First AAS cycle.

[A Soft Koala]

Hey guys this will be the first time pinning. This is also my first time posting as you can see. I have been lurking on different sites for about a year now searching for info and decided you guys give great advice on EF and I would like to get some feedback from you all before I start my cycle.
Stats:
26 y/o
185lbs (cut down to 190, then got sick for 3 weeks with strep :/).
5'10"
11% bf
Macros: Protein 40%, carbs 35%, fats 25% (maintenance cals are about 3600-3800)
Past cycles: super dmz, m-stane (bunk), m1t,
Planned cycle: Recomp.
Test E: 250mg every M/Th. 500mg/week. Week 1-10.
Dbol: 37.5mg/day for days 1-33. Dosing is weird because I split the 25mg caps in half with emptied creating caps. So that's 3 12.5 mg caps per day.
Aromasin: 12.5mg ED starting week 2. AI plus keep down bloat.
Support sups: I go overboard sometimes with support sups, if you want me to list them I will.
PCT: Starting 2 weeks after last pin.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Ostarine at 12.5/day
CEL PCT assist.
DAA 3/3/3/3
Creatine

I have clomid and letro on hand. Also bought caber which I won't need for this run. I am thinking of picking up 2 bottles of Forma to run the last 4 weeks of cycle through the first 2 of PCT. Any thoughts/comment are appreciated!

 

[All In a Year]

Hey guys this will be the first time pinning. This is also my first time posting as you can see. I have been lurking on different sites for about a year now searching for info and decided you guys give great advice on EF and I would like to get some feedback from you all before I start my cycle.
Stats:
26 y/o
185lbs (cut down to 190, then got sick for 3 weeks with strep :/).
5'10"
11% bf
Protein 40, carbs 35, fats 25 (maintenance cals are about 3600-3800)
Past cycles: super dmz, m-stane (bunk), m1t,
Planned cycle: Recomp.
Test E: 250mg every M/Th. 500mg/week. Week 1-10.
Dbol: 27.5mg/day for days 1-33. Dosing is weird because I split the 25mg caps in half with emptied creating caps. So that's 3 12.5 mg caps per day.
Aromasin: 12.5mg ED starting week 2. AI plus keep down bloat.
Support sups: I go overboard sometimes with support sups, if you want me to list them I will.
PCT: Starting 2 weeks after last pin.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Ostarine at 12.5/day
CEL PCT assist.
DAA 3/3/3/3
Creatine

I have clomid and letro on hand. Also bought caber which I won't need for this run. I am thinking of picking up 2 bottles of Forma to run the last 4 weeks of cycle through the first 2 of PCT. Any thoughts/comment are appreciated!

Fuck nolva! Use clomid instead. And def use Forma, good stuff.

I'm very confused about your diet. 40 grams of protein day and 35 carbs a day? Is this a typo? You would gain nothing on a diet like that. What are your goals?

 

[All In a Year]

And.. Since when does dbol come in caps? Every time I've used or seen dbol they were tablets.

 

[Rampaage]

I believe those are his macros.

 

[ConanX]

I'm guessing the food is PER MEAL right?

Cycle looks pretty solid. Only thing I'd add is some HCG in there. People do fine with Nolva. I prefer Clomid because it has more of an affect on test production, in my opinion.

Since its your first time pinning and you're only pinning 2x a week, grab a hold of some 1cc insulin pins, either 27ga or 29ga 1/2" and do your 1cc shots with that in the delts instead of a big 1 1/2" 3cc 23ga in the ass which can be awkward for a noob. . Just a suggestion

 

[A Soft Koala]

Fuck nolva! Use clomid instead. And def use Forma, good stuff.

I'm very confused about your diet. 40 grams of protein day and 35 carbs a day? Is this a typo? You would gain nothing on a diet like that. What are your goals?

Do you suggest clomid at 50/50/25/25? Maybe front load at 100 the first 2 days? Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to percentage of macros. Diet is roughly 40% protein, 35% carbs, 25% fats. Yeah I had fifty 25mg caps from a trusted lab that a friend has used many times with success. My goals are to gain 10-12lbs lbm and lose 1-2% bf after PCT is finished.

 

[stevesmi]

run clomid 12mg a day. that is all you need. the half life is long enough where you will have plenty in your system.. you don't need to run 100mg or some crazy dose they recommend online

 

[A Soft Koala]

I'm guessing the food is PER MEAL right?

Cycle looks pretty solid. Only thing I'd add is some HCG in there. People do fine with Nolva. I prefer Clomid because it has more of an affect on test production, in my opinion.

Since its your first time pinning and you're only pinning 2x a week, grab a hold of some 1cc insulin pins, either 27ga or 29ga 1/2" and do your 1cc shots with that in the delts instead of a big 1 1/2" 3cc 23ga in the ass which can be awkward for a noob. . Just a suggestion

I was under the impression HCG was usually used for cycles that are longer then 12 weeks. I'm a little unfamiliar with its dosing protocol as well. What are your thoughts on forma or hcGhenerate? Ok I will switch to clomid instead of nolva PCT. My friend showed me how to pin my quads with a 1" 23g and it was painless and pretty simple. I think I am pretty comfortable with that location. Thank you for the help.

 

[A Soft Koala]

run clomid 12mg a day. that is all you need. the half life is long enough where you will have plenty in your system.. you don't need to run 100mg or some crazy dose they recommend online

So 2 weeks after last pin run clomid 12/12/12/12?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ along with a natty supp.

i also recommend you running hcg to kickstart your PCT.

and during cycle you definately need an AI and either hcg or hcgenerate

 

[A Soft Koala]

^^^ along with a natty supp.

i also recommend you running hcg to kickstart your PCT.

and during cycle you definately need an AI and either hcg or hcgenerate

I'm unfamiliar with how/when to dose HCG. Any info would be appreciated. I have aromasin I was planning on starting 2 weeks into the cycle at 12.5mg ED. Hcgenerate can take the place of HCG?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ hcgenerate is an herb that does what hcg does.

what i like to do to make things simple in that type of cycle is start hcgenerate week 4-5 until end of cycle.. then you run hcg 1000iu's for 5 injections each after last injection every 3-4 days. your nuts will be plump as a rock going into pct and it will make recovery easy.

without that you go into PCT with raisin nuts and thats like pushing a volvo up a mountain

and you definately need an AI during cycle unless you want to look like a bloated fish.. start the AI right away.. i recommend forma

 

[A Soft Koala]

^^^ hcgenerate is an herb that does what hcg does.

what i like to do to make things simple in that type of cycle is start hcgenerate week 4-5 until end of cycle.. then you run hcg 1000iu's for 5 injections each after last injection every 3-4 days. your nuts will be plump as a rock going into pct and it will make recovery easy.

without that you go into PCT with raisin nuts and thats like pushing a volvo up a mountain

and you definately need an AI during cycle unless you want to look like a bloated fish.. start the AI right away.. i recommend forma

Thank you for your help. So hcgenerate starting week 4 or 5 of cycle to the end of cycle. Then after last injection of test start 1000iu's HCG every 3 or 4 days for a total of 5 pins or 5000iu's. Same injection site (quad) alright? Ok I will start Aromasin 12.5mg ED when my cycle starts.

 

[stevesmi]

hcg can be injected sub Q anywhere you wish.

 

[bren565]

I just want to comment now, on sometrhing important, ok?

that this guy gave age and stats and all that shit before hand, he CLEARLY READ THE FIRST THREAD.


I have begun to see how mods are getting annoyed..

 

[A Soft Koala]

hcg can be injected sub Q anywhere you wish.

Thank you very much for your help Steve. I'll probably pin it below my naval.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ right or left of your navel is best. grab some skin and go in there with a slin pin

 

[A Soft Koala]

Will do, thank you!

 

[ConanX]

Good advice by Steve ^^^

 

[TheSVPdeal]

I'm unfamiliar with how/when to dose HCG. Any info would be appreciated. I have aromasin I was planning on starting 2 weeks into the cycle at 12.5mg ED. Hcgenerate can take the place of HCG?

I would start the aromasin right away at 12.5 e3d. If you start noticing bloat, go to eod. That should be enough.

I love forma for PCT.

 

[zsimpson22]

And.. Since when does dbol come in caps? Every time I've used or seen dbol they were tablets.

I know many legit sources that have their dbol in caps. Weird I know, but it being legitimate is all that matters.

 

[A Soft Koala]

I would start the aromasin right away at 12.5 e3d. If you start noticing bloat, go to eod. That should be enough.

I love forma for PCT.

So maybe pin and take 12.5mg aromasin on M/Th?

 

[TheSVPdeal]

So maybe pin and take 12.5mg aromasin on M/Th?

Try every 3 days

 

[A Soft Koala]

Try every 3 days

Ok I'll start at that dose. 12.5mg aromasin e3d. Thank you!

 

[1Johnboy]

I pin with 25gx1 inch in my quads no problem, it is painless I do not feel a thing. I alternate sides btw. Good job on posting your stats as thats what the Mods and others look for here before helping.

 

[rich_89]

This is exactly what a post presenting yourself should be like! Stats, diet, and clearly done some research.

If you are running aromasin throughout, i would switch to forma for pct, no need to stack forma and aromasin, its overkill. I'd also consider adding HCG or HCGenerate on cycle, to keep your nuts plump.

 

[A Soft Koala]

Thank you, I'm just doing my best trying to follow the rules here. I already bought a case of the 23g 1.5" pins but I will remember the 25g 1" for a future cycle. Oh and thank you for the info about switching legs, I will try that out when I start. I have searched a little for HCgenerate and it is a hard product to find. Most places seem to be sold out at the moment. I will try to place an order for some HCG before I start. Do you recommend I stay on aromasin during PCT and not use forma, or should I spend the extra cash and buy a bottle of forma for PCT and drop the aromasin?

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Thank you, I'm just doing my best trying to follow the rules here. I already bought a case of the 23g 1.5" pins but I will remember the 25g 1" for a future cycle. Oh and thank you for the info about switching legs, I will try that out when I start. I have searched a little for HCgenerate and it is a hard product to find. Most places seem to be sold out at the moment. I will try to place an order for some HCG before I start. Do you recommend I stay on aromasin during PCT and not use forma, or should I spend the extra cash and buy a bottle of forma for PCT and drop the aromasin?

I always use 23gx1.5" needles.

Double dosing Bridge is the same as HCGenerate.

If you use aromasin throughout, as I suggested, drop it for PCT and use Forma.

 

[A Soft Koala]

I always use 23gx1.5" needles.

Double dosing Bridge is the same as HCGenerate.

If you use aromasin throughout, as I suggested, drop it for PCT and use Forma.

Ok will do. I will also look into bridge. I believe I saw that on ntbm. Thank you for the help!