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STUK

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Hi been reading the boards for a few weeks

I live in the UK and have been HIV+ for 13 years, I have been trianing with weights for 5 years, I am currently working as a fitness instructor, I also teach fitness classes. health wise I have been stable for a good 5 years, before that it was a different story, trying to live around Cryptococcus is not fun that slowed me down for 5 years, hence the change in lifestyle and training, eating healthy - Hey, I guessed a job as a fitness instructor would be what I needed...never looked backed, feel the best I have ever done in my life - not to mention working with people is very rewarding

I have wanted to do a cycle for a long time, but always found [or read[ something that put me off, after reading 'Built To Survive' and some of the posts on here I have decided to go for it..>

I have just ordered 100mg Test Cyp for 12 weeks
with 200mg Deca for 12 weeks....not started anything yet...

if any of you would like to contribute.... :) should I ramp it...? and what sort of PCT should I do...? I have heard that proviron is pretty good


look forward to hearing from you
 
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STUK said:
Hi been reading the boards for a few weeks

I live in the UK and have been HIV+ for 13 years, I have been trianing with weights for 5 years, I am currently working as a fitness instructor, I also teach fitness classes. health wise I have been stable for a good 5 years, before that it was a different story, trying to live around Cryptococcus is not fun that slowed me down for 5 years, hence the change in lifestyle and training, eating healthy - Hey, I guessed a job as a fitness instructor would be what I needed...never looked backed, feel the best I have ever done in my life - not to mention working with people is very rewarding

I have wanted to do a cycle for a long time, but always found [or read[ something that put me off, after reading 'Built To Survive' and some of the posts on here I have decided to go for it..>

I have just ordered 100mg Test Cyp for 12 weeks
with 200mg Deca for 12 weeks....not started anything yet...

if any of you would like to contribute.... :) should I ramp it...? and what sort of PCT should I do...? I have heard that proviron is pretty good


look forward to hearing from you
:rainbow: Hey ....I really dont have the advise you are seeking. I can however relate to the Crypto...I had it as well. Wasn't the spinal tap fun...lol....JK
I wish you luck with your cycle. ;)
 
babybodybuilder2.5 said:
:rainbow: Hey ....I really dont have the advise you are seeking. I can however relate to the Crypto...I had it as well. Wasn't the spinal tap fun...lol....JK
I wish you luck with your cycle. ;)

Hey babybodybuilder2.5, no it was not the most pleasureable of experiences at all....I have never spoken to anyone who has had Crypto before...how many relapses did you get? and are you on meds for it..? when I got it my T cell was around 30 :worried: and since then it has never gone above 300 that was 5 years ago, I have been taking terbinafine and itchraconazole every day to keep it at bay, though just dropped the itraconazole, my Doc is happy to drop the terbinafine too now, though I am a little bit scared of a relapse as I had 5 pre the terbinafine
 
As the mentor on this board, it seems to me that your steroids that you have picked for your first cycly are just fine. Don't forget to follow them up with proper blood tests from you doctor though. Thanks! Alan Chiras.
 
STUK said:
Hey babybodybuilder2.5, no it was not the most pleasureable of experiences at all....I have never spoken to anyone who has had Crypto before...how many relapses did you get? and are you on meds for it..? when I got it my T cell was around 30 :worried: and since then it has never gone above 300 that was 5 years ago, I have been taking terbinafine and itchraconazole every day to keep it at bay, though just dropped the itraconazole, my Doc is happy to drop the terbinafine too now, though I am a little bit scared of a relapse as I had 5 pre the terbinafine

:rainbow: I want to make sure we are talking about the same type of Crypto. I had "Cryptococcus Meningitus" (Not sure if that is spelled correctly). I am no longer on Medicine. We caught mine in the early stages. I was on "Dilfucian" 200mg a day every day for about 7 years. At that time my T-cell were low just as yours. It seem to keep it at a calm level. I never had any more episodes. Thanks Goodness. I don't think that I could have endured any more of those headaches, or the stiff neck. When it first began it's assult on me, I thought it was just a migrane...wrong, wrong ,wrong. Once they did the tap it was confirmed. I began a large dose of the difluican right away, and it stayed that way for about a year. Then I was dropped to the 200mg a day routine. Once my t-cell's got past 300, my now current Dr. has taken me off. I haven't had any problems since the very first episode. I hope you do well with your current treatment.
Well that about sums it up from my end.
Have a good one.
 
babybodybuilder2.5 said:
:rainbow: I want to make sure we are talking about the same type of Crypto. I had "Cryptococcus Meningitus" (Not sure if that is spelled correctly). I am no longer on Medicine. We caught mine in the early stages. I was on "Dilfucian" 200mg a day every day for about 7 years. At that time my T-cell were low just as yours. It seem to keep it at a calm level. I never had any more episodes. Thanks Goodness. I don't think that I could have endured any more of those headaches, or the stiff neck. When it first began it's assult on me, I thought it was just a migrane...wrong, wrong ,wrong. Once they did the tap it was confirmed. I began a large dose of the difluican right away, and it stayed that way for about a year. Then I was dropped to the 200mg a day routine. Once my t-cell's got past 300, my now current Dr. has taken me off. I haven't had any problems since the very first episode. I hope you do well with your current treatment.
Well that about sums it up from my end.
Have a good one.

Yes Cryptococcus menigitis is the one...... darkened rooms and those headaches, I was treated for sinus problems for a few months ??? then went on holiday to Thailand had to be flown back as there was obviosly something serioulsy wrong, luckey one of the docs suggested a tap, and there it was, I was put on Diflucan first but I kept getting relapses every 6 months, hence the change in drugs...so far so good
 
STUK said:
Yes Cryptococcus menigitis is the one...... darkened rooms and those headaches, I was treated for sinus problems for a few months ??? then went on holiday to Thailand had to be flown back as there was obviosly something serioulsy wrong, luckey one of the docs suggested a tap, and there it was, I was put on Diflucan first but I kept getting relapses every 6 months, hence the change in drugs...so far so good
:rainbow: I can only imagine what you went thru. Hell I only had to go thru it once, and that was enough for me....AHHHHHHH.
I have to ask..is that you in your avatar? If so ..nice!!!
 
babybodybuilder2.5 said:
:rainbow: I can only imagine what you went thru. Hell I only had to go thru it once, and that was enough for me....AHHHHHHH.
I have to ask..is that you in your avatar? If so ..nice!!!

yeah, It is me, Thanks, I was doing some photos for using in posters at work, [I work in a gym], we used that one for advertising a new abdominal class

Have now started on the said cycle, so far OK, only had the first weeks dose, dont feel much at all?, am I supposed to..?, though I have been really hungry all the time , - checked weight today..have gained a Kilo...!?!? which is really good, I'm pleased already, have not shifted from 83 Kgs for over a year
 
STUK said:
yeah, It is me, Thanks, I was doing some photos for using in posters at work, [I work in a gym], we used that one for advertising a new abdominal class

Have now started on the said cycle, so far OK, only had the first weeks dose, dont feel much at all?, am I supposed to..?, though I have been really hungry all the time , - checked weight today..have gained a Kilo...!?!? which is really good, I'm pleased already, have not shifted from 83 Kgs for over a year
:rainbow: Must be nice having your picture up in the gym, good for you!
I wish I had an answer for you about the cycle. Like I mentioned in my first thread, I have never done one. Doesn't it feel good gaining weight. I go back and forth between 145 to 153 pounds. Never have been a big guy. One day when I'm ready to start a cycle things will change for me.
So Good Luck,
Keep in touch, as to how you are doing..... ;)
 
babybodybuilder2.5 said:
:rainbow: Must be nice having your picture up in the gym, good for you!
I wish I had an answer for you about the cycle. Like I mentioned in my first thread, I have never done one. Doesn't it feel good gaining weight. I go back and forth between 145 to 153 pounds. Never have been a big guy. One day when I'm ready to start a cycle things will change for me.
So Good Luck,
Keep in touch, as to how you are doing..... ;)

half way through the the second week, to be honest I don't feel much at all..? dont know what you should be feeling anyway, I had thought I would have felt something at least - early days I guess, been reading alot about increased labido, appetite, feelings of wellbeing, not feeling any of these and also not getting any of the sides effects mentioned that can happen too, have toyed with idea that the gear is fake, but as I said its very early days yet....I guess I have high expectations - to be honest I think I would panic if the signs were really obvious being in the job I am in...always on show, people asking how to train etc...

Ciao for now
 
STUK said:
half way through the the second week, to be honest I don't feel much at all..? dont know what you should be feeling anyway, I had thought I would have felt something at least - early days I guess, been reading alot about increased labido, appetite, feelings of wellbeing, not feeling any of these and also not getting any of the sides effects mentioned that can happen too, have toyed with idea that the gear is fake, but as I said its very early days yet....I guess I have high expectations - to be honest I think I would panic if the signs were really obvious being in the job I am in...always on show, people asking how to train etc...

Ciao for now
:rainbow: Hang in there, after all " Rome wasn't built in a day". I guess I would be feeling the same way as you do. We all like that instant gratification. Makes us feel like it paid off. I do however agree with you about the all of sudden gains. What with the type of job you hold.
I do hope that you didn't get the fake stuff. That is one reason why I havne't gone there yet. What, or who is real, is hard to find out.
I wish you good results, maybe they will kick in real soon.
Happy Holidays
 
Update

Another Update: been reading a whole heap on this forum, [there really is practically everything you need to know on here, just finding it]

increasded the dose of test cyp to 200mg last week, though still feeling nothing...though feeling nothing is exactly what I mean - I have no energy, just want to sleep all the time, have no appetite, and sexual desire is out of the window, to be honest I just feel plain miserable :worried: :worried:

From reading around these are classic symptoms of Deca, seems as though the forum is split down the middle when discussing this drug, either people love it or would not go near it for money - so I have decided, from next Monday [the next due date] I will drop the Deca, as speaking someone in the know said that the longer you are on it will take longer to get over it.

One + side is a small amount of water retention I have noticed which has filled out my face a little masking the lipodistrophy caused by the meds - OK its not perminant but itsnice to look in the mirror and feel whole again...but that positve feeling stops from the neck down.

Well its been an experience, I had high hopes, maybe too high, but then it looks like it was the wrong drug for me.

"we grow stronger from the mistakes we make"

see you around
 
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