First cycle scrapped, how about a new one?

[Workout King]

Ok, so just as I was about to complete my order, my ass decided it didn't want long hard pointy things in it more than need be, so I think I'm gonna switch back to deca instead of using npp...

Anyway, this is gonna be my first real cycle, so I want to try and keep the doses, lowish. thinking of test/deca/dbol. For test i was looking at andropen 275mg or test e iranian at 300+mg a week and 250mg deca. and the first 3-5 weeks at a moderate dose of dbol, 20-30ish. I want the cycle to be base off of the deca, but am afraid of the sides, and I'm not to sure if 275-300mg of test would be enough to combat the sides throughout a cycle.

So anyway here is what I was thinking:

weeks 1-10 275-300mg Test
1-8 250mg Deca
1-5ish 20-30mg Dbol

Think it might be a good idea to through some winny in there every few days? if so how much? I know the deca won't kick in till a good few weeks in, but it will stay kicked in for a while, which is why i was thinking about stopping it in week 8 so I will already be working it outa my system for pct.
Also think front loading might help also?

Anyway, I'm just bouncing this all off the wall for now, not planning on starting it for a few more months, need to finish up and recover from my current and last PH cycle. I've already got buttloads of all the ancillaries I'll need, except for the dostinex/cabaser which I plan to get to be on the safe side.

Stats: (current) 215lbs 7-8%bf 6'2" 22yrs old

 

[Makavelli]

I would bump the test to 500 at least and the D-Bol to 50 mgs/day. I would also run the deca the whole ten weeks.

 

[Workout King]

Why would you suggest to up the test? Just wondering. WOuld it be for the gains or to help combat deca sides? I figured that at only 250mg a week of deca the slightly higher test should be able to handle that?

yeah, I'm gonna get some extra dbol to keep on hand just incase I want to up it also

And for winny, i'm gonna get some just for giggles, might through it in after the dbol, especially if i start seeing problems from the deca? Since winny helps combat deca(prolactin?) sides? and if I do add it for this purpose, how much/ and how often would I use it? I can't really find much info on this...

I mainly want to make sure I have everything I may need on hand before the cycle starts

 

[KRATOS25]

sounds awesome man, just started that same cycle with 30mg dbol 200mg deca 300mg test. In my second week and feeling the dbol and loving it. never took winny so know ideas.good luck man sure you'll love anything with test deca and dbol in it.

 

[Workout King]

Thanks for the feed back!

Kratos, whats the duration of everything and what all do you have for pct? I wanna make sure I do this all right! :-D

What about front loading any suggestions on that? I would really like to only run the deca for 8 weeks so It will have a little extra time to clear my system while i'm on test and can start PCT pretty soon afterwards. So I was thinking of going 500mg deca for the first 2 weeks to frontload and use it all up by the end :-D But of course I'd want to at least match that frontload with 500mg of test the first two weeks also. Whaddya guys think?

 

[cranny]

Just my opinion bro but you said this will be your first real cycle. Why not just run Test E @ 500/wk. for 10 and let that be it. See how your body reacts to it. Then you can always stack other forms of gear together in a later cycle. Because after that first cycle you will want to do more and more . To me there's no need in rushing in balls to the wall. You never know, you may blow up like a brama bull not ever running any gear before. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Workout King]

I really want to make the meat of my cycle be the deca, I've got down a nice program to work through with my legs to try and get them in a decent shape, its increased collagen synthysis and synovioal fluid will really help with that, also, it really seems to be loved by a lot of guys around here

And as far as going balls to the wall, I really didn't think I was going to far out, 500mg-550mg of test and deca for the run and a mild dose of dbol.

But thanks a lot for the reply, and I DO HOPE i blow up like a brama bull!

 

[KRATOS25]

4-5 weeks dbol at 30mg 10 weeks deca 200mg 10 weeks test 300mg clomid nolvadex for pct its a trial and error process every body is different. so far so good for me. I LOVE DBOL

 

[cranny]

I was saying balls to the wall because of you stacking 3 dif. compounds together for your first cycle. That's not a crazy stack at all. That's a classic cycle which I don't think you could do much better than that for bulking. I was just suggesting that there's plenty of time for multiple compounds. Anyway, I think that will be an awesome cycle for you. When you do run it, I would run the deca 2 wks. shorter than the test. Peace

 

[BIGJAKE]

22 years old first cycle and you are going to stack 3 compounds. Wrong!!!! fuck it dive in head first Hu ????

 

[sweed]

my first cycle this past spring was test and dbol... i am 22 and i was about 228 when i started. with that test at 500 and dbol at 30 mgs, i got up to 253 max.. that was good enough for a first cycle... ext cycle is gonna add some deca. do what you want but the test dbol was good enough

 

[BIGJAKE]

my first cycle this past spring was test and dbol... i am 22 and i was about 228 when i started. with that test at 500 and dbol at 30 mgs, i got up to 253 max.. that was good enough for a first cycle... ext cycle is gonna add some deca. do what you want but the test dbol was good enough

I just look at it like this. First time trying steroids don't even know what type of reaction your body might have. Why not make it simple 500mg test for 10 weeks see how you respond ???? Then take you time off and give the 2 compounds a try your next run. Just IMO I would start out simple. This method may have worked for you.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

I agree with above statement. I would run test only for first cycle. You're only 22. You have all the time in the world to try other steroids in your next cycles. Good luck with whichever way you go bro!

 

[02gixxersix2]

Just my opinion bro but you said this will be your first real cycle. Why not just run Test E @ 500/wk. for 10 and let that be it. See how your body reacts to it. Then you can always stack other forms of gear together in a later cycle. Because after that first cycle you will want to do more and more . To me there's no need in rushing in balls to the wall. You never know, you may blow up like a brama bull not ever running any gear before. Just my 2 cents.

Yeah thats what I was gonna recommend. You don't need more than test on a first cycle. Some people gain as much as 30lbs on a first cycle of test and trust me your not gonna gain anymore with the deca and dbol. Plus if you start to get gyno or high blood pressure or a lot of water retention you won't know which one is doing it.

 

[Workout King]

hey guys, thanks a lot for all the replies! I'm starting to see a good trend. So I'm looking to redo my cycle

But with what I have on the way i'd only be able to get 300-333mg of test a week, with 2 weeks being able to double dose. 12 iranian amps, depending on batch I've seen numbers just over 300 to almost 350 each, these are supposed to be 333mg. So what would you guys say to an amp a week for 8-10 weeks, maybe double up the first week or so? or maybe just a little dbol to start out?

And as far as cycles go, i've done 1-ad, M1t x2 and am currently doing an M1t/Mohn. which will be over early sept.

once again, thanks a lot for the feedback! I really didn't think I was going to far out, but I trust you guys, so I'm gonna see about reworking this

 

[sweed]

2 amps a week.. i used thos irainians, get 12 more. one certain batch was 333 mgs/ml// and some around 300.. 2 should be a good amount for your size.

 

[Workout King]

Bah, I wish I could get 12 more :'( Well, Might be able to by the time I use the first twelve if I go ahead at 2x a week.

But I was thinking about maybe scrapping out the remainder of my m1t/mohn cycle. hit my clomid/nolva/letro, and start test after pct is done from that, and then put the mohn/m1t in with that. Hmm, dunno. Just a thought.

 

[sweed]

why can't u get 12 more?