First cycle. Few problems

[JAVIP]

Hey guys whats up?

I started my first cycle of test cypionate 3 weeks ago, tomorrow is going to be my 4th shot. I wanted to test my body and see how it would react, unluckly it seems that i'm a bit gyno prone. Im barely into my fourth week and my nepples started to get puffy this past weekend, i inmediately ordered some letro ( I know i should have had it in hand before starting the cycle) but it wont be here until friday. Do you guys think that is too long of a wait???
I could not get any nolva so i went with the best next powerful thing.

My stats are:

24 years old
185 lbs
15-17% body fat

Im going to do 10 weeks of cyp 1cc/200ml. I know its low but I wanted to see how i reacted to test cyp before i went into a big cycle.

What should i do until my letro gets here? Should i stop the cycle? Please advice

My pct will include nolva and clomid. very simple stuff.

 

[jcb_phlps]

You dont need the nolva on cycle. You can use letro but its really strong. You can get an AI all over the web. You should have gotten some forma stanzol from Mr.supps or som aromasin or a-dex. Even if it is to long to wait its not like the test is going to quit working for awhile. You said for PCT your running Nolva and Clomid you dont have them on hand? I'm not trying to burn you but sounds like you were real unprepared. Also at 200mg I would think that thats just enough to shut you down and not enough to see serious gains but who knows maybe it will play out in your favor. But yeah you could have taken the nolva if was on hand until the letro got there sorry my dude. PCT is kinda weak bro I would deffinatley run an AI and you might want to look into some HCG or HCgenerate not because of your dose but just because of the duration. Dont run the letro PCT cause you can have some rebound when you come off you really need to get some A-dex, Aromasin, or forma to run in PCT with maybe just your clomid if thats all you have no need to run the Clomid and Nolva both.

 

[aj13]

Wow, first of all if you are getting puffy nipples from 200mg of test cyp maybe steroids or atleast test isnt for you because it would seem you are hyper-sensitive to it or prone to gyno.

Secondly, Nolva aint gonna be more powerful than Letro - you got the right thing. This is some powerful shit and Iv heard of people trying it to reverse gyno. Ill wait for one of the other guys to reply with the correct dosage. im guessing .25/mg EOD will not be enough

 

[nydj66]

letro is very strong (strong enough to completely wipe out your libido) and it can reverse gyno (I successfully used it to get rid of lumps I had for 3 years.) But it also has a very long half-life and will take a week or so to kick in.

It would have been good to have nolva on hand so you could start that right away. Even so, you should be ok. Gyno takes a while to become permanent. For your next cycle, you'll want to start with an AI right from the beginning and play with the dosage until you can maintain libido and still avoid gyno.

 

[JAVIP]

Thanks for your quick replies guys. I know I was a bit unprepared and i should have gotten this stuff before starting my cycle, but i would have never thought that after only 3 weeks on 200 mg of test, i would start to see some gyno develop, its crazy.
Maybe this isnt my best way but im already in it, i read a lot before jumping on it but i just couldnt find the source for my pct and ai until now. I got the letro from ar-r, heard good things about it but i will not run it as pct becuase of the rebound. Instead i will run nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50.
I tried to get some aromasin or nolva but they are out of stock, but i will definately get it soon.
On the good side I gain about 6 punds in the first 3 weeks, muscles are harder and lost some fat off my chest.

 

[JAVIP]

strong enough to completely wipe out your libido

How big of a dasage are we talking about?? I gotta keep the wife happy

 

[nydj66]

strong enough to completely wipe out your libido

How big of a dasage are we talking about?? I gotta keep the wife happy

When I used it to get rid of gyno lumps I used 2.5mg/day for 30 days. If my wife put her hand on my shoulder, it irritated me; that's how bad my libido was.

For me, 0.25mg/day will prevent gyno and keep my libido intact.

BTW, skip the nolvadex for PCT. Clomid is really the PCT drug. There's no evidence that nolvadex helps PCT at all and my own experience confirms that fact.

 

[JAVIP]

I dont have any lumps or coloring, just a bit puffy, thats all, but they look just like the pics from wikipedia on AAS induced gyno. My guess is that this is just starting and i need to get it taken care of right away before it gets worse.

Should i still take my shot today??

 

[wiley79]

Yeah go ahead and take another test shot, the testosterone is still in your system from last time so it really wont matter until friday in my opinion. Just now ya know to be better prepared.

 

[JAVIP]

thaks for all the help. i thought that my body would react differently but i guess not. One more question, after i start thr letro at 0.25 a day, how long should i ran it for? until my cycle its over or until i see some results? how can i prevent rebound? and when should i start pct? a week after my last shot? or after the life of the ester is gone 14 days?