First Cycle. Goal: Lean Gains.

[legendz]

I've been working out for a few years and I'm thinking of using juice for the first time. My goal would be to see a noticeable increase in lean muscle mass and keep as much of it as possible. Looking for a relatively hard, but much more massive look.

Stats:
33 years old
6 ft 2.5 in tall
237 lbs

I keep seeing suggestions that the first cycle or two should be as simple as possible, so I'm considering using only Test Enanthate 500mg/week for the entire 12 week cycle.

My concern is that the test alone may make me more bloated than I would want, so I was thinking of throwing in either Equipoise or Winstrol for the second half of the cycle (weeks 7-12). Is this a good idea for a first cycle and, if yes, at what dosage? (I assume, if I were to use these additional compounds, I would need to reduce the dose of testosterone enanthate.)

I'm also planning to use Nolvadex at 30mg/day for the 4 or 5 weeks after the cycle as PCT, and as necessary during the cycle.

Finally, would you also recommend HCG either for the two weeks before PCT (at 500 IU/day) or during the cycle (at 250 IU eod)? (Or not at all?)

Thanks.

 

[misticat]

hold of the e

 

[misticat]

hold off the eq till your next cycle... finish off the last 6 weeks with some winny...

 

[solidspine]

First cycle,

Test E only is fine 1000mg is what I would recommend

Inject twice a week for 12 weeks.

Anti E- AIFM, Nolvadex

PCT-HCG 1000IU for 10 days with Nolvadex


Over

 

[legendz]

hold off the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - till your next cycle... finish off the last 6 weeks with some Winstrol - stanozolol...

So, you think Winstrol would be more effective than Equipoise for lean gains on a first cycle?

 

[legendz]

First cycle,

testosterone enanthate only is fine 1000mg is what I would recommend

Inject twice a week for 12 weeks.

Anti E- AIFM, Nolvadex

PCT - post cycle therapy - -HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 1000IU for 10 days with Nolvadex


Over

What's AIFM? You don't think your dosages of the Test E and HCG are too high for a first-time user? Thanks.

 

[TM248]

1000mg a week for a beginner?? i think that is too high! i used 250mg/week for 10 weeks and got amazing results... and he could get bad sides from test... since he's a first time user no one can predict how he will react... start with 250/week and if its good then keep it...if you feel like you canhandle more then try 500
TM

 

[hyp1]

do yourself a favor and stick with ONE compound for your first cycle bro ran at a low dose.you will be surprised at how much you can grow off of 250mgs a week of testosterone enanthate a week ran for 10 to 12 weeks if you train and eat correctly.you don't even know how you will respond to gear in general.......and whether or not you're prone to gear induced acne,gynecomastia,or hair loss.at least if you're running one compound and you experience sides you will know exactly what the compound is and can adjust accordingly.you need to learn how to crawl before you can attempt running.

post cycle therapy would be a breeze also at that dose,btw

 

[Pump2356]

1000mg a week for a beginner?? i think that is too high! i used 250mg/week for 10 weeks and got amazing results... and he could get bad sides from test... since he's a first time user no one can predict how he will react... start with 250/week and if its good then keep it...if you feel like you canhandle more then try 500
TM

I agree. 1000mg for a firt cycle or even an advanced user is dangerous.
I did 250mg every 5th day and got amazing quality mass results . I also got some side effects I wasn't too happy about but could control them because I used such a low dosage. Everyone reacts differently.

to the OP, try 250mg to 350mg a week of testosterone . Or maybe even 250mg of test a week stacked with 200mg of primobolan. That should produce some very nice quality mass.

 

[legendz]

Incidentally, a couple years ago, my doctor noticed that my natural test levels were lower than they should be for my age. So, the cycle should help in that regard as well.

 

[xrsist]

First cycle,

testosterone enanthate only is fine 1000mg is what I would recommend

Inject twice a week for 12 weeks.

Anti E- AIFM, Nolvadex

PCT - post cycle therapy - -HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 1000IU for 10 days with Nolvadex


Over

what the fuck is wrong with you 1gram a week for a first timer?? i know where this came from. go back to af and continue giving him handjobs and stay there because your advise nowa days is bullshit. take your aifm with you also, an AI containing dhea what a crock of shit.

 

[holy ghost]

lmao i read about hat

what was that one called

 

[gslben]

1000mg's ???

Lil much don't u think?