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** Fina Prop Combo??

Can't speak about the fina/prop combo but his pure tren is working for me at the moment.

It hurts a lot because of the high ba though.Make sure you heat it up and get rid of the ba if you do go and get his tren.

Implants are illegal here so I have to go with the premade stuff.:(
 
i did the suspension/prop combo. i had to dump it 1 week in cause i couldnt take the pain anymore. THE GAINS WHERE BOOMING THOUGH!!
 
ba's boiling point is 402.7 and tests melting is 156 approx, your not boiling anything off but your gear...and i bet prop and fina burn like crazy, ouch...especially from the chinaman, goodlord
 
lol...why in the hell would you try it. make your own fina..atleast you know what is in it.
 
i tried his susp/prop combo and love it. the high ba doesnt bother me. i just wanted to know if the fina and fina/prop were the real deal and it sounds like they are. thanks guys.
 
djdjdjddjon said:
ba's boiling point is 402.7 and tests melting is 156 approx, your not boiling anything off but your gear...and i bet prop and fina burn like crazy, ouch...especially from the chinaman, goodlord


I have pasted below what I read from another site.
djdjdjddjon as you seem to have some knowledge on the boiling point of ba,could you give a quick read thru this and tell me what you think of it.

I'm using ip tren since implants are illegal here so it would be of great help to get this to work.




Words of advise from Animal



If you are ordering oils such as fina and eq that are either homemade, IP made, or some other underground manufacturer you should follow steps to ensure a clean sterile injection. Below is the following steps I have outlined in order to sterilize your product for a safe injection.

note: this also evaporates some of the BA so that the shot will be less painful. I acheive a totally painless injection with fina this way.

Microwave Sterilization
This is the easiest method to use and fastest.

step 1 - YOU MUST TAKE THE METAL SEAL OFF THE TOP OF THE VIAL!

step 2 - Nothing should be covering the top of the vial. Take the seal and the stopper off the top of the vial to where the oil is totally exposed. You can do this with a pair of pliers or some instrument that can pry the lid off. The seal will pry off pretty easily. I use a tool that is on my pocket knife. It resembles a can opener.

step 3 - Place the vial in the microwave. Make sure there is nothing covering the opening of the vial. Put the microwave on 20 seconds and hit start. After it is through let sit for about 5 minutes and then repeat 2 more times.

step 4 - After the 3rd time immediately take the vial out of the microwave. You may need mittens because it WILL be hot. At this point you should preload all your syringes while the liquid is still hot. This is my preferred method because it keeps everything sterile. Make sure to use 2 needles per syringe. 1 should be used to draw up the fluid. The other should be a clean one that will be injected in your ass. The top of the second one should NOT BE REMOVED until the time of injection. This ensures total sterility. If you do not want to preload your syringes then youw ill need to put the rubber stopper back on the syringe. Before you do that though plop it in the microwave for about 20 seconds on a paper towl or plate. Immediately take the stopper out and put it on the vial using the napkin to pick it up with. This is a pain in the ass though when the time comes to draw up the fluid. Not only do you expose the oil once again when you take the seal off but you risk spilling the oil all over the place. It is just easier to preload all the syringes when the oil is still hot and sterile. Then you dont have to mess with it at a later date and you can just inject

NOTE: I will be developing oil products soon. I will be using these same techniques to sterilize the oils I will be selling. The vials will be professionally sealed and will be ready to withdraw the fluid without first sterilizing.

Boil
This takes some time cause you have to bring the water to a boil and then put the vial in there. If you do not want to expose the oil because you will not be preloading then I would use this method or the bake method.

step 1 - Stick a needle from a syringe through the rubber top of the vial so that it is sticking through it by about a half an inch. The purpose of this is to allow the BA to evaporate out of the vial. If it does not then the vial WILL EXPLODE.

step 2 - Place the vial in a small pot. Fill the water level up to about a half an inch below the top of the vial. Turn on the stovetop to about medium high. You can even do high. (I do) Wait till the water starts boiling before you start counting down the minutes. Let the vial sit in the water for 15 minutes then remove. (the vial may move around in the water as the bubbles will push it around but it will not fall over)

step 3 - Sit the vial on a paper towl or other surface that can soak of any water. Take the needle out of the top of the vial before it cools. If you let it cool the needle will most likely get stuck there. It is actually smart to leave it in there though. This way you can just put the syringe on needle and draw up the fluid as you go. But if you do this make sure to put another syringe on there when you are through with filling the other one. If you dont you are leaving a small hole open to let bacteria get in. That is it for the boil method. You can preload the syringes if you like after you take the vial out. Beware though. It is a pain in the ass to attempt to preload the syringes with the top on there and the liquid is still hot cause you will have to turn it upside down to get the last bit of liquid in the syringes. That vial is very hot!

Bake Method
Bakind is pretty much the same procedure as the boil method. Just place the vial in a pan and put a needle in the top. Bake 15 minutes on 250 degrees. Wait about 10-15 min and repeat 2 more times.


I hope this helps some of you guys that may be weary about ordering IP gear and other vet products. All oils CAN be heat sterilized. If you take the correct procedures you will have IMO human grade products after you heat sterilize the product. Besides....test prop is test prop after all. It doesnt matter if a pharmaceutical company produces it or IP. As long as the dosages are correct it works the same way in your body. The only difference is human grade is sterile shipped to you and IP is not always sterile. It is just smart to heat sterilize it. For the money you cannot beat private lab made gear, and if proper sterilization processes are use it is the same thing as human grade.



IMPORTANT!
If your oil is shipped to you in a plastic container of some sort you cannot obviously put this in boiling water or the oven. You can however put this in the microwave for 20 seconds. If it is in a plastic container you must let the product totally cool though before reheating it 2 more times in the microwave or you risk the plastic vial melting.
 
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