FINA for FIRST CYCLE?

[BobbyJenious]

Never done any AAS, would fina be any good for a first cycle? I also have EQ, would one be better then the other. Mainly looking to harden up and gain some strength. Again ive never used AAS so im looking for simple and effeciant with minimal sides.
Thanks, BJenious

 

[thate]

Run them both:
Eq 400mg/week 10 weeks
Fina 75mg ed or eod weeks 7-12

 

[40butpumpin]

Never done any AAS, would fina be any good for a first cycle? I also have EQ, would one be better then the other. Mainly looking to harden up and gain some strength. Again ive never used AAS so im looking for simple and effeciant with minimal sides.
Thanks, BJenious

Forget about fina for your first cycle man. Eq is perfect for a first cycle and for what you're goals are IMO. I'd frontload the eq with say 800-1000mg your first shot and then do 400-500mg every week thereafter for 10-12 weeks. But again, forget about fina for your first cycle.

 

[thate]

Re: Re: FINA for FIRST CYCLE?

Forget about fina for your first cycle man. Eq is perfect for a first cycle and for what you're goals are IMO. I'd frontload the eq with say 800-1000mg your first shot and then do 400-500mg every week thereafter for 10-12 weeks. But again, forget about fina for your first cycle.

40butpumpin I get the impression that you absolutely hate fina bro. You must've had a bad experience.

 

[Johnny Cut]

why dont you run some test with the EQ, it will make a nice stack

 

[40butpumpin]

Re: Re: Re: FINA for FIRST CYCLE?

40butpumpin I get the impression that you absolutely hate fina bro. You must've had a bad experience.

I really don't hate it bro, just respect and fear it more than any other AS. You know it's ironic that I felt the best, and worst, that I have ever felt, on fina. I mean for a while I felt incredible on it, I mean I truly felt like I was in my 20's again. But then when I came off I crashed harder than I ever have in my life. My test levels went to near zero (I had a blood test), I got a bad case of BPH, I had some really bad anxiety and depression and just felt like plain shit. I know that some bro's swear by it, however, my experience is all I can go by. I didn't mean to disagree for the sake of disagreeing with you bro, however, I feel that for a first-timer, the sides I experienced -- if he were to get them -- would be a cold, sad lonely place and I'm afriad more than overwhelming. There's better coices man, there really are for a first timer IMHO.

hth, 40.

 

[gainerxxl]

40 is right, fina is just too harsh for a first cycle. This and daily injections make it a poor choice for a newbie. Someone new to AS will gain very good on an EQ only cycle, especially on 400-600mg /week. Only one injection per week, minimal sides along with decent gains is what you can expect from 600mg EQ/week.

 

[Silent Method]

NEWBIE don't be afraid of Tren!!

 

[hitmeoff]

40 is right, fina is just too harsh for a first cycle.

Right, you wanna start fucking up your system with something less harsh like test. Then when your ready to do some damage, throw in the Fina

Ok didnt mean to sound like a dick, but think about it. THeres nothing about a Vets body that will make it be able to tolerate Fina any better than a Newbie would. Granted, Fina is very androgenic, and if a newbie doesnt know how his body will act under heavy androgens, he might be in for a surprise with Fina. But at 75mg EOD or even at 75mg ED, whats the worst that can happen? He looses a lil more hair, gets a few more zits, and gets a little meaner than before.

If he runs just EQ and Fina, without test, chances are those problems wouldnt even be any worse if he was running a Test/EQ/Winny or a Test/EQ/Dbol cycle, and might actually be much more tame.

daily injections make it a poor choice for a newbie. Someone new to AS will gain very good on an EQ only cycle, especially on 400-600mg /week. Only one injection per week, minimal sides along with decent gains is what you can expect from 600mg EQ/week.

Ok you have a point here. The daily injections of Fina might be a little scary to the newbie, but if hes willing to go for it, I think its actually good for him. He gets to experiment with spot injects, and of course, practice makes perfect.

Ive was a pin cushion the better part of last year. Doing injects now is so damn routine, its scary. I couldnt imagine have this kind of savy had I not hit fina on my first cycle.

Plus, if he wants to put on some serious strength and harden up, theres no better choice than Fina.

 

[ROLGOR]

I did fina for my first cycle with winny and prop, loved it. I use it every cycle. Some people react badly others don't

 

[40butpumpin]

...THeres nothing about a Vets body that will make it be able to tolerate Fina any better than a Newbie would...

My concern isn't that it will affect his body any worse than a vets as it will obviously affect both the same, vet and newbie. However, a vet will be better equiped to deal with the potential crash, et al, from a psychological and physiological perspective. By that I mean he'll first be able to rationalize and understand what he's feeling in the midst of a serious crash, anxiety notwithstanding, and second to getting the proper med's to bounce back as quickly as possible.

My experience was not a unique or isolated one, on the contrary in fact. While I agree with ROLGOR 100% that some have a hard time and some do not, the probability is high that he will have problems. I base that on what I see on the boards. It appears to me to be a rough estimate of about half do well and half do not.

As far as newbies go, you have to think about "what if..." IMO. Especially with something as 'potentially' harsh as tren. Look, I'm not here as the "ban-tren-voice," but rather to voice a conservative opinion towards newbies and tren. The potential for a very harsh experience is there and any idea or opinion that it isn't is just irresponsible IMO. This last comment IS NOT directed at any opinion in particular.

 

[gimp]

I gained 20 lbs. on a Fina only cycle my first time. Didn't have any hairloss or other androgenic side effects, but, I barely ever slept. Fina gave me major insomnia and I sweated like a pig. Other than that my post crash was alot shorter and less prounounced than with OMNA (test). This is my experience, doesn't mean you'll have the same experience. I've never used homemade tren, I've always used a brand called FINABOLAN FORTE 70mg/cc, from Negma labs in France, whether it's faked or not I can't say, however it may be underdosed. I've often wondered as to whether or not when homebrewing Fina, if peoples dosages are correct or overdosed? If they are using too high a dose due to poor homebrewing, then this is where the side effects may be coming from.

 

[BobbyJenious]

Thanks for the advice bros, sounds like I may just run EQ at 400mg for 10 weeks. Any advice on splitting that up?

 

[bunkka]

I'd take it 200 MGs on Sun evenings and Thurs AM, personally.

If you can get your hands on it, you might want to add 3-400 MGs of Enanthate, too.

 

[BobbyJenious]

Enanthate?

 

[Racer-X99]

Well I am jumping in on this one. I did my first cycle of fina 75mg eod and enanthate 400mg/week and loved it. If you run an EQ cycle only you will most likely be disappointed. EQ is great for slow gains when stacked or taken at 800mg/week+. It is a good, but very mild steroid. You need to run EQ at least 10 weeks at 400mg/week+. If you do a EQ for 8 weeks you will be sorely disappointed. The fina/test combo is probably the best going. If you are worried about being aggressive with your body then do some prohormones, you don't need to be injecting.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but real gear is serious and can have serious, long-term side effects. Gear only helps you build what you have to create from dietary and hard, consistent training. Doing gear is very serious. Do tons of research before you even think about it. It may not be for you. Don't think that you just inject a couple times a week and you grow like a bodybuilder. There are tons of sides that many people choose to ignore. You are responsible for you actions and you need to make an educated decision on what is best for you.

 

[BigDan650dl]

first time tren

I used trenbolone for my first cycle. It was not overwhelming, kept to cycle short with very conservative dosage (75mg eod) and was happy. so far as the multiple injections are concerned, if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen, in other words, if you dont want to inject, then dont take steroids, personally I kind of like injecting in a sick sort of way. ANyway, put on 10 pounds in 5 weeks bench jumped up 50 pounds and slept like a baby. Do the tren!