Fina for beginners?

[brooksy1000]

I like the sound of the results on Fina but someone told me the other day its not for beginners. Whats the reason for that or would it be ok?
Lee.

 

[BloodyMule]

Yeah, remember.. None of this shit is for beginners. You won't be a beginner if you stay on this board and ask the right questions, and learn as much as you can... Good Luck.
Mule

 

[Scotsman]

First cycle

My first cycle was fina. Done with DMSO twice a day 60mg each time. Had awesome results and kept almost everything I got from it. The system supression you see is from a slightly different mechanism than with test. This supression should rebound very quickly after fina and allow you to keep your gains.

 

[ZeroCool]

Whats up Scotsman...did you stack anything with your Fin?

 

[Mr H]

Plus it can make you an angry, easily agitated, moody son of a bitch

It's best to learn to control your emotions before using such a drug.

 

[MadCow1]

It can effectively be used by beginners but with so many other choices available (none legally in the US of course so this may be the factor) why resort to this drug?

Side effects and high toxitity are also reasons people shy away from fina in addition to the rapid HPTA shutdown mentioned before. I wouldn't rate it as bad as Anadrol but IMO it's not that far behind.

I say a first timer can make a number of better choices than this drug. Of course the ease with which it is legally obtained and the price will keep newbies interested in it regardless.

 

[Zyglamail]

I am still looking for the studies showing fina's high toxicity that everyone is talking about but cant find anything but speculation. I have also done a lot of searching for sides such as gyno, hair loss etc. The only real thing I see people complain of(vets and newbies alike) are agression and in some loss of labido. Personally, the only sign I currently suffer from are frequent needle pokes and a funny taste in my mouth. As of right now, with my low dose of 75mg eod inj, I have nothing but praise for the product.

 

[JohnyJuice]

One of my friends who was using fina got a kidney infection during his second week of use. He was drinking 2-3 gallons of water a day and cranberry extract pills. He never had a kidney infection before. could be just coincedence, but who knows.

 

[Strong_Man20]

how much was he taking?? and was he pissing blood??

 

[Scotsman]

Zerocool. No I didn't stack anything with it the first couple of times. Then I added d-bol and that works very well.

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

I think that all the "kidney hype" is due to the potential for kidney infections with fina. Pissing blood is a common side of a kidney infection and there is no other reason why fina should be any harder on the kidneys due to AAS properties than any other AAS. My take on it is that the production of fina is a non-sterile process, held to lower standards than pharms made for humans, and is therefor more likely to cause kidney infection. This may also be a good reason why most who have had kidney problems have seemed to be those injecting since any contaminants or impurities would enter the blood stream directly- maybe the "kit" method also increases the risk for non-sterility and therefor kidney infections. I could easily see how making injectable tren at home could lead to the increased risk for kidney infections. I haven't heard of anyone using oral complain of pissing blood and this would make sense since the diegestion process would probably destroy any contaminants. I thin if you start to lok at all the pieces of the "puzzle" that this begins to make alot of sense. Let me know what you think- AD

 

[JohnyJuice]

yes, my friend was pissing blood. he had a nice kidney infection. If you are prone to kidney infections while on fina, is there anything you can do to prevent this? he wants to use fina again, but doesnt want another infection.

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

Using antibiotics while on it may help, but I'm no doctor and don't know whther this would be advisable either. Was he injecting/dmso/or oral?

 

[Zyglamail]

That theory could have some merit AnobolicDiabetic. Before we get too carried away though, there are a few kits out there as well and from my research, they are not all created equal. JohnyJ, what kit did your friend use?

Also note oral sonsumption may take away kidney strain, but places a lot more on your liver.

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

Zyg...I re-posted this as its own thread "Fina and Kidneys" if you want to continue there also...it would be great if this were the source and people could use some preventative measure to counteract it.

 

[JohnyJuice]

i am not sure what kit he used. But he got a kidney infection at about day 13 or so. Really bummed him out, cause he was seing awesome results. he was stacking it with 25mg of dbol. What kit do you all think is the best (especially as far as sterility)

 

[Zyglamail]

The A mans kit gets out a whole lot of junk. I have not used anything else, but have talked to some bro's that have. Those that do not use A's kit report cloudy, murky suspension and often a burn associated with the final product. A's kits produce a nice clear solution that is totally pain free. Perhaps it is the fillers or what not in the pellets that causes the infection since it is what also proportedly causes the burning injections.