want to bulk too much just want some strength inscreases and to mainly lean out ive been reading to take n2guard or hcgenerate on cycle ? are they any good also unleashed for post cycle? is unleashed enough or do i need anything else? also havent heard anything yet about if i should just take test if so im guessing test e i should take ? plz help me out thanks
General rule of thumb for a first cycle is a test only run. If you want to keep it shorter it would be TestP for 8 weeks or TestE for 10-14 weeks if you wanted to run something longer with less frequent pinning.
Use that info to spend some time looking at suggested first cycles and learn a bit. Then post a proposed cycle and people will be happy to give more specific advice.
And read the steroid 101 thread. Learn about the things yoh are getting ready to put in your body so yoh are better prepared.
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Use that info to spend some time looking at suggested first cycles and learn a bit. Then post a proposed cycle and people will be happy to give more specific advice.
And read the steroid 101 thread. Learn about the things yoh are getting ready to put in your body so yoh are better prepared.
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ok so lets say i jump on the test p people are talking about injecting every other day is there something i can just inject twice a week or maybe once a week i just want a lil boost in the gym to shock my body and cause lean growth what do you guys recomend for my cycle assist and also for my pct lay it out for me so i can buy it and be good to go
rustilldown
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Do a little reading, there are different esters of testosterone, prop and enanthate and cyponiate being most common , a good first cycle is usually 10 weeks of test E or c injected twice a week. Now ill let you do a little research and see what you come up with
ok so test e is better since this is my first injectable im reading take 500 mg a week im guessing monday 250 and thurs 250 now ppl are saying run formastanzol the lotion during cycle? if i run that should i run hcgenerate or is there no point also ive read to take n2 guard which of these can i eliminate dont think i need all 3 on cycle and pct ive read to take unleashed im just not sure for how long can you recommend something
rustilldown
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Ok , you can eliminate need2guard since it's only test you are running. Need2guard really shines when using orals, or harsher compounds such as tren and such. Forma and hcgenerate I would use on cycle just follow the instructions on them. You can adjust the dosage as you go to evaluate your estrogen needs( too much formastanzol may crush it) I'd run the forma into your pct and hcgenerate well you can run as long as you want if you ask me but others may argue that. Pick up a low dose clomid and some daa powder or caps and your golden. A cheap and effective supp is d spark
ok another question for you is im 27 and i hear yall talking about 20 and 22 is too yound and will interfere with natural test do you think taking test e is a dumb idead for someone my age or should i be fine i live here in miami fl where everyone juices and lots of ppl dont even take as much cycle assist and pct that i read on here so d spark is a good pct to take is that all i need ? and where can i get clomid how much do i take
rustilldown
New member
It's so easy to find the information you are seeking. Nobody likes to spoon feed on here because all it
Shows is you lack the skills or common knowledge
To even bother researching what you are putting into your body,
Or things to look out for and potential side effects. Here's a tip. Google dspark ( read what it is) google clomid ( read what it is and how it works in helping jump start your natural production) google arimidex , google formastanzol, google anything you have a question about,
Or search in these forums here using the search button , and then come to us with a structures cycle like so
Weeks 1-10
Test e ( how many Mgs/ week.. What days you shoot how much on)
Weeks 1-10 ( cycle assist or??)
Weeks 12-16 ( post cycle but what... What are you gonna use and how much ? And why are we starting post cycle at week 12 not week 10)
If I sound like an aashole, so be it. It's for your own benefit
rustilldown
New member
Yes but you don't even know the difference in testosterone esters... You have alot of reading to do my friend I don't think you are ready yet
Jigga14
New member
If that's all you know then keep researching bud. Post a new thread with your cycle and post cycle layout
