Fina Conversion ???

[swordfish151]

Ok so im going to attempt to make my own fina (tren ace) i have read basskillers site and have informed myself on the process..my question is the following...or better yet..i dont understand the following :

CONVERSION MATHEMATICS
Each Finaplix cartridge contains 2000mg (or 2 grams) or trenbolone acetate, so you would need 2 cartridges for a “4g” kit conversion. The following recipe is intended for a 4g kit: 8ml BA, 42ml oil, and 4000mg (4 grams) of Finaplix pellets. This will yield an end product of 75mg/ml which is the standard conversion. Add your volumes of oil+pellets+BA and divide that number into 4000 for a 4gram kit conversion. 4grams of fina is approximately equal to 4mls.

8mlBA+4gTREN+42ml oil divided into 4000 = 74.07mg/ml.

Its stating (2) carts of finaplix for a 4g kit...is this equivalant to the fina farm kit? meaning will the 8ml BA, 42ml oil come with that kit? also it says that it will yeild 75mg/ml ....how many ml in the end though?

 

[swordfish151]

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[bighen58]

You have 8ml of BA + 42ml of oil = 50 ml of total liquid (this is the same as the FF 4g kit). 4000 mgs of fina/50 ml = approx. 80 mg/ml. Or in other words you'd have 50 shots (1 ml each) at 80 mgs each.

You will most likely end up with 47-48 ml of total liquid in the end because you'll lose some in the conversion. It is also likely that you would end up with less than 80 mg/ml if the fina does not completely dissolve (that may be how they end up with 75 mg/ml for the final product).

To get a little more out of the conversion I'd highly recommend using the coffee filter step that FF posts in their kit instructions on their website.

 

[swordfish151]

You have 8ml of BA + 42ml of oil = 50 ml of total liquid (this is the same as the FF 4g kit). 4000 mgs of fina/50 ml = approx. 80 mg/ml. Or in other words you'd have 50 shots (1 ml each) at 80 mgs each.

You will most likely end up with 47-48 ml of total liquid in the end because you'll lose some in the conversion. It is also likely that you would end up with less than 80 mg/ml if the fina does not completely dissolve (that may be how they end up with 75 mg/ml for the final product).

To get a little more out of the conversion I'd highly recommend using the coffee filter step that FF posts in their kit instructions on their website.

K to you my friend...thanks for the response..yes i was planning on doing the coffee filter step as well...on basskiller site the first method is with the coffee filter which i plan to do so....once the conversion is completed..all said and done...i've read about baking it? does this or should this be done..heard conflicting views...

 

[swordfish151]

One more question...fina farm or getpinz for the kit? experiences? which is better?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

One more question...fina farm or getpinz for the kit? experiences? which is better?

fina farm worked

 

[swordfish151]

yeah was going to go with them..saw that getpinz was cheaper...but not sure if the kits are identical or if one is missing stuff that the other has..

 

[bighen58]

I've used fina farm, worked great for me. Can't speak for getpinz.

As far as baking...I've done 4 conversions and only baked my stuff once and never had a problem with three times I didn't. The time I did bake it the plastic part of the needle melted which concerned me a bit (the temp was only 250 degrees).

If sterility is a concern you may want to use a .2 filter instead of a .45. It takes a little longer and you may need to buy an extra filter, but I've noticed the .2 comes out much clearer.

 

[swordfish151]

I've used fina farm, worked great for me. Can't speak for getpinz.

As far as baking...I've done 4 conversions and only baked my stuff once and never had a problem with three times I didn't. The time I did bake it the plastic part of the needle melted which concerned me a bit (the temp was only 250 degrees).

If sterility is a concern you may want to use a .2 filter instead of a .45. It takes a little longer and you may need to buy an extra filter, but I've noticed the .2 comes out much clearer.

Sounds good to me bro!!! i'll get the .2 instead and wont bake my first batch!

 

[Apexx]

I've used fina farm, worked great for me. Can't speak for getpinz.

As far as baking...I've done 4 conversions and only baked my stuff once and never had a problem with three times I didn't. The time I did bake it the plastic part of the needle melted which concerned me a bit (the temp was only 250 degrees).

If sterility is a concern you may want to use a .2 filter instead of a .45. It takes a little longer and you may need to buy an extra filter, but I've noticed the .2 comes out much clearer.

Just want everyone to be clear about this, the filter doesn't sterilize the solution, the BA does.

 

[swordfish151]

Just want everyone to be clear about this, the filter doesn't sterilize the solution, the BA does.

lol...yeah i got that part...so what would the filter be for then?

 

[bighen58]

Just want everyone to be clear about this, the filter doesn't sterilize the solution, the BA does.

I was under the impression that the BA was to dissolve the pellets, and the filters were to...well...filter the solution to make sure its sterile to inject. Is that not correct? Or does the BA serve a dual purpose?

 

[swordfish151]

I was under the impression that the BA was to dissolve the pellets, and the filters were to...well...filter the solution to make sure its sterile to inject. Is that not correct? Or does the BA serve a dual purpose?

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[Apexx]

I was under the impression that the BA was to dissolve the pellets, and the filters were to...well...filter the solution to make sure its sterile to inject. Is that not correct? Or does the BA serve a dual purpose?

The BA does both. The filter is only to filter out the larger particles. While this does help to keep from injecting those larger particles, it doesn't actually sterilize anything.

 

[rjl296]

a .2 micron filter is for sterilizing
ba inhibits bacterial growth

 

[foobar]

The filter is primarily for filtering out the cellulose, glue and miscellaneous binding agents that make up the non-steroid part of the pellets. It doesn't sterilize.

If you get cloudy fina, chances are you let the crushed pellets set in the BA/BB solution too long and the glue oxidized. Glue oxidation is also responsible for your fina turning darker (amber) when you bake it.

 

[DOMENIC-Chargeback]

Hi sword fish its domenic i am interested in conversion of my T-H trenblone acetate usp 200mg each catridge belt holds 20 doses of COMPONENT T-H each dose of 10 pellets contains a total of 200 mg of trenblone acetate USP COMPONENT so all together i have two 20 dose cartridge belt. i need your advice i will be solid to you.

Ok so im going to attempt to make my own fina (tren ace) i have read basskillers site and have informed myself on the process..my question is the following...or better yet..i dont understand the following :

CONVERSION MATHEMATICS
Each Finaplix cartridge contains 2000mg (or 2 grams) or trenbolone acetate, so you would need 2 cartridges for a “4g” kit conversion. The following recipe is intended for a 4g kit: 8ml BA, 42ml oil, and 4000mg (4 grams) of Finaplix pellets. This will yield an end product of 75mg/ml which is the standard conversion. Add your volumes of oil+pellets+BA and divide that number into 4000 for a 4gram kit conversion. 4grams of fina is approximately equal to 4mls.

8mlBA+4gTREN+42ml oil divided into 4000 = 74.07mg/ml.

Its stating (2) carts of finaplix for a 4g kit...is this equivalant to the fina farm kit? meaning will the 8ml BA, 42ml oil come with that kit? also it says that it will yeild 75mg/ml ....how many ml in the end though?

 

[swordfish151]

Hi sword fish its domenic i am interested in conversion of my T-H trenblone acetate usp 200mg each catridge belt holds 20 doses of COMPONENT T-H each dose of 10 pellets contains a total of 200 mg of trenblone acetate USP COMPONENT so all together i have two 20 dose cartridge belt. i need your advice i will be solid to you.

Would love to help bro, but i am also new to tren conversion..im the wrong person to ask about that as i am learning too..

 

[paridhm]

Hi sword fish its domenic i am interested in conversion of my T-H trenblone acetate usp 200mg each catridge belt holds 20 doses of COMPONENT T-H each dose of 10 pellets contains a total of 200 mg of trenblone acetate USP COMPONENT so all together i have two 20 dose cartridge belt. i need your advice i will be solid to you.

I'm guesing you have Component (sp) T-H. That is 4 grams of tren ace. Just get a 4 gram kit to convert your pills.

 

[Christianlifter]

You have 8ml of BA + 42ml of oil = 50 ml of total liquid (this is the same as the FF 4g kit). 4000 mgs of fina/50 ml = approx. 80 mg/ml. Or in other words you'd have 50 shots (1 ml each) at 80 mgs each.

You will most likely end up with 47-48 ml of total liquid in the end because you'll lose some in the conversion. It is also likely that you would end up with less than 80 mg/ml if the fina does not completely dissolve (that may be how they end up with 75 mg/ml for the final product).

To get a little more out of the conversion I'd highly recommend using the coffee filter step that FF posts in their kit instructions on their website.

I learned a nice little trick instead of the coffee folter that takes semmingly forever, use medical gauze folded in 4, works awesome and fast

God Bless

 

[DOMENIC-Chargeback]

Would love to help bro, but i am also new to tren conversion..im the wrong person to ask about that as i am learning too..

i found the way to convert it it was on georges chemical book i bought found it 10 minutes ago i could try to help you with all the info it is detailed i am just learing how do use a computer and i am 27

 

[swordfish151]

Does anyone know how long converted fina keeps for? what is the shelf live after i made my tren? do i keep it in my cabinet? what size pins for tren?

 

[ruggermu]

Does anyone know how long converted fina keeps for? what is the shelf live after i made my tren? do i keep it in my cabinet? what size pins for tren?

I don't know the shelf life and I just keep mine in my lock box. As far as pin size though, I put my homebrew through a slin pin a couple times but I usually use a 25g.

 

[bighen58]

Does anyone know how long converted fina keeps for? what is the shelf live after i made my tren? do i keep it in my cabinet? what size pins for tren?

I've used 25g with no problems (but I'd definately use 18 or 22 to suck it up). Not sure about expiration date...where'd you get your kit from, you might try sending them an e-mail. FF has always been good about answering my random questions.

 

[budtrend]

getpinz has great servive to