first cycle, DBol/EQ

[badfish]

barring any unfortunate legal issues with delivery, i am set to start my first cycle within a few weeks. i have ordered 2 vials of BD EQ 10ml/200mg, 100 tabs of BD 10mg DBol and some clomid and nolvadex.

i plan on running EQ at 400mg a week for 10 weeks and the DBol at 20mg a day for week 1 then 30mg a day weeks 2-5 to jump start my cycle.

i have been training for 8 years, i am 25 weigh 175 at 5'10" and bodyfat is low, between 6-8%.

current diet is pretty tight. 3000 cals and 280 grams protein a day, flax oil, and tons of water. ill buy some whey protein for the cycle and throw down 3 shakes in a day, adding another 150g protein, and ill throw a bunch of shit in my shakes to bump my cals up to about 4500 a day.

id be happy to gain 15-20 pounds and improve my strength.

anybody have any feedback? would be appreciated! thanks

 

[Mavy]

Looks pretty tight bro. Simple and effective. Thats a good idea to start out with the dbol at 20mgs. You may not even have to up the dosage depending how you respond to it. SOme do well of a low dose of dbol, while others need a higher dose.

DEFINATELY add "a bunch of shit" to your shakes when on the dbol .. you will want to stuff as much protein in your face as possible to promote the buildup of protien when taking the dbol. Good that you have some nolva, may want to run some with the dbol, or an aromatase inhibitor. I wouldnt worry about bloat so much with the dbol as you sound like an ecto by your stats.

Make sure you have a good pct in order.
Mavy

 

[badfish]

mavy, thanks

im not an ecto though, a few years ago i reached 220 natural, was peaked out so decided to dedicate myself to diet to shred up. so ive had both ends of the spectrum naturally.

PCT is something that has changed a lot since i did most of my heavy research a few years ago. back then, rule of thumb was keep nolva handy in case of gyno and use clomid post cycle to regain natural test levels. these days looks like people prefer nolva over clomid post cycle. arimidex wasnt around back then either, so i dont know much about it.

i wanted to do var with the EQ, but god damn thats expensive. guess i can live with some water retention for the price.

 

[buckwheat1]

barring any unfortunate legal issues with delivery, i am set to start my first cycle within a few weeks. i have ordered 2 vials of BD EQ 10ml/200mg, 100 tabs of BD 10mg DBol and some clomid and nolvadex.

i plan on running EQ at 400mg a week for 10 weeks and the DBol at 20mg a day for week 1 then 30mg a day weeks 2-5 to jump start my cycle.

i have been training for 8 years, i am 25 weigh 175 at 5'10" and bodyfat is low, between 6-8%.

current diet is pretty tight. 3000 cals and 280 grams protein a day, flax oil, and tons of water. ill buy some whey protein for the cycle and throw down 3 shakes in a day, adding another 150g protein, and ill throw a bunch of shit in my shakes to bump my cals up to about 4500 a day.

id be happy to gain 15-20 pounds and improve my strength.

anybody have any feedback? would be appreciated! thanks

I bet you would be happy to gain 15-20 pounds. So would a lot of guys on here.

This is a good moderate cycle. Similiar to what I run. I am little heavier but have a higher bf%.

I think during the cycle you will probably go over the 15lb mark from the water retention. But after you drop the water, you should be happy if you get over 10 pounds of LBM.

But 10 pounds is a good gain.

 

[mookie]

Doing a similar cycle right now on my 1st week of Sus 500mg week EQ 400mg week and Dbol 40mg ED. Hope to gain about 20lbs. Your cycle sounds good keep us posted on your gains.

 

[badfish]

mookie what do you plan on running for PCT?

 

[mookie]

Clomid and Nolvadex. Running Proviron throughout the cycle and then taking Nolvadex week 10-12 and starting Clomid two weeks after my last Sus shot.

 

[badfish]

maybe ill just have to copy you, minus the proviron during the cycle. you aware of any over the counter sups that will help keep water retention to a minimum, with the exception of ECA?

 

[jubei]

Personally i'd throw in some test even at a low dose (200mg/week or so).