First cycle reviews?

[sailbo]

What do you all think of this first cycle?
5'7" 170lbs, 21y/o, approx 12%bf, training for about 3 years. Havent been training hard for the past 6 months and looking for a big "kick start" to my workout program.

TT Deca- 300mg/wk 1-8
Sostanon 250 redijects- 500mg/wk 1-8
Dianabol 30mg/ED wk 1-4

Liquidex- .5mg(or .25??) EOD wk 1-8
Clomid- 150mg first day, 100mg for 10 days, then 50mg for 10 days /wk 12-14

What do you think of this combination for a first time user? Any other supplements that should be added for protection, or increased results?

 

[Silent Method]

IMO, looks a tad heavy for a first cycle. That is, I'd have been scared to do three different drugs before I knew what one of the did alone. IMO the plan looks pretty good.

On the other hand, I sure do not like the idea of using drugs to "kick start" yourself back into training. I'd hit the gym hot and heavy for AT LEAST 8 WEEKS before starting a cycle.

Good luck...

 

[sailbo]

too much in a 1st cycle? if so, how do you all suggest I adjust it?

 

[frorider6]

Personally, I say drop the D-Bol all together, do the sust at 250 mg per week or 250mg every 5 days (don't know the mg/week amount that is), and bring the deca back to 200 (300 might be okay, I don't know much about it).

But that's just my opinion.

 

[HugeWannabe]

Looks good to me, not much point is dropping the dbol, it will only be active while the sust and deca are not even working yet. I did 500mg sust for my first cycle, make sure to run an anti E with that like arimidex at .25mg ED. Clomid after. Make sure diet is 100% thats what it takes to make the most out of your first cycle, plan out a diet and post it on here for replies, keep protein intake as high as possible.

 

[Axe]

I personally think doing a cycle now is a bad idea for you. If you haven't trained hard in 6 mos you should get your shit together for several reasons
1. You need to toughen up so your body will be able to deal with the heavy poundages you are going to be moving with your new muscles
2.Get into shape so you do not waste the gas making gains you would have made naturally
3."kick starting" yourself with juice you run the risk of being the type of guy that only hits the gym while you are "on"

 

[HugeWannabe]

I personally think doing a cycle now is a bad idea for you. If you haven't trained hard in 6 mos you should get your shit together for several reasons
1. You need to toughen up so your body will be able to deal with the heavy poundages you are going to be moving with your new muscles
2.Get into shape so you do not waste the gas making gains you would have made naturally
3."kick starting" yourself with juice you run the risk of being the type of guy that only hits the gym while you are "on"

this is all very true, it is easy to fall into this trap

 

[chronic2371]

You may to train hard for two months and then start the AS.

Other than that the cycle looks good. I would run the l-dex through the end of clomid therapy.

 

[sailbo]

How much liquidex do u recommend? and how frequent? So I should run it from week 1-14??

 

[Axe]

How much liquidex do u recommend? and how frequent? So I should run it from week 1-14??

@500 sust/wk which is what I a currently running. I am doing 1mg eod. You should run it right through the end of clomid.

 

[G ChildlihC G]

Drop the dbol, and at 500sus, I would run .25 ED of Arim or Liquidex

 

[projection]

I worked out for 3 years, then took off for about 2 years. I did the same thing to get my ass back in the gym , I "kick started" with anavar and suspension. That was three years ago, so it helped me get going and keep going, however everyones willpower is different.

 

[Swoleyoley]

looks good, just drop the d-bol

 

[supertilin]

i became one of those who used as to jumpstart myself
back into training. it makes it alot more depressing when you
come off as becasue you see great results at first then they slowly diminish. that can cause you to stop lifting. happened to me once it can happen to you. definetly lift for a while before you start. make it a routine

 

[mvmaxx]

If you decide to run the dbol along with the sust then I'd keep the Liquidex @ 1mg/ED and have Nolvadex on hand. If this is your first cycle then you won't know how you react to estrogen sides, so better to be safe than sorry IMO.

I did that exact same cycle and my childhood gyno got worse during week 3. I believe it was from the dbol. BTW, I was running .50mg/ED of Liquidex during that time. Nolvadex @ 40mg/ED and bumping the Liquidex to 1mg/ED is what got it back down to where it was before.

 

[sailbo]

Do I have to worry about any progesterone gyno from the deca or should I be safe with the combo I have now?

 

[mvmaxx]

You should be fine with 300mg/week but I'd take the Vitex just in case. It's cheap and will help lower prolactin levels which is the root cause.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Bro, I know you don't want to hear this, but I'm not gonna sugar coat it, or pump sunshine up your ass: If you can't find motivation to train, or train hard without gear, then you are doing something wrong, and should run, not walk away from the gear for now. If you are looking for a 'little' kickstart now, you will say this to yourself next time you get stuck in the gym (and by the way, 6 months is a long time. something is definitly wrong with training, rest or nutrition). Next thing you know, you will *need* gear just to get to the gym.

You need to work on your training and nutrition, because that is probably were the real problem is. Once you have done that, you can fully dedicate yourself to eating properly, and working out right, then and only then should you look into the juice. Remember it's no miracle pill, if you can't get it together without it, you won't be able to with it. It's just that simple.

What does your current eating, rest and training look like? Maybe some of us bro's can help you get back on track.

I know you or someone else will probably post some crap back, or you will just end up doing the cycle anyway. So, with that in mind, I will give you advice that it just is too much for a first time cycle, and I would drop the d-bol for sure, and reconsider the dosages of the others. As for clomid dosaging, some say that isn't the way to dose it, others say it is. Go figure.

Good luck with what ever you decide to do, and I hope you find your 'groove' again.

 

[Realgains]

What do you all think of this first cycle?
5'7" 170lbs, 21y/o, approx 12%bf, training for about 3 years. Havent been training hard for the past 6 months and looking for a big "kick start" to my workout program.

TT Deca- 300mg/wk 1-8
Sostanon 250 redijects- 500mg/wk 1-8
Dianabol 30mg/ED wk 1-4

Liquidex- .5mg(or .25??) EOD wk 1-8
Clomid- 150mg first day, 100mg for 10 days, then 50mg for 10 days /wk 12-14

What do you think of this combination for a first time user? Any other supplements that should be added for protection, or increased results?

I would recommend this bro........and I am telling ya its plenty for a guy your size as you are probably 20 pounds away from your natural maximum, or the max weight you could gain as a natural.

You wouldn't need that much gear unless you were at least at your natural max and even then its a lot.

Just do this.........Test cyp or enenthate 500mg/week . Test gives great gains on its own as it has great activity at the androgen receptors and also works well via non AR mediated mechanisms(its a class 1 and class 2 hormone) Inject 250 twice per week for the very best blood levels.
I don't recommend sust as it really requires three injections per week due to the prop ester in the mix.

If you want to get the cycle off to a quick start then do a small front load as this will get blood levels up to gaining levels quickly....it is way less of a "shock" than the d-bol bro thats for sure. D-bol is very harsh IMO. Don't be afraid of a small front load even as a newbie and don't do the d-bol.

TRY THIS>>>>>>600mg of test cyp or enanthate on day one followed by the first regular injection of 250 three days latter then continue on with injecting twice per week at 250 each.

Run the cycle for 8 weeks and then stop. Two weeks after your last shot do clomid at 300mg on day one.....this front load is important...take it in 5 divided doses. Then contimue on with 50-100mg per day for ten days and then 50 per day for another ten days.

Really bro 500 of test per week with a small front load is the way to go. 500 is plenty for great gains since you are far from your natural max. Guys that are at or above their natural max need a lot more to make gains but you don't so don't waste money and risk more in the way of sides with higher doses.

*** Be sure to have nolvadex on hand!

 

[Axe]

Mr. c3bodybuilding

Nice post my man, karma for you