Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below whats the deal with fina cough. I cough sometimes after i inject but for like that past 2 weeks im coughing all the time cant sleep. its like when i breath in through my mouth i have to cough. is this due to fina or is it that im getting a cold/cough. if its from the fina what do u do to get rid of it, i dont feel like im sick , just pain in the ass cough<--------sucks
fina cough???
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Johnny Cut
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i think it has to do with injection, are u aspirating?
I have been on tren for a few weeks now w/o any problems, the other night i may have passed through a vein, as i was injecting my heart started racing and started sweating then for about 20 mins after i was coughing my ass off.......never happened before
I have been on tren for a few weeks now w/o any problems, the other night i may have passed through a vein, as i was injecting my heart started racing and started sweating then for about 20 mins after i was coughing my ass off.......never happened before
MrRTTB
New member
Be carefull when you press the pin thru your skin. If you pass through a vein and then inject into the muscle some of the tren will go into the vein and a reaction like the one you had will occur. It is hard not to, but it has never ever happened to me, but then again I always inject with a 5/8 and just pressing the pin thru the skin/muscle takes something like 1 minute, I just fucking love it LOL. I always check for vacum and then inject very slowly. I never inject more than 1cc at the same spot and the injection takes about 1 minute, in other words very slowly..But I rather keep doing it like this than experiense the things you are.
I was getting it real bad - I would cough and itch like hell for 10 mins after I injected.
Try mixing the fina with something else - I noticed that when I switched from the Enanthate twice a week and Fina every day that I didn't get the cough as bad on the days I had Fina and Enanthate in the same pin. It also hasn't happened since I switched to Prop ED.
Try slowing down when you inject it. I started taking 40 seconds or more to inject the 1 1/2 cc of fina and prop and it has gone away.
Try mixing the fina with something else - I noticed that when I switched from the Enanthate twice a week and Fina every day that I didn't get the cough as bad on the days I had Fina and Enanthate in the same pin. It also hasn't happened since I switched to Prop ED.
Try slowing down when you inject it. I started taking 40 seconds or more to inject the 1 1/2 cc of fina and prop and it has gone away.
Trenimator76
New member
More risk getting the cough when site injectin. But you get none when go with the gluteus maximus.
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Animal
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Ask number 1
Solved this several years ago, but along with the 'new' discovery of some solution sellers/advisors telling people to use BB in high amounts which is a proven cough agent, we also have the same problem with BA.
The dreaded cough is from BA!
Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1527
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-04-11 00:32
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As I have said numerous times over the years, the BA in F kits can cause the same reaction as other kits and other commercial preparations with BA in them.
I suggest you do a search on google under benzyl alcohol and you will see 'Gasping syndrome in infants'. Read it as it sounds very familiar JUST LIKE I SAID!
And no, it never hurts to be right ALL THE TIME!
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Iron Addict
Joined: Jan 01, 2002
Posts: 163
From: Right Next Door to Hell
Posted: 2002-04-11 00:42
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There is truth to that......but.....something else is going on too. I use BA to make lots of things and even at the same ratios with other things the TENDENCY for the cough to occur is lower. I almost always "taste" a tren shot made with BA, but if I do another product made with BA even at the same ratio I seldom taste it. Why?
Iron Addict
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PowderMan
Joined: Dec 18, 2001
Posts: 137 Posted: 2002-04-11 01:48
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This is true regarding the BA as Animal has said as I have taken US Prescribed Test. Cyp and hit a vein and viola'...got that god for saken cough. So it's not just HIS kits. Regards. PM.
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juggernaut7
Joined: Mar 11, 2002
Posts: 18 Posted: 2002-04-11 10:09
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so ur cough is from that and not the sickness from ur kid Animal?im still curious on that beta glucan
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Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1527
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-04-11 10:23
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Juggy, the odd cough that people get from injecting hormones is from BA while my current cough and sore throat is due to cross infection from germ laden inmates.
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Iron Addict
Joined: Jan 01, 2002
Posts: 163
From: Right Next Door to Hell
Posted: 2002-04-11 10:26
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Did you get in trouble Animal?
Iron Addict
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Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1527
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-04-11 10:40
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No, I have a 9mos old and a 4.5 yr old inmate here at the funny farm whom I have to 'warden'.
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Iron Addict
Joined: Jan 01, 2002
Posts: 163
From: Right Next Door to Hell
Posted: 2002-04-11 11:23
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't have kids but have had more than a few girlfriends with kids and damn if they don't always have something.
Iron Addict
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dancer
Joined: Dec 04, 2001
Posts: 96 Posted: 2002-04-11 11:45
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Share the tape I sent you with the kids it will keep them occupied for a while
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growingpainz
Joined: Feb 23, 2002
Posts: 14
From: Florida
Posted: 2002-04-11 11:49
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I was injecting in my glute on monday night and started to cough uncontrollably...does that mean I hit a vein?....and I also coughed a little last night with my finna injection...not as bad but was coughing for a few minutes??....is that what you guys are talking about...thx
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sandhog
Joined: Jan 22, 2002
Posts: 49
From: Northeast
Posted: 2002-04-11 19:11
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Like Powdy, I too have gotten "the cough" from US Test Cyp right from the pharm...gotta be the BA.....
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popeye
Joined: Jan 15, 2002
Posts: 125
From: Southeast
Posted: 2002-04-11 21:04
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how deep do you guys inject? I keep hearing of the cough from everyone who pops the ass cheek, but not so much from those who do quads. Which is where I choose to use for most injections. I have started doing site in the biceps in hopes of stretching my muscles, make the fina less concentrated and you have to shoot 4X as much which would act like a temporary and less potent Synthol-like injection.
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jotun
Joined: Jan 31, 2002
Posts: 6 Posted: 2002-04-12 01:27
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Popeye, I use a 1.5", 23/25G needle for glute-injections. Not much problems since.
In the past though when I was starting out, I noticed that I'd get the mild cough and funny "alcohol/solvent-taste" in the mouth everytime I injected too shallowly, since it was quite a bitch to i/m inject yourself in the butt with the needle constantly shifting upwards.
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bwood8168
Joined: Mar 15, 2002
Posts: 16
From: midsouth
Posted: 2002-04-12 14:14
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It makes sense that respiration
would be one method that the body
uses to get rid of the stuff; much
like the exhalation of ketone by
product(acetone)
I wonder if its BA or a metabolite
that causes the coughing?
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Bob Wood
[ This Message was edited by: Animal on 2002-04-19 02:16 ]
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Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 5531
From: The darkest depths of Hell.
Posted: 2002-04-19 02:16
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or an allergen like the following as latex allergic people have the same type reaction!
topical irritation/allergy.
Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1516
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2001-12-31 12:52
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That I wrote this as it wasn't in last weeks paper.
Nevertheless, take some benadryl and I bet that will lesson the rash.
I think I've solved our little rash of allergic reactions to
certain injectable chemical solutions! Saturday, Dec 23. had an article in the paper: 'Government hasn't done suggested tests of platinum in gel implants' It was written by Greg Gordon of the Star Tribune Washington Bureau, but I couldn't get it to come up for an online ref. Anyhow, he discusses how platinum is in all those breast implants and THAT may be what is causing the problem women are having.
So what does this have to do with us? Platinum, it has been found is a potent allergen. You can DEVELOP the allergy to platinum much like the problem people can have with latex where you have no allergy to latex, but if you where latex gloves all day every day, you can develop sensitivity to the allergen (the latex) which can become severe enough to kill you. If you develop the allergy to a chemical, you are now sensitized to that allergen and subsequent reactions can be much more sever even with exposure to smaller amounts, much like with bee sting reactions. The symptoms can be 'asthma like breathing problems, hives, skin rashes, and joint pain.
DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?!!!!! Sure does to me and accusations would fly that it was something that may have been in a kit, but it looks like the truth has come to fore again. Not only does platinum have this affect, but so do OTHER METALS! Those would include nickel and silver to name a couple. In fact, I have allergies to nickel and silver and cannot and do not wear any jewelry or have any piercings or even wear a wedding ring because of this allergy which is more commone than people may think. Even 24 carat gold has some silver and nickel in them and the only thing those that are sensitized can wear is stainless steel.
That's a real nice story, so what? What is filler made of and how is it made and how is it processed and compressed? Guess what people?! The companies aren't using stainless steel machines in their production line because they have no need to like a human pharmaceutical company would! Somewhere along the line from raw products to finished pills or pellets, it is very easy for trace amounts of metal to get into the product and when a sensitized person or someone who has an allergy to metal then injects the allergen they get the allergic reaction for which symptoms are the famed:' I had trouble breathing after injection!'
Also note that the skin is going to be much more sensitive and we can look to people who develop latex allgergies from wearing latex gloves all day. You didn't hear about latex allergies years ago even when there was latex abound in syringes and people used those daily, but once AIDS came around and more people got to wearing gloves all day, you saw the latex allergies start. Skin is more sensitive and that's why some get the rash with DMSO and other don't! It ain't the DMSO as most who don't add anything to it can and do use if for years and years. Those putting stuff into the DMSO could have a mild allergy to what is most likely a metal dissolved in what they are putting in the DMSO.
Solved this several years ago, but along with the 'new' discovery of some solution sellers/advisors telling people to use BB in high amounts which is a proven cough agent, we also have the same problem with BA.
The dreaded cough is from BA!
Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1527
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-04-11 00:32
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As I have said numerous times over the years, the BA in F kits can cause the same reaction as other kits and other commercial preparations with BA in them.
I suggest you do a search on google under benzyl alcohol and you will see 'Gasping syndrome in infants'. Read it as it sounds very familiar JUST LIKE I SAID!
And no, it never hurts to be right ALL THE TIME!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Iron Addict
Joined: Jan 01, 2002
Posts: 163
From: Right Next Door to Hell
Posted: 2002-04-11 00:42
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There is truth to that......but.....something else is going on too. I use BA to make lots of things and even at the same ratios with other things the TENDENCY for the cough to occur is lower. I almost always "taste" a tren shot made with BA, but if I do another product made with BA even at the same ratio I seldom taste it. Why?
Iron Addict
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PowderMan
Joined: Dec 18, 2001
Posts: 137 Posted: 2002-04-11 01:48
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This is true regarding the BA as Animal has said as I have taken US Prescribed Test. Cyp and hit a vein and viola'...got that god for saken cough. So it's not just HIS kits. Regards. PM.
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juggernaut7
Joined: Mar 11, 2002
Posts: 18 Posted: 2002-04-11 10:09
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so ur cough is from that and not the sickness from ur kid Animal?im still curious on that beta glucan
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Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1527
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-04-11 10:23
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Juggy, the odd cough that people get from injecting hormones is from BA while my current cough and sore throat is due to cross infection from germ laden inmates.
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Iron Addict
Joined: Jan 01, 2002
Posts: 163
From: Right Next Door to Hell
Posted: 2002-04-11 10:26
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Did you get in trouble Animal?
Iron Addict
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Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1527
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2002-04-11 10:40
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No, I have a 9mos old and a 4.5 yr old inmate here at the funny farm whom I have to 'warden'.
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Iron Addict
Joined: Jan 01, 2002
Posts: 163
From: Right Next Door to Hell
Posted: 2002-04-11 11:23
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't have kids but have had more than a few girlfriends with kids and damn if they don't always have something.
Iron Addict
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dancer
Joined: Dec 04, 2001
Posts: 96 Posted: 2002-04-11 11:45
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Share the tape I sent you with the kids it will keep them occupied for a while
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growingpainz
Joined: Feb 23, 2002
Posts: 14
From: Florida
Posted: 2002-04-11 11:49
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I was injecting in my glute on monday night and started to cough uncontrollably...does that mean I hit a vein?....and I also coughed a little last night with my finna injection...not as bad but was coughing for a few minutes??....is that what you guys are talking about...thx
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sandhog
Joined: Jan 22, 2002
Posts: 49
From: Northeast
Posted: 2002-04-11 19:11
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Like Powdy, I too have gotten "the cough" from US Test Cyp right from the pharm...gotta be the BA.....
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popeye
Joined: Jan 15, 2002
Posts: 125
From: Southeast
Posted: 2002-04-11 21:04
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how deep do you guys inject? I keep hearing of the cough from everyone who pops the ass cheek, but not so much from those who do quads. Which is where I choose to use for most injections. I have started doing site in the biceps in hopes of stretching my muscles, make the fina less concentrated and you have to shoot 4X as much which would act like a temporary and less potent Synthol-like injection.
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jotun
Joined: Jan 31, 2002
Posts: 6 Posted: 2002-04-12 01:27
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Popeye, I use a 1.5", 23/25G needle for glute-injections. Not much problems since.
In the past though when I was starting out, I noticed that I'd get the mild cough and funny "alcohol/solvent-taste" in the mouth everytime I injected too shallowly, since it was quite a bitch to i/m inject yourself in the butt with the needle constantly shifting upwards.
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bwood8168
Joined: Mar 15, 2002
Posts: 16
From: midsouth
Posted: 2002-04-12 14:14
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It makes sense that respiration
would be one method that the body
uses to get rid of the stuff; much
like the exhalation of ketone by
product(acetone)
I wonder if its BA or a metabolite
that causes the coughing?
_________________
Bob Wood
[ This Message was edited by: Animal on 2002-04-19 02:16 ]
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Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 5531
From: The darkest depths of Hell.
Posted: 2002-04-19 02:16
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or an allergen like the following as latex allergic people have the same type reaction!
topical irritation/allergy.
Animal
Joined: Dec 03, 2001
Posts: 1516
From: Parts unknown
Posted: 2001-12-31 12:52
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That I wrote this as it wasn't in last weeks paper.
Nevertheless, take some benadryl and I bet that will lesson the rash.
I think I've solved our little rash of allergic reactions to
certain injectable chemical solutions! Saturday, Dec 23. had an article in the paper: 'Government hasn't done suggested tests of platinum in gel implants' It was written by Greg Gordon of the Star Tribune Washington Bureau, but I couldn't get it to come up for an online ref. Anyhow, he discusses how platinum is in all those breast implants and THAT may be what is causing the problem women are having.
So what does this have to do with us? Platinum, it has been found is a potent allergen. You can DEVELOP the allergy to platinum much like the problem people can have with latex where you have no allergy to latex, but if you where latex gloves all day every day, you can develop sensitivity to the allergen (the latex) which can become severe enough to kill you. If you develop the allergy to a chemical, you are now sensitized to that allergen and subsequent reactions can be much more sever even with exposure to smaller amounts, much like with bee sting reactions. The symptoms can be 'asthma like breathing problems, hives, skin rashes, and joint pain.
DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?!!!!! Sure does to me and accusations would fly that it was something that may have been in a kit, but it looks like the truth has come to fore again. Not only does platinum have this affect, but so do OTHER METALS! Those would include nickel and silver to name a couple. In fact, I have allergies to nickel and silver and cannot and do not wear any jewelry or have any piercings or even wear a wedding ring because of this allergy which is more commone than people may think. Even 24 carat gold has some silver and nickel in them and the only thing those that are sensitized can wear is stainless steel.
That's a real nice story, so what? What is filler made of and how is it made and how is it processed and compressed? Guess what people?! The companies aren't using stainless steel machines in their production line because they have no need to like a human pharmaceutical company would! Somewhere along the line from raw products to finished pills or pellets, it is very easy for trace amounts of metal to get into the product and when a sensitized person or someone who has an allergy to metal then injects the allergen they get the allergic reaction for which symptoms are the famed:' I had trouble breathing after injection!'
Also note that the skin is going to be much more sensitive and we can look to people who develop latex allgergies from wearing latex gloves all day. You didn't hear about latex allergies years ago even when there was latex abound in syringes and people used those daily, but once AIDS came around and more people got to wearing gloves all day, you saw the latex allergies start. Skin is more sensitive and that's why some get the rash with DMSO and other don't! It ain't the DMSO as most who don't add anything to it can and do use if for years and years. Those putting stuff into the DMSO could have a mild allergy to what is most likely a metal dissolved in what they are putting in the DMSO.
A
Animal
Guest
The answer wasn't plain enough
So people had to start two more threads on this!
Now tell me where to get dbol, winny, fina from a vet supply, and how to put them into the best cycle.
So people had to start two more threads on this!
Now tell me where to get dbol, winny, fina from a vet supply, and how to put them into the best cycle.
